posted October 31, 2008 04:26 PM           

They even go to the point of saying that we shouldnt marry in that period ( which endures about 7 years i think) cause that way the marriage wont last..

i thought about many times about when i would advance into that kind of committment - i already firmly stated to myself not to advance before my 1st Saturn Return.

But now i found that Tr Uranus will pass my own 7H right after it,and will end up only when iīd be 35

Is it such a high risk to marry when that transit is on?

What do you think are the real effects when Uranus passed your own 7H?

posted October 31, 2008 04:44 PM           

Peri

yes itīs true and much more rational than what i stated before

as with every transit,it can has effect to the extremes isnt it?

i just now found a sample of what the Tr Uranus in 7H can bring:

"This is the house of relationships and contrary to popular fear, doesn't have to spell the end of your existing relationship but rather invokes the deep desire for change. Many people with Uranus crossing their seventh house recognize that the old way of relating is just not challenging enough or that they have built a wall around their life and the life of their partner (Partner in this context can mean both Professional Partners and romantic ones). Uranus insists that this contract be looked at changed for the health of everyone involved. Usually, there is an infusion of excitement brought to the center of the relationship. Where we once feared losing the relationship, we can now accept that change is good and that the old agreements need a face lift. Usually, if dramatic changes are made in the relationship, it's because of problems that were always lying beneath the surface. But the contrary is true as well. If you are in a relationship that has always felt superficial and unable to provide you the depth that you need, this transit may wake up the passions lying beneath the surface of your conscious mind. Many people report re-falling in love with their partner during this transit although an equal number report the dissolution of the current agreement. Expect new and unusual people to walk through your door allowing you to establish partnerships that exist outside the normal box standards".

Itīs interesting what you said cause my lover,i met him through the internet.It has been 2 years now.
He might be called an uranian guy:sun/ven sextile uranus.Uranus trines his ASC.

posted November 01, 2008 01:12 AM         

I already feel an exciting and different time coming up. Now i realised that those quiet tauruses are not what i should be after. I was always scared of those outgoing guys because i figured they would never settle and are more likely to cheat and be impulsive.
WAS I WRONG ABOUT THE QUIET ONES!

Now i have been out EVERYDAY for the last 1 week. Im determined to change everything, im no longer going to go for stable people because theyre too dumb enough to know whether to marry or not and are too detailed and long heavy thinkers.

Im here once in this lifetime and i wanna make the most of it, i dont care what happens anymore with relationships they all come and go anyway its pointless tryna hang on. All my life i wanted to be stable and settle down, get married and have kids.

I locked myself in my house and i think its bringing me freedom and a good change.

If you have transit uranusin 7th or coming up that means you will have jupiter in 5th next month as well like meeeee )

I say were gonna have a great time and who cares where or when it ends as long as i enjoy myself.

Jupiter will bring us a new love relationship too maybe and one thats usually positive. Even without this uranus trnasit its not like out relationships were the best before it. Its bound to bring excitement..........

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 01, 2008 01:36 AM         

I am looking forward to exciting relationships,and romance

Uranus in 7th also fits with interracial relationships,marriage which I am into.
yeah...it fits with online
heck...could meet partners through Astrology. You could meet partner in unexpected ways or through something exciting or all of them.
could be surprises in relationships overall. I will be looking forward to when transiting Uranus in 7th trines my Venus in Scorpio in 3rd.

I wouldn't let Uranus in 7th keep me from being married. heh

The women that I am attracted tend to be Uranian types. In my chart,I have an unaspected Uranus in Libra in 2nd which is a strong Venus-Uranus influence(Uranus in sign ruled by Venus and house ruled by Venus). I think my Moon in Pisces conjunct Mars in Aquarius also might have something to do with it.

posted November 01, 2008 01:55 AM         

I honestly think its gonna bring exciting relationships.

And we will probably lose weight and look better too because it will oppose our ascendant

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 01, 2008 02:38 AM         

Diandra, what's on your 7th natally?

Generally, Uranus on the 7th IS an exciting time...a lot of your old beliefs about relationships are challenged and all kinds of sudden developments occur. You could meet and connect and then go separate ways with many people....and all of them feel amazing and wonderful, and different from anything you've ever experienced...because they are different, and so are you

posted November 01, 2008 10:30 AM           

yes,change..as a virgo sun and taurus moon,Change is one of those things that terrify me if i dont know what is comimg,specially concerning love.

