posted November 15, 2008 11:39 PM         

Transiting Pluto is in my 4th house square my Pluto in Libra in 1st with 1'12 orb applying right now, and this seems a lot to do with confronting past,domestic traumatic issues that brought about transformation in me

My mom's shooting was definitely the most traumatic and transformational experience for both of us

I checked out the following asteroids
Gunn,Gunnie - gun violence
Angel - for angels
Karma

I also checked the Nodes of Gunn,Gunnie,Karma,Angel in regards to karmic connections,associations
The Heliocentric Nodes of all objects are very slow moving. They don't even move a degree within a century. They have to do with the collective.
Geocentric Asteroid Nodes are personal connections,associations
Heliocentric Asteroid Nodes are collective connections,associations

The north and south nodes of an object in the geocentric coordinates aren't opposite each other when it comes to actual geometrical angle separation nor by sign except for outer objects

the north and south of an object in the heliocentric coordinates are always exactly opposite each other,and so it can be considered an axis....that's why I don't list North and South for them)

birthdata:

mine:
October 29, 1971
San Francisco,California
3:20 AM

My mothers:
June 13, 1954
Oakland,California
6:26 AM

asteroids,asteroid nodes calculated at Jonathan Dunn's ephemeral site.....I strongly recommend it! http://megadelfi.com/~jonathan/

NATAL CHARTS OF MY MOTHER AND ME

my natal:
Gunnie in 3'19 Virgo in 12th
conjunct Saturn/Neptune midpoint in 3'28 Virgo in 12th
oppose Moon in 3'10 Pisces in 6th
square Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 9th
square Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd
quincunx Gunn in 3'31 Libra in 1st
quincunx Karma in 3'18 Libra in 1st
(Gunnie forms a grand cross with my t-square of Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition,closely conjuncting my Saturn/Neptune midpoint,quincunx my Gunn-Karma which trines my Saturn)

Gunn in 0'05 South
(on the celestial equator,and so the energy is strong)

Angel in 27'43 Gemini Retrograde in 10th
trine my 8th house ruler Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th
(divinely protected from having a violent death...hmmm)

her natal:
Gunnie in 18'56 Leo in 3rd
square Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th (children)
square Vertex(fated relationships) in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th (children)

Moon in 21'36 South
contrparallel Gunnie in 22'15 North
(she has Moon square/contraparallel Gunnie....therefore,Moon-Gunn bilevel)

Gunn in 1'13 Cancer in 1st (self)
conjunct Ascendant in '07 Cancer
conjunct Karma in 3'09 Cancer in 1st (self)
trine Saturn in 3'04 Scorpio R in 5th (children)

Moon in Scorpio in 5th sesquiquadrate Karma in Cancer in 1st - '42

Angel in 6'34 Gemini in 12th
quincunx Mars in 5'49 Capricorn Retrograde
(conjunct my Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th)

not only do my mother and I both have hard Moon-Gunnie aspect within 10 minutes of arc, but we also both have Gunn-Karma conjunction within 2 degree orb, Mars aspecting Angel in Gemini, and Moon-Karma aspect

In my chart:
ANGEL NODES:
Heliocentric Angel Nodes in 2'28 Virgo/Pisces in 12th/6th (Sabian Symbol 3 Virgo...Two Guardian Angels "invisible help and protection in times of crisis....that's very synchronisitic for the Heliocentric North Angel Node happening to be located in the Guardian Angel degree.....it is also the Sabian aspect orb for my Moon quincunx Pluto which can indicate an intense,transformational,experience leading to trauma)
conjunct/oppose Gunnie in 3'19 Virgo in 12th
oppose/conjunct Moon in 3'10 Pisces in 6th
oppose/conjunct Sadalmelik in 3'22 Pisces in 6th
oppose/conjunct Fomalhaut in 3'28 Pisces in 6th
(seems like a divine protection from gun violence)
(with the fixed star,Fomalhaut in Pisces Austrinus ,one of the 4 royal stars of Persia and known as 'Star of Alchemy' is considered a fortunate mystical influence,that could play into being divinely protected from being shot...especially when it is in alignment with the heliocentric Angel Nodes)
(with the fixed star,Sadalmelik in Aquarius meaning "Lucky one of the King", it could be a fortunate influence and could play a part in being protected from being shot,...especially when it is in alignment with the heliocentric Angel Nodes)

Geocentric North Angel Node in 15'06 Virgo in 1st
square Geocentric North Mars Node in 14'39 Gemini in 10th - present associations,connections with violence,passion
square Geocentric North Uranus Node in 15'46 Gemini in 10th - present associations,connections with unpredictability,liberation
quincunx Vertex in 14'58 Aquarius in 5th

