posted November 11, 2008 05:39 AM         

Dwads are important, they add another layer to the sign-placement. Personally I have found them to make interesting aspects in synastry and they add a layer to the personality.

posted November 11, 2008 05:34 PM         

so when we make synastry with dwads do we consider only conjunctions or all the other aspects?And do we make it dwad to dwad?sorry if its silly question

posted November 11, 2008 09:45 PM         

Ok, let's take my Sun for example. It sits at 2 degrees Aquarius. It is in the sign of Aquarius, decanate Aquarius, dwad Aquarius or Aqu-Aqu-Aqu for short.

If someone else's Sun sits at 4 deg, then it would be conj my Sun. Their details would be Aqu (sign) - Aqu (decanate) - Pisces (dwad).

If their Sun sat at 6 degrees, it still would be conj my Sun but their details would be Aqu-Aqu-Aries.

At 8 degrees, still conj - their details would be Aqu-Aqu-Tau.

At 10 degrees, there would be conjecture as to whether their Sun were conj my Sun but their details would be Aqu-Aqu-Gem.

So the following for the dwads that I used above for the Suns:
Aqu - Aqu - same sign and therefore conjunct. They say the conjunction is the first aspect and the strongest. It is both "good" and "bad", ie you understand each other completely but familiarity breeds contempt.

Aqu-Pisces - semi-sextiling - mildly compatible

Aqu-Aries - sextiling signs - compatible

Aqu-Tau - squaring signs, not compatible.

Aqu-Gemini - trining - harmonious and compatible.

Ok, that means that all the Suns at all the degrees that I mentioned are compatible because of the nature of the dwads. However, you might ask: well, is the Aqu-Aqu-Aqu Sun person going to get along with Aqu-Aqu-Tau person? I say overall yes but maybe with a bit of annoyance - they are conjuncting Suns which may produce friction and good times (of same decanate too) but maybe a bit more than others because it is Aqu v Tau dwad.

Let's try Aqu Sun v Tau Sun. As like before, my Sun is at 2 deg Aqu, it is Aqu-Aqu-Aqu.

Compare to some Tau Suns:

2 deg Tau Sun - Tau-Tau-Tau
4 deg Tau Sun - Tau-Tau-Gem
6 deg Tau Sun - Tau-Tau-Cancer
8 deg Tau Sun - Tau-Tau-Leo
10 deg Tau Sun - Tau-Tau-Virgo

Dwad to dwad relationship:
Aqu - Tau - squaring - not compatible
Aqu - Gem - harmonious and compatible
Aqu - Cancer - quincunx - mildly discomforting
Aqu - Leo - polar opposites, similar but different.
Aqu - Virgo - quincunx - mildly discomforting

Notwithstanding the dwad analysis, the chances of a Tau of whatever dwad getting along with Aqu of whatever dwad is slim without a lot of work because the signs and decanates are incompatible.

However, does that mean a Tau will get along with Aqu on the basis of dwads? Maybe so, because Tau-Tau-Tau is direct conflict with Aqu-Aqu-Aqu at sign, decanate and dwad level; that means it's the hardest square to take cf Aqu-Aqu-Aqu v Tau-Tau-Gem. What I am trying to say is that dwads show how important an exact aspect is and how strong it can be.

OK if we take the mildly uncomfortable aspect of sesquiquadrate that may also show the importance of dwads. These aspects are 135 degrees apart. Again using my 2 deg Aqu Sun, a sesquiquadrate Sun would be at 17 deg Gemini. Details of 17 deg Gem are Gem-Libra-Sco. Gem sign and Libra decanate are compatible with Aqu sign and decanate but the dwad-dwad analysis shows difficulty: Aqu v Sco. Hence the friction is caused at the dwad level notwithstanding sign compatiblity.

Another example, the dissasociate aspect. Eg 2 deg Aqu Sun v 29 deg Sco Sun.

My Sun - Aqu-Aqu-Aqu
29 deg Sco Sun - Sco-Pisces-Libra

Aqu sign not compatible with Sco sign but Aqu details are compatible with Libra dwad and relatively so with Pisces decanate (semi-sextile).

Dwads are very important because they show why exact aspects are so strong and show why some positive/negative aspects can occur in normally (in)compatible conditions.

posted November 12, 2008 05:29 AM         

I definitely agree. Stuart Townsend and Charlize Theron are a good example for this. They don`thavetoo many exact strong positive connections (even though they are elementarily compatible: Him: Sagittarius Sun and Aries Moon; her: Leo Sun and Moon).

But they have an exact opposition of her Mars in Taurus to his Venus in SCorpio. It is so exact that it gets even repeated in the Dwads!

I often have noticed that there are even close aspects between the Dwads of two persons or between Dwad and natal chart.
You can actually calculate the exact Dwad-degree and compare it to the other one`s chart.

posted November 12, 2008 05:57 AM         

Example:
My Dwad ASC is on 22° Aquarius
Orlando Bloom`s ASC is on 21° Aquarius, and I can say he appeals to me.

posted November 12, 2008 06:07 AM         

But his Mars was exactly opposite my Dwad Venus.
and his Dwad Mars fell into my Venus-Sign. !