Uranus is passing my 6th and i can say that its making me very confused about work issues - im on an impasse right now ( and my 6th is ruled by Uranus).

BELGZ

im glad youre feeling such excited - you are very strong on taking things by that perspective after the break up and the miscarriage. I hope you find what you are looking for

yes,soon jup will be passing my 5th, it could bring more fun and creativenness ( i would love to see me suceeding in my vocation).But concerning relationships,i still wanna have a stable one,marry and have kids - that is why uranus gives me chills.i always tend to think that if he passes the 7h then everything i have can fall apart. ( oddly,i never thought it could bring a sudden marriage for example..)

GLAUCUS

you also had a recent break up wasnt it?

so,uranus in 7h made that sudden change and as yo are having jup in 5th maybe it will bring you a positive relationship.

as for me,when TR Uranus enters my 7h:

-Tr Pluto will be enter my IC
- Tr juno/NN will cj Jup/Uranus
- Tr jup will be at 8th
- Tr karma cj kiron

and still i will be passing the saturn return..

MyVirgoMask

well i dont have any planet on my 7h.it is in Aries,and mars is in my 11h in Leo.

i only have in my 7H the Vertex,which trines Valentine and karma.

posted November 01, 2008 11:46 AM         

I also had transiting Saturn square my 7th house ruler Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd during the breakup. Actually transiting Saturn in Virgo was in my 12th house in a grand cross transit to my t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. Transiting Pluto in 4th was stationary and squaring my Pluto in Libra in 1st at the time. Transiting Pluto was exactly conjunct my Venus/Node midpoint to the very minute at the time too.

I also had a long trend of Moon oppose Saturn in lunar returns from before my start of my Solar Return period last year to lunar return period starting August 17th of this year. I had Moon oppose Saturn for many lunar returns,and that indicate difficulties with women.

My exgirlfriend has a feminist mother who hates men and doesn't want her daughters(my exgirlfriend and me) being with men. My exgirlfriend told me this. She is very close to her mother and has strong obligations to be there for her. It's very complicated.

also..I also felt that the presidential democrat primaries between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama brought out some racial tension between her and me. my girlfriend is a white woman like Hillary,and I am the son of a black man and white woman like Barack. I wonder how the presidential race has affected other interracial relationships. I believe that it had affected mine.

She and I were in a long distance relationship, but we had plans on being physically together..especially after I went to see her a couple of times. But there were some barriers,delays that made that complicated.
Her grandmother died. She and her mother relocated to where her grandmother was living.

so many factors....even the chart of the other person as well as even charts of family members
synastry and composites too

In our composite chart, there is a Venus in Aqaurius in 8th/9th oppose Saturn in Leo in 2nd/3rd. It turns out that her mom's Lunar Nodal axis is on our composite Venus-Saturn opposition with her North Lunar Node conjunct our composite Venus and her South Lunar conjunct our composite Saturn. Talk about a karmic connection between my relationship with my ex and her mother! Our composite Moon is in Capricorn in 7th,and it's unaspected to planets. That can indicate mother issues affect the relationship.

also...my girlfriend has Moon conjunct Saturn in Scorpio in 7th(restrictions,obligations involving mother affect her relationships),and that conjunct my Sun. That indicate her obligations,restrictions involving her mother in relationships personally affect me. She also has Pluto in Libra in 7th conjunct her Moon-Saturn in Scorpio. That indicate power,trust issues involving mother can affect her relationships. Her mother has 7th house ruler Pluto in 5th house quincunx Saturn too! Not only that, they have Sun in 12th oppose Pluto in 6th in their composite chart. Her mother's Pluto in 8'29 Virgo opposes my ex's Juno in 8'13 Pisces! So there is a strong emphasis on power issues between them when it comes to relationships. My ex's mother also has Juno in Taurus in 12th square Saturn with only 1 minute arc which indicate her history of bad relationships including her exhusband/my ex's father where she was deceived that left her hating men and restricting herself from other relationships. There are obviously some serious relationship karmic dynamics that my ex has with her mother.

also...my last solar return chart had a grand cross of 2nd house ruler Moon in Gemini in 12th, 5th/12 house ruler Venus in Virgo in 4th,9th house ruler Uranus in Pisces in 10th,and 7th house ruler Jupiter in Sagittarius in 7th. That indicate bigtime romance,long distance,love,relationship,domestic,career,women issues. There was also Pluto in Sagittarius in 7th house conj Descendant too,and that indicate transformations in relationships. The only nice aspect my Solar Return Moon had was trine to 10th house ruler retrograde Neptune. However, that Neptune quincunx Venus in 4th, and that indicate love,relationship issues too.