Geocentric South Angel Node in 12'13 Aquarius in 5th
trine Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
sextile Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Geocentric South Uranus Node in 12'04 Sagittarius in 4th - past associations with unpredictability,liberation

GUNNIE NODES:
Heliocentric Gunnie Nodes in 26'54 Aries/Libra in 8th/2nd
sextile/trine 8th Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th
sextile/trine Angel in 27'43 Gemini Retrograde in 10th
(this also could indicate divine protection from gun violence and violent death.....also I was in the navy,and I was trained to use a hand gun...petty officer of the watch wears a handgun at the side)

Geocentric North Gunnie Node in 21'47 Aries in 8th
square Geocentric North Pluto Node in 21'20 Cancer in 11th - present associations with intensity,transformation
square Geocentric North Jupiter Node in 20'52 Cancer in 11th - present associations with
quincunx Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd - loved one

Geocentric South Gunnie Node in 29'08 Libra in 2nd
conjunct Geocentric North Mercury Node in 29'36 Libra in 2nd - present associations,connections with communications
conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Chiron Nodes in 28'59 Libra in 2nd/8th - associations,connections with woundedness,healing
square Geocentric North Saturn Node in 29'43 Cancer in 11th - associations,connections with discipline,structure

GUNN NODES:
Heliocentric Gunn Nodes in 5'11 Aries/Libra in 7th/1st
sextile Saturn in 5'08 Gemini Retrograde in 9th
quincunx Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
semisextile/quincunx Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 5'30 Taurus/Scorpio in 8th/2nd - connections,associations with discord
(a Yod of Sun-South Eris Node quincunx Saturn-North Gunn Node sextile...seems like a karmic fated configuration in regards to gun violence, my stepfather owned a gun too...also..he and I would argue a lot...he was a control freak both mentally and physical abusive with me, he told me that if he ever thought I would harm him as in becoming bigger and stronger than him and get into physical altercation with him,he would shoot me...he told me this before I reached my teens....my mom's shooting led to him being my stepfather...)

Geocentric North Gunn Node in 17'39 Pisces in 7th
trine chart ruler Mercury in 18'20 Scorpio in 3rd
sextile/trine Heliocentric Mercury Nodes in 18'00 Taurus/Scorpio in 3rd - connections,associations with communications
sextile Geocentric South Saturn Node in 18'00 Capricorn in 5th - past associations wtih discipline,structure
sextile Geocentric South Pluto Node in 18'23 Capricorn in 5th - past associations with intensity,transformation

Geocentric South Gunn Node in 14'56 Libra
conjunct 6th house ruler Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd
trine Vertex in 14'58 Aquarius in 5th
trine/sextile Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 13'52 Gemini/Sagittarius in 10th/4th - associations,connections with unpredictaiblity,liberation
sextile Ceres(nurturing,mother) in 13'57 Leo in 11th

KARMA NODES:
Heliocentric Karma Nodes in 8'58 Pisces/Virgo
trine Geocentric South Mercury Node in 8'17 Scorpio - past assocations,connections with communications
oppose/conjunct East Point in 8'00 Virgo - an auxilliary ascendant
square 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd
sextile/trine Heliocentric Jupiter Nodes in 10'10 Cancer/Capricorn in 10th/4th - associations,connections with expansion,judgment
semisextile/quincunx Geocentric North Neptune Node in 9'35 Aquarius in 10th
(I was born on the 29th, and that is considered a master number which indicate great potential but great challenges, in Chaldean Numerology, it's considered the number of Job which means that it involves trials,tribulations if dealt with integrity,there is a great reward just like with Job in the Bible....my Expression is 14/5.....14 is karmic debt number associated with issues involving freedom)

Geocentric North Karma Node in 15'01 Aquarius
conjunct Vertex(fated relationships) in 14'58 Aquarius in 5th
oppose Ceres(nurturing,mother) in 13'57 Leo in 11th
trine Geocentric North Uranus Node in 15'46 Gemini in 10th - present associations,connections with unpredictability,liberation

Geocentric South Karma Node in 23'24 Virgo in 1st
sextile/trine Heliocentric Saturn Nodes in 23'26 Cancer/Capricorn in 11th/5th - assocations,connections with discipline,structure

