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blue moon
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posted November 05, 2008 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
The Magi system predicted a McCain victory, so I understand.

Has this put anybody off this branch of astrology?

With a particular nod to a happy man (I can imagine how happy you must feel, it must be my psychic ability to soak up emotions) ~~ Glaucus, congratulations!

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buena36
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posted November 05, 2008 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi BM,

I have some predictions from one Astrologer about the time coming for USA (I am afraid a bit) but can't write it here. Where?

Buena

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Deliverance
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posted November 05, 2008 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
Naa, my opinions haven't changed, I was always suspect of Magi & their Cinderella stuff.

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Mannu
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posted November 05, 2008 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
What if Obama was born in Kenya as opposed to Hawaii?


Anyhow, the Magi astrology predicts what will be good for the future of America. That is the basic 101 of astrology. Future can be changed. McCain was indeed the better choice for America. The Americans has bypassed what was adviced. It is free choice. We are not puppets.


Besides lets wait till Jan 20.


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Lara
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posted November 05, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Mannu!!!

You wise man hehe x

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Mannu
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posted November 05, 2008 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
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Glaucus
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posted November 05, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
A Magi Astrologer pointed out that McCain announced Palin as his running mate during Saturn quincunx Chiron in the sky....a heartbreak aspect.Palin was definitely a liability for McCain.
I guess that overrided McCain's 2 Cinderella transits transiting Chiron to his Pluto and transiting Chiron to his Neptune
Of course, he also has transiting Saturn oppose Saturn and transiting Saturn contraparalell Saturn...a Saturn-Saturn occultation clash....that would seem to be a sign of defeat.

I also wonder if Obama had some good midpoint transits. Magi Astrologers use those. They also use Pallas,Vesta,Ceres,Juno. I
didn't know that they used asteroids. They keep adding new things to
Magi Astrology.


I am not really much into Magi Astrology. I only used it for election charts. I had predicted 2 Bush elections, and so I felt comfortable using the system for elections.

I really don't think it works for relationships,love. I can point numerous reasons why. I think put too much negative focus on both Saturn and Uranus aspects. I also feel that they just keep adding stuff to support their views. Also...I believe that things aren't always black and white (no pun intended). I also don't believe in cause and effect in Astrology like they seem to. I don't believe astrological aspects make us or break us. I believe the astrological aspects are in synchronicity with our potential to make or break ourselves. If we fail,we have ourselves to blame...not the astrological aspects. That's how I approach Astrology.

Barack Obama got elected because he maximized his potential his great potential that was in synchronicity with certain astrological configurations. He didn't become president because of the certain astrological configurations.


there were other things to consider too....the death of his grandmother. Months ago,no astrologer would see that coming.
the transits that some astrologers(including myself) indicate a presidential election loss for Obama was actually transits seem to indicate a loss of family member. I am very sure that is a much greater loss than if he had lost the presidential election.

It looks like transiting Pluto in opposition to his 4th house ruler Venus in Cancer reflected the death of a family member...that being his maternal grandmother. I wished that she was alive to see it. She's united with her husband and daughter in the heavens, and they are all smiling down proud of Barack.


any ways....I will be more than happy to stop using the Magi Astrology system.

I do like Cosmobiology,and that's a planetary geometrical system that works very well. It also focuses heavily on midpoints too. I have been looking more into midpoints lately.


this is what I typed in a post in yahoo Political Astrology group. I should have posted in this forum.


This is in response to an astrologer's post about Obama's his seemingly magical ability to obtain money and his ability to manage it well.


Yeah...I can see that....if you use co-rulerships, Jupiter rules his
2nd house....so Moon trine 2nd house ruler

He has his 8th house ruler Mercury oppose/contraparallel Jupiter
too....that can be good...especially when you add the Moon....3 planet configuration...so Moon makes easy aspects to both 2nd house ruler and 8th house ruler

His 8th house ruler Mercury links to Jupiter contraparallel Pluto in
declinations...that could be good for business,investments.


Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is said to be associated with wealth
he has that midpoint square his Ascendant with 51 minutes of arc. He
has Sun/Uranus midpoint oppose his Ascendant with 51 minutes of arc.
This looks like a person who can help generate great change that is
beneficial for him and others.

His Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc Midheaven squares Natal Jupiter/Pluto midpoint with 27 minutes of arc applying on Election Day. That looks like beneficial changes,power expansion.

That also means that his Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc Midheaven has
been conjuncting his Ascendant which seems like he found his soul life purpose when deciding to run for President of the United States.

It look it is the right time for him to run for president,and so he
shouldn't wait 2012 or later.


He has Sun square Jupiter/Uranus midpoint with 31 minutes of arc, and that indicates he can have sudden look, beneficial changes.

Ebertin said that Jupiter/Uranus midpoint is "Thank The Lord"

I find it interesting that transiting Jupiter/Uranus midpoint is conjuncting his Ascendant now,and he will still have that transit on Election Day. He had that transit when Colin Powell endorsed him too.