I am very glad that Moon and Venus aren't challenged in my current Solar Return. The only aspects that my Solar Return Moon has is a conjunction with the Sun and sextile to my Pluto.
interestingly, I've been having Moon sextile Pluto for numerous lunar returns and will continue having it well into next year. There is a very strong emphasis on relationships,romance,love in my current solar return.

I also had retrograde Mercury in 5th in my last solar return too. I have retrograde Mercury in my current lunar return right now. My next lunar return period starts November 7th.

so hell yeah...I am very glad that I have just started a new Solar Return with better lunar aspects and no grand crosses nor other challenging symmetrical planetary geometrical harmonic syndromes.

Obviously there a lot factors to consider

posted November 01, 2008 12:15 PM           

how are you?Long time we didnt talked to each other.

really? that couple is one of my favorite ones long time!I just love their story and it always made me believe in true love...

well that finding of yours made me smile and a lot better! Tr Pluto meaned transformations on relationships ( and so it happened..),and T.uranus had the effect of sudden marriage,like others have said.

Glaucus

that is overwelming...i mean,most of the transits youve talked about i didnt catched a thing (afterall im still learning) but what stroke me most was the conections that your exgfīs mother has with you both - that makes me think that you were all conected in other previous life.

somehow,sth happened that translated quite strongly into this life,and made you separate ( among other things..through her).

Long distance relationship are maneagable and certainly not impossible ( we are also in one), but yes,in your case racism must have played a play on that.

was your exgf a cancer?or had a strong cancer influence? that resonate with my bf - he has cancer asc and certainly his most important person in life is his mom...i hope that doesnt place problems between us too.

posted November 01, 2008 12:22 PM         

I'm good thanks How are you? I knew it would bring a smile to your face and they did get married in Vegas, so it was out of the ordinary I guess (uranus). You have a great love story too!

posted November 01, 2008 12:30 PM         

My exgirlfriend is not a cancer...The aspects to her Moon indicate the mother issues. Her Moon-Saturn in Scorpio in 7th/8th conjunct Pluto in Libra in 7th.

Her Mom has Moon in 9'21 Cancer,and it squares my ex's Sun in 9'14 Aries

Also her Mom has Moon square Eris in 9'55 Aries....so she has Moon square Eris with only 34 minutes of arc
Eris figures prominently in diversity,ideological issues too....I do wonder about racism, but she is definitely a sexist in the extreme feminine sense

I admire feminism of an equality kind.....the belief that men and women are equal without any hatred

In that way,I am a feminist myself.
I do have Sun conj true Black Moon Lilith in Scorpio with 22 minutes of arc,and that trines my Moon in Pisces. I do have strong feminine qualities including even have higher estrogen levels than the average male reflected by longer index fingers compared to ring fingers which indicates more exposure to estrogen when I was in my mom's womb. I have Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio with Moon in Pisces and Virgo Ascendant...all those are in feminine signs including all of my big 3.

My ex has Moon square Mean Black Moon Lilith in Aquarius in 12th with 3 minutes of arc, and I wonder if that reflects her extreme feminist mother who has true Black Moon Lilith in Virgo in 5th oppose Mars in 11th with 15 minutes of arc.

5th house is children, and 11th house is partners of one's children! She has Mercury-Jupiter in Aquarius in 11th oppose 11th house ruler Uranus in Leo in 5th too! True Black Moon Lilith conjuncts 11th house ruler Uranus and oppose Mercury-Jupiter in 11th! That reflects conflict involving her children and their partner.

I checked true black moon lilith and mean black lilith in their composite
Mean Black Moon Lilith in 23'14 Scorpio and True Black Moon Lilith in 24'41 Scorpio and that conjunction quincunxes Venus in 24'03 Aries. So you see feminism and relationships/love in conflict

posted November 01, 2008 12:49 PM           

Yuhuu!Hurray for the uranus afterall!