My mother's natal chart
ANGEL NODES:
Heliocentric Angel Nodes in 2'31 Virgo/Pisces in 3rd/9th
(Sabian Symbol 3 Virgo...Two Guardian Angels "invisible help and protection in times of crisis....that's very synchronisitic for the Heliocentric North Angel Node happens to be located in the Guardian Angel degree)
sextile/trine Karma in 3'09 Cancer in 1st
trine/sextile Saturn in 3'04 Scorpio Retrograde in 5th
square Geocentric North Mars Node in 2'30 Gemini in 12th - past associations with violence,passion
sextile/trine North Karma Node in 3'20 Aries in 10th
(this seems to indicate divine protection for her me related to violence...note: my Moon in 3'10 Pisces forms a very close grand trine with her Saturn trine Karma reflecting a very strong karmic connection and squares her North Mars Node reflecting the violence that I experienced with her and from her in this lifetime)

Geocentric North Angel Node in 18'26 Leo in 3rd
conjunct Gunnie in 18'55 Leo in 3rd
square chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square heliocentric Mercury Nodes in 17'47 Taurus - associations,connections with communications
square Vertex(fated relationships) in 19'02 Scorpio in 3rd
square heliocentric Mars Nodes in 19'12 Taurus/Scorpio in 11/5th - associations,connections with violence,passion
semisextile Geocentric North Pluto Node in 18'59 Cancer in 2nd - present associations,connections with intensity,transformation
(this seems to indicate divine protection from gun violence that involve me and her......note:my chart ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio conjuncts her chart ruler Moon-Vertex and squares her Gunnie-North Angel Node...so it adds to the case...both her chart ruler Moon and my Chart ruler Mercury are conjunct/oppose the heliocentric Mercury and Mars Nodes...she and I had a volatile relationship including us arguing a lot with each other and her being verbally and physically abusive towards me)

Geocentric South Angel Node in 23'05 Pisces in 10th
trine/sextile Heliocentric Saturn Nodes in 23'14 Cancer/Capricorn in 1st - associations,connections with structure,discipline
sextile Chiron in 23'01 Libra in 8th
quincunx 10th house ruler Neptune in 23'25 Libra Retrograde in 5th
(this seems like divine protection of me and her from death....also note: her 10th house is involved..when she was a kid, she wanted to be a nun...it's good that didn't happen or else I wouldn't be born..hahahahaha....note: my mother's Neptune squares the the heliocentric Saturn Nodes, and I have Saturn oppose Neptune)

GUNN NODES:
Heliocentric Gunn Nodes in 5'04 Aries/Libra in 10th/4th
oppose/conjunct Geocentric North Gunnie Node in 5'46 Libra in 4th
square Jupiter in 4'29 Cancer in 1st
square South Venus Node in 5'51 Cancer in 1st - past assocations with love,relationships
square Mars in 5'48 Capricorn Retrograde in 7th

Geocentric North Gunn Node in 25'23 Aries in 11th
12th/5th house ruler Venus in 25'04 Cancer in 2nd
Geocentric South Saturn Node in 26'32 Capricorn in 8th - past assocations,connections with discipline,structure
(T-Square of North Gunn Node square Venus-South Saturn Node opposition....after my mom was shot, my stepfather who was 25 years older than my mother would visit her in the hospital frequently, he took advantage of her vulnerable state and talked her into moving in with him,offering her security to help take care of her and me...they got married 3 years later, it was a very abusive,controlling relationship which led to me being abused and controlled by both of them,and it lasted until I was 18 years old....that's how much the shooting changed things.....note: her Venus opposes South Saturn Node in Capricorn which indicates love,relationships with much older partners, and this was definitely the case with her...also my father was 13 years older than her,and he had Sun-Mercury in Capricorn)

Geocentric South Gunn Node in 6'26 Virgo in 4th
trine Mars in 5'48 Capricorn Retrograde in 7th
sextile Geocentric South Venus Node in 5'51 Cancer in 1st - past associations with love,relationships
square Karma in 6'34 Gemini in 12th

GUNNIE NODES:
Heliocentric Gunnie Nodes in 26'58 Aries/Libra in 11th/5th
conjunct Geocentric North Gunnie Node in 25'23 Aries in 11th
square Chiron in 27'45 Capricorn Retrograde in 8th
square Venus in 25'04 Cancer
(this indicate being a gunshot victim was a major wound that affected her,me,and her relationships)

Geocentric North Gunnie Node in 11'34 Taurus in 11th
square Heliocentric Neptune Nodes in 11'16 Leo/Aquarius in 2nd/8th - associations,connections with dissolution,deception
quincunx South Mars Node in 10'55 Libra in 4th - past associations,connections with violence,passion
(this seems to fit with the schizophrenic gunman)

