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AceNeerav
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posted October 22, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AceNeerav     Edit/Delete Message
its finally coming to an end. after 13 long years pluto is exiting sag forever. it wont return back for atleast as long as we are alive. and being a sag i know how much i have seen life in these 13 years. how much i have changed. how much my destiny has changed. and how many downs i went though, and am going though, to finally get there up where i want to belong.

pluto challenged everything we saggies had. even our hope. and its hope that has kept us going. i hoped that things will be better after jupiter enters sag. a few good things did happen but nothing significant. i hoped when pluto conjucts my natal as well as then transiting jupiter in sag something huge will happen. i didnt notice anything significant. things have been pretty much stalemate. i wanted to be seperated from my parents, live on my own, start earning and have a girl friend. and today i am 25 and nothing such has happened. infact i was counting on the last 2 years i have in engineering only to see my self fail!

now my only hope is pluto's exit out of sag on nov 27. i have been banking on pluto a lot. i have associated my misery to pluto in sag. now if things dont change i dont see my self avoiding a nervous breakdown or worse. sometimes i fear that i dont get a stroke. already i am high on blood sugar, LDL cholesterol and blood pressure.

my struggle against my parent's attitude, behaviour and selfishness hasnt changed them a bit. they saw me breaking down many times, leaving studies on and off for like 6 times, getting back behind my generation by 7 years. and they havent changed a wee bit. they are completely reluctant to accept any responsibility or any role in my defeat as a academic student, a youth or as an individual.

pluto cut though 6 of my major natal planets. sun, moon, jupiter, uranus, neptune and south node all in sagittarius. hopefully one can imagine the kind of mental stress that could be.

in the last few years (age 17 to 25) i became 125 kilos from 75 .
i took up to and left college 5 times and have taken it up again only to fail!
i took on to 3 jobs only to leave it.
my outlook towards life completely changed
i started speaking the language of the defeated, and that too in the tone of a loser.
i had countless fights with my parents, some physical, only to see them become more and more difficult towards me.
i even tried have a conversation with them but each they they talked me out of it.
i felt so terribly vulnerable that sometimes i wanted to cry and the stress was such that i couldn't even cry. i would just remain expressionless.

there had been spells of good mood and stability in between. but my parents, specifically my mom would start her ego dramas each time and things would deteriorate again.

now pluto is going to go bang on my mercury in cap. i dont know how long that would last. its at 0deg 28 mins in cap. i already feel mental unrest. i get angry with things that dont pertain me. like how a local politician rants about north indian's in mumbai or america's war on iraq or about my friend's mom consistently insisting on my friend for arranged marriage. stupid things simply carry me off. i am angry even when i am riding my bike to college or classes! some of u must have noticed how i made a thread against bush in global unity forum. i spoke of how iraq was never america's business not realizing that america's business is not my business!!

i dont want to miss any chance these last 4 weeks has to offer me. i know pluto has two sides (good and bad) just like any other planet. and i dont want to give up as yet. else pluto will give up on me and i will be miserable forever. can someone tell me what i should look for? someone who can see my personal chart and give me some insight.

also please through some light on what pluto in cap holds for saggies and what pluto conjuct mercury will hold in store for me?

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aqua/scorp
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posted October 22, 2008 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua/scorp     Edit/Delete Message
oh but i want to keep my T Pluto trine my N ASC... Pluto in Cappy! hmm big changes...

