posted November 03, 2008 05:06 AM              

I still think that 5th house is house of sex and not the 8th house. Why that so I would explain by myself but that is too private.

Here are three persons, great lover in the history (I have to find more of them) where 8th house has no importance. More important that two of them had AC Scorpio.

Mata Hari:

Giacomo Casanova:

Lord Byron:

posted November 03, 2008 05:10 AM              

I find air ascendants are better lovers

posted November 03, 2008 05:14 AM            

Eros conj Pluto (Pluto is chart ruler)
Eros conj MC
Eros in 10th square NN (albeit wide and otherwise, unaspected)

posted November 03, 2008 05:15 AM            

Mata Hari has Venus in Cancer in the 8th ~ doesn't that ooze female sexual power?

And Lord Byron has the Sun in the 8th.

posted November 03, 2008 05:15 AM              

I have just read Biographies from Lord Byron and Giacomo Casanova.

Lord Byron was in love with his sister, had child with her but had to marry because his sister told him so.

Casanova was also in love with his own daughter, but he didn't know that (the day before marriage her mother came and told him that her daughter is also his daughter -from love affair in Venice).
Now for me is enygma: where to see incest in Byron’s Natal Chart?

Strange for both of them:

Byron has died in Greece (in abroad).
Casanova has died in one village in Poland (in abroad).

About Mata Hara I have to read next time.

posted November 03, 2008 05:20 AM              

I know more women with AC Scorpio and they really can't live without sex.

posted November 03, 2008 05:23 AM              

I have also Venus in Taurus in 8th and is better if I don't tell you my story. You wouldn't believe in 8th house anymore.

For me all happened with ruler of 5th in 9th. After that: silence!

posted November 03, 2008 05:26 AM              

Byron.....

Incest can be seen from 3rd ruler, Mercury, in the 7th.

He has 1st ruler, Moon, conjunct 8th ruler, Uranus.

Casanova.... done this before. He has 1st, 5th and 8th in aspect using equal.

posted November 03, 2008 05:31 AM              

Fire sign men are passionate yet wanna get to the end of the race and WIN ASAP!

posted November 03, 2008 05:33 AM              

Here I like Casanova's Chart. He was all over. Not to believe in that time, when there were no cars, no trains.

Byron and Casanova had for lover only married women.

They both had to leave their home:
Byron, England,
Casanova, Venice.

posted November 03, 2008 05:36 AM              

Sex and the 8th House is a Theosophy inspired myth, because Theosophy hijacked astrology in the early 20th century.

5th House will reveal the sex-drive for the sake of producing children. 5th House also reveals how joyful sex is for the native.

Scorpio is the absolute ruler of sexual desire and Mars in its role as co-Ruler of Scorpio is the ruling planet of sex.

Asteroid Eros and Asteroid Lust will also infleunce one's sex life. Bill Clinton and Gene Simmons have strongly aspected Asteroid Lust. Gene Simmons makes Mata Hari look like a nun.

posted November 03, 2008 05:38 AM              

You should have somebody with AC Scorpio with Venus and Mars in fire signs.

posted November 03, 2008 05:46 AM              

That is good lesson for me. I have to remember what all you write here.

I think if the children belong to the 5th why is sex in the 8th?

Other thing: ruler of my 8th, Venus in 8th means delay of the things there. It can be delay of inheritance, of taxes (should be delay of death as well) but not delay of sex. Sex happens in youth, middle age (it depends from the person) and sometimes pretty long.

I wonder how that is if somebody has ruler of 8th (retrograde) in 8th: what happens to that person?

posted November 03, 2008 05:57 AM              

Here is somebody with Scorpio on the cusp of 5th: she is waiting for great love. Nothing from the 5th house:

posted November 03, 2008 06:14 AM              

quote:

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The 8th House has nothing to do with sex.
It has everything to do with taxes, inheritance, legal systems, power politics, corporate hierarchies and the big establishments.

Sex and the 8th House is a Theosophy inspired myth, because Theosophy hijacked astrology in the early 20th century.

5th House will reveal the sex-drive for the sake of producing children. 5th House also reveals how joyful sex is for the native.

Scorpio is the absolute ruler of sexual desire and Mars in its role as co-Ruler of Scorpio is the ruling planet of sex.

Asteroid Eros and Asteroid Lust will also infleunce one's sex life. Bill Clinton and Gene Simmons have strongly aspected Asteroid Lust. Gene Simmons makes Mata Hari look like a nun.

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posted November 03, 2008 06:34 AM              

Truth is Mars is the only ruler of Scorpio and Pluto is the only ruler of Aries.

Heres a laterally thought out proof [There is clear mathematical proof and clear numerological proof, I intend to present it later.]:

1. Who is called the Superman of the Zodiac?
Ans: Aries

2. When were Superman comics initiated?
Ans: Around 1933

3. When was Pluto Discovered?
1930

I rest my case.

posted November 03, 2008 06:35 AM              

But just like all astrology, definitions are not clear cut.

posted November 03, 2008 06:38 AM              

Hi Lara,
Hope to comment on your chart later. Some scintillating aspects! Quite cool!

posted November 03, 2008 07:17 AM              

I have put once about 50 Asteroids into my Natal Chart and have got something like parachute.

I don't know what Asteroids are more important than other but I like to have only most important, like:

Juno
Amor
Eros
Karma,
Moira (have in the 9th)
and some more.

Too many of them make only Chaos.