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Topic: Wide houses
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Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 07:47 AM
What happens when one House extends to more than one sign? For example, someone has a Virgo DSC, but his/her 7th H contains Libra and Scorpio as well. Would that signify anything?IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted November 01, 2008 08:12 AM
One reason is that you are using the wrong house system.IP: Logged |
annaf Knowflake Posts: 322 From: Registered: Oct 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 09:55 AM
Kick it,so what are you suggesting? Are you using the equal house system? IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 01, 2008 09:59 AM
It means they were born in the North and are using Placidus. I use that, though I started off with use Equal House. Maybe try both and see how you feel about it. They're different methods of symbolic division, there's no absolute answer. IP: Logged |
Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 10:16 AM
Only Placidus works for me. Anything else makes no sense. That's not quite what I meant with my post though. o_OIP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 01, 2008 10:51 AM
Do you mean the significance of those signs intercepted in the houses? IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted November 01, 2008 11:25 AM
if they WERE born far north it would account for that situation... if you use KOCH house system, which is not THAT far off placidus, it is designed to make the extreme lats more workable...i learned charting in the uk where a lot of people were born at high lats and it works very well...i tend to use it for everybody and find it preferable to placidus. IP: Logged |
Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 01:00 PM
I'm not talking about charting people. According to my example, Virgo DSC natives attract hardworking, efficient, and exacting partners who help them manage their practical affairs Wouldn't Libra and Scorpio affect the way this DSC's functions as well? quote: Do you mean the significance of those signs intercepted in the houses?
Yes.
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 01, 2008 01:08 PM
quote: First and Seventh Houses: The problem areas are “presenting” yourself (1st house) and partnerships (7th house). The nature of the intercepted signs will show the specific problem areas.
From Bob Marks page, he outlines the signs on the same page: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Intercepted_signs.htm
quote: when a sign lacks a house cusp, it may not have a particularly easy way to express itself. It's still working under the surface, but it may not be able to express itself easily.
http://www.planetwaves.net/cainer/archive/003540.php
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aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 203 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted November 01, 2008 01:16 PM
Hi, hope this helps too http://www.strangehouse.com/intercepted-signs/index.php IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted November 01, 2008 01:19 PM
Equal/whole sign....just slight differences. The good bit about them two is you dont get lots of signs in one house. It removes the problem. Yes, I know astro.com uses placidus as default.A big argument in astrology is which house system to use. There are many. Lots of people think they have the best one. They are wrong, I am right
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23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 03:13 PM
That's Kick It's Aries Moon talking, *always* right
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Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 04:15 PM
Thank you so much for the links. "Intercepted houses", that's what I was talking about.IP: Logged |
mmmland Knowflake Posts: 5 From: norway Registered: Jul 2008
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posted November 01, 2008 05:05 PM
Hi! If someone can post my chart I think it would be a perfect example.. My 1st and 7th house span 3 signs.. Born dec 5 1973 at 11:35 am Trondheim Norway Feel free to tell me what you think. ------------------
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 01, 2008 05:12 PM
my 1st and 7th span 3 too... but l use equal hahahaand nothing else exists IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Bolloxville, Nutbush Registered: Mar 2005
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posted November 01, 2008 05:31 PM
Mmmland,Dunno why but I feel dizzy after looking at your chart - and I bit frightened to be honest. I find the irregular sizes houses intimidating. IP: Logged |
mmmland Knowflake Posts: 5 From: norway Registered: Jul 2008
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posted November 01, 2008 06:38 PM
I tend to have that effect on people.........Ha Ha..------------------
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 01, 2008 06:55 PM
Whatever house system you use there will still be a Cradle configuration on the left of the chart ~ with Moon/Pluto/Jupiter/Neptune. Looks nice.
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Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted November 02, 2008 05:00 AM
Whoa at your 1st-7th IP: Logged |
Green Fairy Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted November 02, 2008 08:38 AM
Astrological Chart Intepretation by Morin de Villefranche [excerpt]
quote: How to proceed when two or more Planets occupy a House The more planets there are physically together in a house, the more this will indicate something extraordinary in terms of the house meanings. When many planets occupy the same house, each operates according to its nature and its own other determinations. Each one must first be considered according to the rules numbered from 22 to 53. The most powerful action on the house significations will come from whichever one of the planets is also the house ruler; then, from that one which is in exaltation; and in the third place, from the one possessing the closest natural analogy with the house meanings. When the dignity and analogy are not found together in the same planet, one must take into consideration the two or three planets together in which these conditions are separately realized. The fourth place in order of power goes to the planet which is nearest to the house cusp. When, among many planets occupying the same house, some correspond by their analogy to the meanings attached to the house, whereas others are contrary to them, it is necessary to ascertain which of these two groups is the most powerful. If the former, the affairs indicated will be achieved; if the latter, their realization will be impeded or prevented. When the planets occupying the same house are all benefics, they anticipate the fulfillment of the good fortune and the supression of misfortune indicated by the house. If they are malefics, the contrary will occur, unless they are in good zodiacal state in a favorable house. If some are benefics, and others malefics, it will be necessary to examine with care which ones of the two groups are the most powerful, and to judge according to the result of this organization. Consider the following: If, in a fortunate house, a benefic planet is followed * by another benefic, this indicates that the good produced by the house affairs will be stable. If the benefic is followed by a malefic, the fortune acquired will be lost. In an unfortunate house, a benefic followed by another benefic indicates that the misfortune will not be realized, or if it is, in an extremely limited way. If this benefic is followed by a malefic, however, the misfortune signified by the house will certainly occur, but the native will escape it. But if a malefic is followed by another malefic, the misfortunes caused will be very serious and the native will never escape them. By "benefic" and "malefic" we mean as defined in Rule 26. *In the direction of the diurnal movement of the Sphere; the body which precedes is thus the one closest to the cusp, the one which follows is further away. When many planets are found together in the same house and their dispositor is located in another, the affairs signified by this latter will form the point of departure for whatever fortune or misfortune is produced by the group of planets. (Cf. Rule 63)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-books/astrological-chart-interpretation.php IP: Logged |