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 22, 2008 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Jeez, I don't know if this is good or not.
I have had transiting Pluto squaring my sun for some time now...so it has not been fun. Oh, it was moving through the 8th house too....AAAGGHHH!! It's almost outta there, so I am happy...however, I am wondering what the heck it's going to do next....kinda scared.
Hopefully something really good for my love life at least

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funnyface
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posted October 22, 2008 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for funnyface     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto in Sag meant a lot of things to me, some good some bad. I enrolled for a doctorate program in 1995, when pluto was just beginning its journey. my sun is 29 degrees 24 scorp and neptune 1 degree sag. So the beginning was good.
I did complete my degree and get a great job when pluto was conjunct my jupiter at 13 sag.
I moved to another country when Pluto was about 3 degrees away from my venus and merc, both at 21 degrees Sag.
I got my heart brutally broken when Pluto was exactly conj my venus.
I learnt about the dishonesty of my previous bosses and had to decide whether to continue or leave when Pluto was conjunct my MC at 26 degree Sag. Sort of a moral dilemma.
Now when retro Pluto was at 2 degrees from my MC I learnt that my dad has prostate cancer.
With Pluto turning direct but still 2 degrees from my MC, the sliver of good news that I hope is an old flame is trying to establish contact. He is someone I have never been able to fall out of love.
Guess it has been a roller coaster ride. I have had a lot of good times and some very terrible ones.
C'est la vie.

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wheelsofcheese
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posted October 22, 2008 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto's nearly conjunct my NN in Cap. I felt it coming and I think it helped. Sort of a feeling that if I didnt get out of a bad situation soon then it would never happen. I like Pluto.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 22, 2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Wheels, I've got NN in Cappy too...and so's my Midheaven. I'm hoping this transition is going to help a little.

I just realized something interesting though about the Pluto thing. 13 years it's been in Sagittarius? That's interesting to me because 13 years ago was when I left San Francisco / the Bay Area, an area I really loved, and where I am NOW looking to move back to, in order to kind of start anew with the projects I always wanted to start when I was initially there (I was too young and always wished I was older when I was there, so I would be able to choose what I wanted to do with more confidence).
It's been 13 years of hunting and gathering, studying, and getting more life experience.

Interesting. I wonder if it really does tie in to the Pluto transition into Cappy.

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Jan_A
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posted October 22, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jan_A     Edit/Delete Message
Hi!
I'm very glad, that Pluto will leave Saggitarius soon, because it will be a relief not only for Saggitarius, but also for Gemini, Virgo and Pisces. Currently Pluto is still in square to my Virgo Ascendant and that's tough.
Last 4 weeks ? Let it fade away!

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AceNeerav
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posted October 23, 2008 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AceNeerav     Edit/Delete Message
i have a virgo ascendant too. and it was square my asc when it was around 19 degrees in sag.

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belgz
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posted October 23, 2008 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
OH I KNOWWWWW!!! im another virgo rising and i just got off the phone to my astrologer and i kept on thanking god pluto has decided to progress out of SAG. It was the worst time for me not literally just more psychologically. Negative things will happen with or without pluto, or maybe ive just forgotten the bad stuff cause im so excited about it going away LOL

Pluto is on my IC right now and i feel good though, and i know good things are going to happen from this moment onwards. It will oppose all my cancer planets soon.. LOL

I want to think positive, its all over people

****HUGSS****

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Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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deuxantares
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posted October 23, 2008 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
I just want him to leave my natal Venus (square) alone and get his dark butt off my 7th house. 20 years per house!

*grumble*

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blue moon
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posted October 23, 2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Swap?

He's in my 2nd.

It's always about the

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deuxantares
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posted October 23, 2008 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
Yes! I'm not high-maintenance. I can live like a semi-monk, really.

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Azalaksh
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posted October 23, 2008 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Ace ~
I'm sorry to hear you've been going thru such a rough time

deux ~
My nVenus is at 2 Libra -- need I say more??

wheels & MyVirgoMask (deux's already been there ) ~
Fellow Goat-Noders!!!
There's a big 'ol thread just for you (on our Nodal locale) at:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007999-2.html

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 23, 2008 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Azalaksh !!!

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enchantress299
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posted October 23, 2008 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
Oddly... I feel like Pluto did more good for me than bad, despite the fact that 6 of my planets are in mutable signs.

It started off horribly enough. I was 12 or 13 and it was transiting through my 1st house; needless to say, Jr. High and High school were terrible for me. When I was young, I was shy, introverted and underestimated myself greatly.