Transiting Jupiter/Uranus midpoint aspecting his midpoint picture of
Ascendant = Sun/Uranus = Jupiter/Pluto on Election Day looks like he will be thanking god for being allowed to make beneficial changes by being in power. In other words, looks like a good transit configuration for somebody that's elected president....especially
when he already has Jupiter/Uranus midpoint aspect any way that is reinforced by his Jupiter/Uranus midpoint.

Transiting Jupiter/Node midpoint conjunct his Jupiter exact on November 7th. That looks very good for him.

Yeah....when I look at it now and reflect on it, it seems these configurations reflect a presidential election!


I will definitely a focus a lot more on Cosmobiology.


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Jai
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posted November 05, 2008 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jai     Edit/Delete Message

I was glad that the election turned out the way it did, despite the Magi prediction. Maybe now they won't be quite so smug.

That said, I am still trying to learn about Magi because it has proven pretty acurate in my own life.

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savanna20
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posted November 05, 2008 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus: I am John Mccain and I approve of that message!

Jk.

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Glaucus
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posted November 05, 2008 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I actually prefer more
geometrical based systems. I don't like focusing on zodiac signs and
house placements. I like incorporate recent discoveries and
techniques. That's why I even like the golden section aspects that
Theodor Landscheidt. Of course,I use the declinations which are used
in systems outside Magi Astrology. Even Cosmobiologists use them,and
they even use declination midpoints like Magi Astrologers. Magi
Astrologers even pass off midpoint conjunction midpoint
configurations as magi quads like the Uranian Astrologers. Even David
Cochrane works with them,and he wrote an article about them. The Magi
Astrology planetary geometrical system is not really original.


btw....Obama has a Mercury,Pluto,Eris golden section triangle
with a corresponding Pluto square Mercury/Eris midpoint. I feel that
indicate his communicative ability to bring about transformation in
regards to diversity matters. That

I haven't read any of Landscheidt's work that mentioned golden
section triangles and their correspondence with midpoint
configurations.

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Lara
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posted November 05, 2008 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
haha savannah


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Green Fairy
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posted November 05, 2008 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green Fairy     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
McCain was indeed the better choice for America

And a terrible one for the rest of the world. We Balkan people would be f___d.

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VirgOh
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posted November 05, 2008 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
That gold bracelet he is wearing is so out of place and he is like flashing it(Hey look at my bracelet)... As if lmao

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luv and light
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posted November 06, 2008 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luv and light     Edit/Delete Message
according to this article by the Magi , progressions are FAR more powerful that transits!
http://www.magiastrology.com/astrology_of_presidential_primaries.htm

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blue moon
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posted November 06, 2008 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
It might be a medical allergy bracelet. Any comments on how the election results effect your perception of Magi Astrology?

For me, I could ditto Deliverance's comments. My suspicions remain. There is no prince on a big horse riding over to save me and let me live happily ever after without any effort.

As for the election, yes I think he worked it well. I'm in the U.K so I can only go on news reports and what people say here, but the random interviews news stations are making seem to suggest the message of 'change' got through, it's the one word keeps getting repeated. So I think Mr Obama put in the free-will component to make things work.

Grandma, that's the kind of thing is out of our control, life throws these things our way. No matter how much we try and use Astrology to predict events, it could well turn out to be the unexpected, or a manifestation of the transit/aspect/solar arc that we never thought of, something we just have to get on with and it's all a question of how we handle it.


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Kick It
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posted November 08, 2008 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
What did Magi Society base a McCain win on?

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Belage
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posted November 09, 2008 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
I LOVE Magi's interpretation, but one of my personal beef, as I have been studying them and checking their website for almost 10 years, is that they do a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking, especially when it comes to celebrity relationships and world events.

First, they were saying that Chiron aspects and Pluto were the most important aspects in determining compatibility or relationship viability, then they added dragons, then they added asteroids, etc... They always seem to be adding stuff to explain why initial predictions failed.

I like to keep it simple. I just go back to their basics, and I find that it works.

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tara19
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posted November 09, 2008 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tara19     Edit/Delete Message
I have to agree with Belage here. They do a lot of backpeddling and adding stuff in order to "explain" away stuff they've predicted. I think they did the same thing with that astronomer woman who went after her lover's lover (I am forgetting her name) but it really bothers me when they do that.

As for me, I did see the cinderella transits to McCain's chart. But his progressions were nowhere near as great as Obama's, and also the inauguration day chart is phenomenal in conjunction with Obama's. Also, McCain had some rough Saturn transits in both his helio and geo charts that plugged into his T-Square.

So, I dunno. I am inclined to agree with Glaucus that it makes me doubly unsure of the Magi system. But I've no doubt they'll come up with some fresh Monday morning quarterbacking soon to explain away their Epic Fail in this regard.

Thanks,
Tara.

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