- thank you...im ok too,but with a flu today.here it is the day of "spirits" 1st November.so im here at home while all other go to the cemetery put flowers and pray ( like if praying had to be only this day..).maybe thatīs why im feeling bad.thse kind of days make me feel sad.

but im ok thank you

Glaucus,

im sorry - i wasnt talking about your ex-gf.i was refering to her mother ( if she maybe also had some kind of racism hidden in her).
well i was already thinking sth was wrong cause i was reading your post again and missed many things hihih - now i get it! Dont worry my friend - im a virgo sun and i understand perfectly well your perfeccionism.

now i understand the mother - past issues with men made her defensive.

a very good friend of mine has showed me recently that we just cant judge others cause they too have their own karmas to solve.Some have deep issues that make them hungry and when injustuces take place,and if centers it on the ones we love,we cant simply shut our mouth and go on..

but yes,its+s dificult to be a saint when we see injustices all around us.

But i see that you are already healed and the break up didnt made you bitter or hungry - that is quite a victory.

posted November 01, 2008 01:21 PM         

I agree

also....I am convinced that Ceres was also involved

In mythology, Ceres/Demeter had a daughter named Proserpina/Persephone who was kidnapped by Hades/Pluto to be his consort in the Underworld. Ceres was in grief over losing her daughter, and so the Earth suffered because she was the Goddess of the Harvest. She ended up getting her daughter back but not permanently. Proserpina ate some pomegranate seeds. Proserpina had split time between her mother and Pluto. So when Proserpina was with Ceres, the Earth had Spring and Summer. When Proserpina was with Pluto,it had Fall and Winter.

the theme was the mother having a hard time letting go of the daughter, the empty nest syndrome...also girl becoming a woman....you could say it also be losing one's virginity.

I always thought Ceres was another indicator for mother in the chart. Ceres is the asteroid of nurturing,and it does seem to strongly have to do with maternal matters.

in the natal chart of my ex's mother

She has a t-square of
Her Ceres is in 26'41 Taurus in her 1st house(self),and it squares the opposition of her Mercury in 28'47 Aquarius,Jupiter in 27'28 Aquarius in 11th house(partners of children) and 11th house ruler Uranus in 27'27 Leo in 5th house(children).

there is more

My exgirlfriend has Venus in 13'24 Taurus in 2nd square Ceres in 12'01 Aquarius in 12th, and so that indicates her love,relationships are in conflict with maternal matters, and my Ceres in 13'57 Leo forms a t-square with that. That indicates big time mother issues in our relationship.

there is even more

in their composite chart, They have a conjunction of Sun in 1'22 Aries and Ceres in 4'21 Aries in 12th, and that opposes Pluto in 3'35 Libra in 6th! Talk about living out the Ceres-Pluto-Proserpina theme!Nurturing at odds with transformation.

In the composite chart of me and my ex:
a conjunction of Ceres in 12'59 Scorpio and Uranus in 12'09 Scorpio in 6th square the opposition of Venus in 17'35 Aquarius in 8th/9th and Saturn in 18'56 Leo in 2nd/3rd
so even in our composite chart,Ceres is connected to Pluto.

in the composite chart of her mother and me:
Ceres in 5'19 Cancer in 12th square the conjunction of True Black Moon Lilith in 3'36 Libra and Imum Coeli in 4'39 Libra. Ceres is also oppose Mercury in 8'32 Capricorn in 6th. That can indicate nurturing and feminism in conflict affects relationships.

So there is a very strong Ceres theme involving us 3.

Ceres is no joke. I always believed that Ceres was underrated in Astrology too. It's no mere asteroid. At least astronomers made Ceres and Pluto equals because of Eris,but I feel that the astrologers should too.

I am definitely going to pay more attention to Ceres in synastry and composites too.
nurturing is a very important part in a relationship in my opinion. one's mother and her attitudes can easily factor into relationships.

my last Solar Return chart had Ceres in 19'25 Taurus Retrograde in 12th house square retrograde Neptune in 19'15 Aquarius in 9th,quincunx 7th house ruler Jupiter in 19'03 Sagittarius in 6th, and its even oppose Juno in 16'10 Scorpio in 6th!

You will be glad to know that my recently started Solar Return chart has Ceres in 27'49 Leo in 12th trine the conjunction of Pluto in 29'07 Sagittarius and Juno in 28'32 Sagittarius in 4th,and sextile Moon in 28'52 Libra in 3rd. A Minor Grand Trine. But you see again....the Pluto-Ceres-Proserpina story in my solar return but in a very good way. I will be curious how that manifests.