However, in the years since then I feel like I've developed a strong sense of self and have really become the person that I want to be. In fact, I'm pretty much the exact opposite of how I used to be: I'm extroverted, fun, and appreciative of my own gifts. So, at the end of the day, while it did create a lot of insecurities, it also helped me transform my personality into something great.

Now it's off into the 2nd house. That one I'm not looking forward to so much, however, I'm glad that it will at least be trining my Venus/MC/Sun and sextiling my Pluto/Saturn going in...

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 23, 2008 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I can't figure where it's going next for me. Is it the same for all Virgos? Transit shows 9th house in my chart though...have no idea.

Enchantress, you're a Virgo/Aries moon like me, btw, though I'm Taurus rising

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Lana29865
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posted October 24, 2008 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lana29865     Edit/Delete Message
For some reason Pluto is my favorite planet.
I'm in awe of it :-)
I have it natally in my 2nd house with no aspects to personal planets.

Transiting Pluto is now in conjunction with my Vertex (5th house). It'll be interesting to see the effect it will have in Cappy, as it will suit my Virgo Sun much better.

I love Pluto :-)

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Jupiter
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posted October 24, 2008 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jupiter     Edit/Delete Message
It's funny because Pluto in Sag (me being a Sag) really helped me. It was under this transit that somehow a divine hand led me to the right doctor that would diagnose me with Bipolar disorder. It took me from where I was Hell and it healed me. Pluto does fall in my sixth house (the house of health). It reconnected me with my brothers who I never met up until now. It also reconnected me to a whole other side of my family I had never met before. It brought me back to the child hood home I lived in when I was four before it was torn down. More than anything it brought me back to myself and made me strong enough to live my destiny. With out this transit I would not have been able to move foward. It's been dark and light just like a true rebirth. I am thankful for everything Pluto has done for me. It has crystalized me into a new me who is ready to begin her new journey whole, healthy, open, and strong!!!! Before Pluto touched Sag I was not any of these things. Now I am!!!!!

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posted October 24, 2008 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
It's stiiiiillllllllllll conjunct my ASC! It's been a very tough time, but things are starting to shift... I've been doing a lot of work on myself, especially since Pluto went direct again, and it's like there's a light at the end of the tunnel. What a relief!

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AceNeerav
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posted October 24, 2008 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AceNeerav     Edit/Delete Message
one of my sag friends also made it big during pluto transit. it seems that during this transit pluto demands that we put a brave front and confront with what life has to show. if we try to go through a shortcut to avoid pain, merry hell awaits us.

my friend completed his engineering from mumbai university and was not able to get a job. my neighbor had a small IT firm. he joined his firm and my neighbor exploited him a lot. his first pay check was only Rs.2990/- which is like $60. and this is for the entire month. but he told no one about his pain. he kept on working and learning things until 11 months later he got an offer from another company in pune which offered him a cool Rs.30000 ($600) a month. ever since it has been an upward spiral for him. he worked hard over here, developing software, learning every detail that came along his way. he would work later till 1 am. finally now he works with nokia india. he fetches more than Rs.120000 a month! thats $2400 in a month! he has been abroad 4 times on company expense.

in contrast when life gave me a chance to live alone in panvel and complete my engineering i complained about the food, the loneliness, the college and everything and eventually quit studying there. ever since, for me its been a downward spiral.

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enchantress299
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posted October 25, 2008 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
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I can't figure where it's going next for me. Is it the same for all Virgos? Transit shows 9th house in my chart though...have no idea.

The sign it goes through will be the same for everyone. You have to look at your individual chart to see which house it goes through to see how it will apply to you. The 9th has to do with long distance travel, religion, spirituality, and higher education. Make of that what you will.

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Enchantress, you're a Virgo/Aries moon like me, btw, though I'm Taurus rising

Then you understand the pain of being a Virgo Sun with an Aries Moon... Which am I supposed to be? Sensible or crazy?

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