posted October 20, 2008 06:28 PM         

He says he has been feeling very very lonely and specially misunderstood and left aside - specifically by his family and friends ( who btw arent that many )

Please help me analysing of the "Whyīs" of his depressive state and maybe, by revealling in detail to him the transits i can help him on understanding better this "phase"...

From what i can see:

- Moon is passing his 12H,maybe it shows that his emotions are somewhat being put to proof?beliefs?

- the major of concerns are problems about being loved and feeling cared by his family:i thought i would see sth happening in his 4H but i only see mars there cj jup and sun cj pluto...

-lilith is passing house of fun and romance ain in the issues the house affects?

- Nessus is all about pain also isnt it?i see it cj his vesta,so maybe his vows/beliefs are being hit righ now in a painful way?

- also he has Tr Kiron cj his Moon:involves sufeering in the emotional department..and uranus is also hitting the moon

What can you tell me to help him pass all the transits he his having?

What do you see here regarding how the way his family are treating him?

posted October 20, 2008 06:35 PM         

I can see that stellium passing his 4H:is it bad or good?sun and venus there would seem to be benefic...

negatively i see his ASC being hit by a square from:

sun/venus/Saturn/pluto - is this the reason of his feelings?

posted October 20, 2008 06:42 PM         

i know the axis are important in this type of chart:

i see ASC here passing through his 4H:it is cj his staurn so it might indicate repression and prisionment in the home and family area isnt it?

Dont know what else to look for..

posted October 29, 2008 05:08 PM         

t.neptune is applying by retro. to his natal moon ..
neptune has been close there since 2005 ..
( but it doesn't go back to 17 deg .. nearest it gets is 19 deg ..)

t.jupiter has been squaring his midheaven by the looks of it ..

t.chiron will hit once again on his moon in december by direct motion ..
then it's done aspecting his moon for now ..
( mid 2009 till end 2010 is when t.chiron will .. on and off .. square his natal chiron )

and at the moment t.saturn is forming an exact 'quine' ( minor ) aspect to his natal moon ..
.. that aspect will be out-of-orb by this months end ..
however it will re-aspect via retrograde at some point next year ..
( saturn gets to 21 deg , virgo .. then goes retro on the 31st of december )

from his chart point of view.. it's probably a combination of t.chiron and t.saturn to his moon ..

** when the moon tranverses his 12th .. and his 6th ..
he will have about two days worth of square aspects from t.moon to those placements in 3rd and 4th houses ..
( and via the top chart date .. be those short term transits of mars to n.jupiter .. venus to n.neptune
( oct.29th .. both of those have now passed 'exact' .. )

here's a saturn in 4th house interp.
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/sat.cancer.html ~
difficult house for saturn .. although on the plus side he has saturn in libra ( i.e exalted )

btw: that second chart looked more like progressions than transits ..
i.e the green outer symbols ..

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** cancer ascendant .. chart ruler .. the Moon ..
hence he might want to take note of his moon transits ..
and today ( 29th ) it conjoins his natal jupiter and then squares his natal moon
( actually it's squaring his moon now .. 08.17 pm gmt )

** and uranus is also hitting the moon **
a 30 degree aspect ???

** What can you tell me to help him pass all the transits he his having?**
i'd first try and show him how some transits effect him ..
figure a way to point out a transit in action ..
e.g. a harsh mars transit .. but .. a couple of days after the transit ..
or any short term transit that could see him in an agressive mood ..
( cancer ascendants are supposed to come across as moody .. up one day .. down the next .. )
( copy the astro.com text.. from the day to day transit readouts .. to show him )
a day or so after .. so there's no chance of pre-suggestion ..
keep doing that till the 'penny drops' and he starts to note the correlation between transits and his moods ..
then start to explain the 'outer planets' by transit ..
have him look at some charts for when he was going thru 'something big' ..
an outer transit to a personal planet will probably show up ..
( or visa versa .. pick out a time when he had some heavy weight aspect a personal planet ..
( then ask him what he might have gone thru ..

maybe .. when t.chiron re-aspects his moon exactly ..
and he gets some 'trigger' transit from the moon/venus/mars ..
he sure to feel it ..

sooner or later .. he might start to explore astrology in connection with himself ..
and be able to figure it out ..

posted October 29, 2008 07:22 PM         

Happy Dragon

as always you are great with helping with transits!

the 2nd chart was of solar return btw.

i know what it feels when T.Nweptune hits our Moon,im also having that so..by that perspective i definately know what he feels..

yes,the MC area is also being at a low stage.SInce some time now that he doenst feel motivated ( its a question of the persons with whom he works with..).

you are definately right at the Moon part: by being his asc ruler,its passing some tought hard transits and i have been helping him not to feel such "unloved" cause he is my most cherished person in my world.

i have already through about it:to show to him how planets are affecting him.Once he has having a particular transit and he couldnt quite figure it out why he was feeling sth unexplicable and some situations that had appeared to him?So i showed him some of his transits very carefully.With details and all..he was very surprised and said" but that is exactly what i am passing through,and what i am feeling!"

So if i show him now he wont be that ceptical i think - and yes..itīs better to show him when the exact aspects pass or else he would be somehow "suggested" by what i would have said.

Thanks a lot!

posted November 15, 2008 06:01 PM         

regarding his past 'heavy' transits ..
begining of 2006 'till end 2007 was his 'Pluto square to natal Venus' transit ..

at the moment transiting Pluto squares a point mid-way between his Sun and Venus ..
so maybe that could have him somewhat 'emotional ' at times ..
and .. i guess maybe a good idea to research Pluto transists ..
as .. he has 16 years ahead of Pluto squaring his Libran placements ..

t.Pluto triggered deep feelings ( passion ) could give him a hard time of sorts ..
i.e. being an Air element sign .. plus his Moon being in an Air sign as well ..
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/air.elmnt.html ~

and at sometime it will conjoin his natal Lillith and oppose his natal N.Node
( N.Node in Cancer .. more 'family' inferences i guess .. although i've not read up on that )
~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007993.html ~

btw: natal Pluto seems to be fairly close to squaring his Ascendant ..
i.e. how does he come accross to other people .. he might want to take note of that ..
'cause he might not be aware of it ..
Pluto can easily alienate 'others' as it can come accross as a sort of 'power trip' ..
others could feel it as some sort of 'threat' ..

posted November 15, 2008 06:11 PM         

t Venus cj. his Uranus - his "Uranian" traits get a boost from the Universe - he craves a personal change in a way - probably wanting a more adventurous way of expressing himself (5th house) - might feel curbed in his fun/romantic matters - t Venus helps him to acknowledge his own "rebellious" traits, these days. (Not said, that he'll be able to "free" himself though...)

Also Sun was just running over his Pluto ... again: a strong tendency for living his "own" way, these days. Since Pluto is in his 4th ... some family matters might indeed be involved.

posted November 15, 2008 07:12 PM         

Didnīt forgot about me ...you are so kind!

Haapy dragon

you know what?i did what you said:i revealed to him all the transits he was having and he totally identified with those. Now if some day he is feeling sth which he cant explain racionaly he comes to me asking my help

your article on saturn in the 4H..quite astonishing really...seems so much of what he passed...
now itīs me who is having the pluto wquare venus hihi
i think he could very well be aproaching torwards a new job or a transformation in his professional area - he feels stressed out in all areas there..

Alvarella

i get it dont worry!
He has been keeping me ocupied on doing sth diferent and adventurous - and the net weekend we are gonna spend it in the Mountains for him to see snow for the 1st time hihi - he seems a little child countinh the days to his HAPPY DAY!

And yup..he has been having those family problems specially by diferences in thoughts/behaviours.