It's weird...these synchronicities

posted November 01, 2008 01:58 PM           

Taurus80,

just by your hughs i feel better already

Glaucus,

i knew Ceres had to do with nurturing and mothering.but didnt knew the Story.

it seems that Ceres is much more important than what we thought about,so it seems.

i never quite yet related the ceres into out motherīs,but simply to our capacity of nurturing!Thatīs very interesting,the way Ceres played in your relationship.

But now the next time a woman appear in your life,by thwe looks of it,it will be a very nurturing experience: at good relationship with emotions/comitted partners and intensity also.

let me see just Ceres in my chart:

it is in my 5th(retro)in Aqua.so far,it has some issues to solve cause it is retro,and being in 5th means it has to do with fun/romance or children.it is cj Lilith,so it has to do with feminine profound power issues.

it is trine P.F and NN.sextiles VX and opose my Valentine/Karma conjunction.So..seems to have to do with relationships somehow.

in my bfīs:

Ceres it is also in his 5H but in sag.
Cj his uranus/mars conjunction.opose his kiron and trine asc.so far seems that he needs freedom and action in order to feel nurtured?

If i look to the composite between my bf:

Ceres is placed in the 5H in Cap.
Squares Moon/Merc/Mars - hmm quite hard isnt it?
But it trines Venus,cj SN and opose Valentine.

IN SINASTRY

my Ceres cj his Moon-very nurturing here
Trines his valentine and his MC

posted November 01, 2008 09:11 PM         

It also trines saturn and pluto and sextiles my 4th house and neptune.

I have the worst relationship with my mum. I dont even think shes from this planet.

I was never nurtured as a child either and i moved away from home at 14 when my mum kicked me out. I raised myself and i come out very well considering half of my friends grew up with a drug habit and some are alcoholics.

If ceres was that great it shouldve done something for me with all the great aspects.

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 01, 2008 11:30 PM         

there are also the declination aspects that can factor in too.

posted November 02, 2008 12:32 AM         

I do know that when it makes a lot of aspects in synastry I tend to get really caught up in wanting to comfort the other person, and with it being in the 8th house...well, we can see where THAT goes! But that's a huge part of how I nurture. And I want to broaden their horizons and expand their world in some way...freaky.

I would definitely say there's something to Ceres.

posted November 02, 2008 06:51 AM         

Madonna's marriage DID end WHILE Uranus is in her 7th. Since it lasts so long, with many retrograde periods, you can expect things to happen slowly. as they say,
the 1st hit of a transit brings up the problem;
while the rx, the problem is considered and becomes conscious;
by the 3rd hit a change is made.

I've been having Uranus in my 1st house for years. the best example I can offer you is my hair. untill Uranus came in my first, my hair was long, natural. After that, I've been every color possible, I've cut it in every possible way. Change is the oly constant about my looks.

by that example, I expect you WILL want to get married while Uranus will be in your 7th. it will be sudden, you won't be willing to wait or think about it. Problem is - you'll want to do it over, and over, and over. *Change* is what Uranus brings. And every aspect it will make to your chart, every retrograde - will make you change the way you relate to your partner/change your partner/ change what you want from a rel.

from my own exp - it's certainly fun. and liberating. but after a while, you get tired of it. you get tired of yourself being like this. ok, I did. and I still have years ahead of me. [sigh]

posted November 02, 2008 09:12 AM           

the thing with your hair is much more maneagable than a marriage thank God for you that itīs passing your 1st isnt it?

but i would expect that it would also change the way you act personally,and not only how you "look"...

EDITED:

I just found out that in our Davidson ( and regular Composite),Tr Uranus is passing our 7H ( almost finidshing it) and till now,nothing out of ordinary happened!

And in the Progressed Composite,Tr Uranus is cj our VX,also just starting to conjunct our DSC.

posted November 02, 2008 11:05 AM         

It wouldnt suprise me if i did it again because both of them were just a signature on a piece of paper and nothing fancy i didnt take either of them seriously or feel any different to a normal boyfriend. I felt the difference when i applied for a divorce because the court made me wait 2 years before i could divorce him even though we broke up the second day.

My 7th house ruler isnt aspected by uranus either. My 7th house ruler neptune is trine venus and sextile pluto and neptune.

Some people do say pisces is also ruler by jupiter. if that were the case then jupiter is conjunct uranus in my chart and it squares venus,mercury, sun and mars in my chart..

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo