posted October 22, 2008 11:21 AM         

This year has really been very hard from start to finish and it is apparently getting worse, I seem to be going continuously backwards, whilst at the same time pulling out the stops more than ever. I have had to fight my corner on everything, and I can't seem to get off the ground properly with anything. People have criticized my work right left and centre (a business partner, who was meant to be supportive, making wonderful promises, but in reality not doing their share of the work, and even saying on one occasion they hated my work), I have had problems with my accommodation (one landlord groping me, the other unable to provide reliable electricity), love (the person I was dating turned out to have a violent past), education (the lecturers on the course were frauds that never turned up or taught us anything - I got a refund), publishing (several harangues with the publishers over the books I was writing, as they employed new staff whose standard of work was questionable), and the only people that seem to be truly supportive in a practical sense (for almost the first time in their lives) are my family. I remember the last transit of Jupiter in Capricorn was awful for me, so maybe that's what it is. I feel cynical and as though I can't trust anyone any more. I don't know what on earth I'm doing wrong. I'm trying my best but I am tempted to just say "to hell with everybody" and do my own thing. All I want is a bit of peace.

Has anyone else been through a Pluto-Pluto square, because I'm not particularly optimistic at the implications for my mental health?

posted October 22, 2008 11:53 AM         

I got dumped when transiting Pluto in Capricorn in 4th was squaring my Pluto in Libra in 1st on April 2, 2008. I am still having problems letting getting over it,missing my exgirlfriend terribly....especially I having Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio as well as Moon quincunx Pluto and Sun contraparallel Pluto....so much intensity that hard for me to let go.

here is what solar fire interprets for Pluto square Pluto

This is one of life's challenging transits during which you are forced to reassess your past and discard any outmoded patterns which have been standing in your way. It is sometimes said to be one of the mid-life crises during which you are motivated to clear out old deeply-entrenched patterns and habits. It is a time to re-evaluate your deepest motivations and feelings. You may become more wilful, driven by deeper urges to make your life conform to your innermost desires and ambitions. You are forced out of any ruts. Pluto's energy can sometimes be ruthless and so you may feel some pain in the process of letting go and stepping out of your comfort zone. However, the process is regenerating and you will feel better able to tackle the rest of your life with the renewed vigour that comes from a lighter load. This is particularly true if you can ensure that your willpower is aligned with integrity and true spiritual purpose rather than personal, selfish desires.

posted October 22, 2008 12:16 PM         

I am moving into this transit soon myself and I have been dreading it. The past few years have been awful for me as well, too painful to go into but in short, I am alone, friendless and until recently jobless.

Glaucus gave a really nice post about this transit and I would add that you need to look at the houses that you have transiting and natal pluto in. For my my natal is my 7th and transiting is 10th. So someone very kindly described my lesson as learning to come into my own natural authority (from my 10th house of career and how oy uare seen in the world) with people I interact with (7th house of partners marriage and enemies).

Sigh, I don't imagine it to be easy but fingers crossed we make it through.

posted October 22, 2008 03:57 PM         

I was divorced 3 years ago from a husband who played computer games all day and was also violent. I came to London thinking it would give me better opportunities on the work front, but basically everybody is scrabbling for whatever crumbs of jobs there are to go around, and despite the fact that I have a lot to offer, no-one has employed me (3rd failed interview today!). They expect you to start at the very bottom and be grateful for whatever mean morsels they decide to throw you. I used to be in gardening and teaching, but I feel that because I couldn't get into any of these areas due to the competition and because the culture of London is so selfish I have been denied the opportunity to "give" of myself, if you know what I mean - even though it's in my nature and I want to.

Technically I'm self-employed and I am finding it difficult to make ends meet and, like you, Lisa, to find a job, and I don't really know what to do other than go back to my parents' (the offer is there). I can find plenty to do with my time, it's not like I laze around all day, I am highly self-motivated, have taught myself several computer packages for example, but it seems like nobody wants what I have to offer - although this has been a recurring theme through much of my life. I seem to be constantly striving to impress or please other people, and it never seems to be enough, and I get terribly hurt when this happens.

I'm pretty impatient at the system because, the way modern life is, it doesn't really allow for growth in the true sense. I look at every profession and can see the pitfalls - I think, do I really want to be spouting someone else's rubbish? A lot of people have been surprised when I say I am looking for a job, as they figure I am better being self-employed than employed by someone else. But that doesn't help my financial situation!

I seem to have been delving into mystical stuff a lot recently, and devouring books (in the real sense) since Saturn moved into Virgo last year. I feel strongly that I am entering a different phase of my life and that this spiritual material somehow holds the key. I don't know whether the best idea is to pursue what I love the most and what I have a passion for, whether it brings me any money or not - and whether the money will follow suit, because of my enjoyment in what I do. Most of all I don't want to live life on a shallow level and do things because they sound good, or because I think they might please other people or the external world. I think the people-pleasing is something I need to get over and perhaps something that is standing in my way. I don't have any Fixed signs in my chart (mostly Mutable, with a Mut. Grand Cross), so this could be something that is holding me back and preventing me from expressing my energy to the fullest.

Love,