posted October 10, 2008 08:55 PM         

She was very much an anomaly. One minute she would be sweet and generous but literally the next minute she would moody, bitchy, manipulative and incredibly selfish. With her it was always "But MY feelings matter more!!!"

She also slept with many married men and came crying to me when all of those angry wives sought revenge. I went out of my way to protect her from harm and in the end she backstabbed me. She literally is the most manipulative, jealous and jealous person I have ever met. She truly is a sociopath.

In her chart, what do you think illustrates these horrible tendencies of her?

posted October 10, 2008 11:38 PM         

I've known quite a few people with Mars in the 8th house. The less evolved ones I've dealt with generally emotionally lash out at people and channel their poorly handled energy in manipulation and lies. With a Cancer moon, she probably hasn't learned how to control her emotions instead of letting them control her.

posted October 10, 2008 11:53 PM         

Anyway, my former friend had strict parents, but they were never abusive. They sheltered her from a lot. Her parents were only strict regarding grades and boys (no dating allowed until college). Other than that, they spoiled her and let her have anything she asked.

posted October 12, 2008 02:23 AM         

I bet the Gemini moon didn't help matters since it makes someone very quick-thinking, which can be dangerous if they choose to lie and manipulate. Scott Peterson is a perfect example of this.

I, too, am very sorry you had a friend like that. It's horrible when you find out that your friend really isn't a friend at all.

mblover,

Excellent answer. Mars in Libra loves married men? I've never heard of a specific Mars sign that was attracted to married men.

miss_muffet,

posted October 12, 2008 03:10 AM         

I'd laugh. I think it's obvious when someone is manipulating you intentionally, isn't it? If they don't know, it gets tricky to identify. If someone pulled those stunts with me, it wouldn't work so how can I expect it to work on people?

i found all those stories funny. Are these people serious. They get away with whispering threats at people? And who falls for such intimidation tactics? Maybe I think people are smarter than that. I usually know when someone's messing with me and sometimes it's just easier to let it go and just watch the show.

Cancer Moon, Virgo Sun.

posted October 12, 2008 11:10 AM         

And of course this process repeats forever.

posted October 12, 2008 08:37 PM         

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if the person won't do what i want, i will give them an evil glare and try to toy with their mind. I'll bring up mistakes from the past, lower my voice and whisper to them all the wrong things they have done in the past...right in their ear. i will ask them simple yes or no questions that will make them over think themselves.

i may also try lowering their self esteem, but this extreme tactic is only used with my enemies. i will laugh at any insult they throw back at me and just say very deep things that will give them painful flash backs of their mistakes.

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this is exactly what my ex-friend did. not so much the whispering part but she woould say those things when it's just the two of us so noone can hear and i will have no witnesses. then she goes about her business like she's all sweet again. so everyone thinks she's super nice and i that i was out of my mind.

posted October 12, 2008 09:22 PM         

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I bet the Gemini moon didn't help matters since it makes someone very quick-thinking, which can be dangerous if they choose to lie and manipulate. Scott Peterson is a perfect example of this

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She had a very smooth finish. Her outside did not reflect her inside, and she can project supreme positivity and friendliness. You're right about her moon, I just assumed it was part of her character to be able to switch easily. It was horrible to find it out, but very liberating. Just think, who'd ever get so close to a sociopath to know them so intimately? What I can say from the experience is I know now how her mind works, and never will it be repeated again from her, I will never allow it.

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I'd laugh. I think it's obvious when someone is manipulating you intentionally, isn't it? If they don't know, it gets tricky to identify. If someone pulled those stunts with me, it wouldn't work so how can I expect it to work on people?

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Thing is you don't know that they are. They do it so very well. She left a few clues though, one is in the eyes. Her eyes could even twinkle with genuine mirth, but I caught glimpses of the evil gleam before, but it lasts usually 5 seconds.
Another clue would be refusal to seek professional help. Psychologists, psychiatrists and doctors - she shunned them all. One would think she was afraid to be found out.
She would also watch dramas all day, trying to learn acting skills.
And she'd usually insist on her way, never feeling sorry about being late. Basically, she perfected the art of manipulation so well, that a normal person would fumble because they'd feel so guilty.