Geocentric South Gunnie Node in 5'46 Libra in 4th
square Geocentric South Venus Node in 5'51 Cancer in 1st - past associations,connections with love,relationships
trine Angel in 6'34 Gemini in 12th
(this seems to indicate divine protection when it comes to gun violence which affected her relationships)

KARMA NODES:
Heliocentric Karma Nodes in 8'57 Pisces/Virgo in 10th/4th
conjunct/oppose Midheaven in 8'57 Pisces
quincunx/sextile North Neptune Node in 9'49 Leo in 2nd
(There is no doubt that my mom lives a very karmic life....my mom has a hard life including being shot, never knowing her mother who didn't want her in the first place, been in 13 foster homes,lost her father to suicide,had a son that she was forced to give up for adoption,had a child that had special education needs(me),and an abusive marriage,and a dysfunctional/codependent relationship with my father that produced me........she has a 11 Lifepath,22 Expression,and was born on 13th,one of the karmic debt numbers....note. my East point conjuncts her Midheaven,...of course, both my East Point and her Midheaven conjunct/oppose the Karma Nodes and my 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter squares it.)

Geocentric North Karma Node in 3'20 Aries in 10th
square Karma in 3'09 Cancer in 1st
sextile North Mars Node in 2'30 Gemini in 12th - present associations with violence,aggression
quincunx Saturn in 3'05 Scorpio Retrograde in 5th
(Yod of Saturn quincunx North Karma Node-North Mars Node sextile.......seem like fated karmic relationship involving violence)

Geocentric South Karma Node in 20'05 Leo in 3rd
semisextile South Pluto Node in 20'27 Capricorn in 5th
square Vertex in 19'02 Scorpio in 5th
square chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th

COMPOSITE CHART OF MY MOTHER AND ME

our composite:
Gunnie in 26'07 Leo in 1st
conjunct Sun in 28'40 Leo in 1st
trine Midheaven in 25'06 Aries

Gunn in 17'20 Leo in 1st
conjunct Saturn in 19'06 Leo R in 1st
conjunct Karma in 18'14 Leo in 1st
sextile Angel in 17'08 Gemini in 11th

TRANSITS OF THE NIGHT OF THE SHOOTING - I did it for 7:30 PM...I just know that it was in the evening...we were watching a game show called "Name That Tune"

Transiting Gunnie in 27'56 Leo
conjunct our composite Sun in 28'40 Leo in 1st
quincunx/semisextile composite Lunar Nodes in 27'42 Capricorn/Cancer
quincunx my mother's Chiron in 27'45 Capricorn Retrograde in 8th
sextile my Angel in 27'42 Gemini Retrograde in 10th

Transiting Gunn in 28'34 Aries Retrograde
square our composite Lunar Nodes in 27'42 Capricorn/Cancer
square my mother's Chiron in 27'45 Capricorn Retrograde in 8th
trine our composite Sun in 28'40 Leo in 1st
sextile my Angel in 27'42 Gemini Retrograde in 10th

Transiting Gunnie and Gunn were in a minor grand trine with my Angel in 27'42 Gemini
(I was not physically harmed by gun violence like my mother was)

Transiting Angel in 19'37 Scorpio
conjunct my mother's Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
conjunct my mother's Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
conjunct my Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd
conjunct my Mercury/Venus midpoint in 20'03 Scorpio
conjunct my Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd
square my mother's Gunnie in 18'56 Leo in 3rd

SOLAR ARCS:

my solar arcs:
Solar Arc Angel in 00'42 Cancer
square my Pluto in 00'51 Libra in 1st

My mother's Solar Arcs:
Solar Arc Gunnie in 8'22 Virgo
oppose her Midheaven in 8'57 Pisces
oppose her Heliocentric Karma Nodes in 8'57 Pisces/Virgo

Solar Arc Karma in 22'35 Cancer
square her Neptune in 23'24 Libra Retrograde in 5th

Asteroid Astrology is amazing. It really finetunes and give more detail. The Asteroids and the nodes seem to work in Astrology. Also the Sabian Symbol for Heliocentric North Angel Node is highly synchronicistic. The Sabian Symbols have amazing insight,and I was skeptical of them for years.

note: if you have any hard gunnie,gunn aspects, don't worry. It doesn't mean that you are going to be involved in gun violence. It could just be that you could watch a lot of it on tv or in the movies like action films. I like action films myself.

my 10 minute of arc Moon in Pisces oppose Gunnie could just me playing with a water gun...hahahahaha

besides, free will is the ultimate factor

If you know somebody that was involved in gun violence, then looking at these asteroids could get very interesting.