posted November 17, 2008 07:13 AM         

I am a spiritual person and I was wondering if praying to the universe and asking for spiritual guidance can prevent bad transits from hurting me? I have some nasty transits coming up over the next couple of years, including the one mentioned above, and do feel scared.

I’m not a strong person, and the smallest problems can have a terrible emotional impact on me which takes me years to recover from. I suffer from OCD and have lots of other fears, which can be quite crippling sometimes. I'm just hoping God will help me survive.

My dob is 22 October 1978, London, England, 12:30am

Chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&&cid=m12fileQq7nFk-u1226924212

Miss Mystic

Sun Libra 28°12'42 in house 4 direct
Moon Cancer 5°51'54 in house 11 direct
Mercury Scorpio 12°03'45 in house 4 direct
Venus Scorpio 22°30'58 in house 4 retrograde
Mars Scorpio 22°06'52 in house 4 direct
Jupiter Leo 7°09'15 in house 12 direct
Saturn Virgo 10°29'04 in house 2 direct
Uranus Scorpio 15°34'43 in house 4 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 16°20'20 in house 5 direct
Pluto Libra 17°03'36 in house 3 direct
True Node Virgo 26°16'11 in house 3 retrograde

House positions
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Ascendant Leo 12°34'23
2nd House Virgo 0°07'01
3rd House Virgo 22°58'44
Imum Coeli Libra 24°10'27
5th House Sagittarius 3°58'00
6th House Capricorn 12°36'27
Descendant Aquarius 12°34'23
8th House Pisces 0°07'01
9th House Pisces 22°58'44
Medium Coeli Aries 24°10'27
11th House Gemini 3°58'00
12th House Cancer 12°36'27

posted November 17, 2008 08:04 AM         

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I will avoid getting pregnant during those years in case my relationship goes sour and I end up on my own with a baby

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Is this because you think you couldn't cope? Or because you don't want to have a children outside of a stable relationship?

I don't think astrology can make major life decisions for you, and often, at least so I find, transits and progression don't always work out the way you think they might.

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I suffer from OCD

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Please forgive my bluntness, but how is this going to work out with motherhood? Kids will turn your house upside down. Aside from which you can't be sure everything will go smoothly. If you are lucky and everything goes well, how are you going to cope with someone else to worry about if you are already crippled with fear?

posted November 17, 2008 08:18 AM         

Transits will come and go, but you decide how much they "hurt" you. As my fave Zen quote goes "Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional".

Yes, I think praying can help you navigate thru hard times if you have the right outlook.

posted November 17, 2008 08:21 AM         

I think I would actually make a good mother and children seem to be drawn to me - I guesss it's because I can be a little goofy (Leo Ascendant). I don't want my OCD to get in the way of me starting a family one day. I'd prefer to raise a child in a joint union rather than on my own, but if I was faced with being a lone parent I do think I could cope.

posted November 17, 2008 08:41 AM         

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I’m not a strong person, and the smallest problems can have a terrible emotional impact on me which takes me years to recover from. I suffer from OCD and have lots of other fears, which can be quite crippling sometimes. I'm just hoping God will help me survive.

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if I was faced with being a lone parent I do think I could cope

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posted November 17, 2008 09:00 AM         

I think deep down I do have an inner strength, I wouldn't be alive if I didn't! However sometimes I do allow things to get on top of me and feel worse than they actually are. I have a tendancy to worry too much about what other people think of me and I've always had a need to be liked.

I think I have become too engrossed in astrology but ever since I was little I've had a need to make sense of the world - life, death, pyschic experiences and the existence of God. Astrology is my latest vice in helping me understand these things. My soul is on a journey like your's and everyone else's but I it's important for me to know why I am here.

posted November 17, 2008 09:59 AM         

Looking at your chart nothing really astrologically even shows you have OCD.

You chart ruler the sun is good in the 3rd house trine you sun which is in its happy place in cancer. Its trine all your nice scorpio placements. Jupiter is in the 12 th but who cares jupiter is great eiher way according to astrology. It can just mean excess of something and in this case its square your sun so you may be a bit overweight but overall it makes u very spiritual as well.

Its a good place in the 12th because it helps you mentally. 12th house is institutions also.

Everything may even be a coincidence or because we deal with this everyday it may be we think too much about it and then when something happens were like "Yep it was uranus or yeah that was the work or pluto"..

I wouldnt take it so seriously cause it messes my head too.

I suffer from anxiety and i have no indicators of that in my natal chart. They might pin it on my gemini moon that it makes me nervous or they might say that your cancer moon makes u too sensitive or someone with aries moon or maybe someone with scorpio moon thinks too deep or someone with cappy moon needs to control so they may have anxiety.. SEE HOW IT CAN BE TWISTED A MILLION WAYS?

Dont stress and dont worry. when pluto opposed my moon my mum kicked me out of home and i moved overseas. Ive done this plenty of times my whole life and pluto was only opposite my moon that time for 2 years.. please explain the other 10 years. And guess what? I have pluto and saturn trine my moon. I would like to think that gives me stability to do with my mum and home and females.

I have traits of every star sign. I never identify myself as a cancerian because im not highly emotional as i should be with all my cancer planets, im not clingy, im not into my past or family, yes im obsessed with my home because im a girl and i take pride in creating something. I have mood swings but thats not ASTROLOGY thats called HORMONES and every girl has them.

What im trying to prove here is nothing is going to come out of it. And worrying about this stuff just makes people paranoid.

Think about it honestly. Its not like you only have relationship problems when your venus is getting effected by transit. It happens all the time. We just take more notice of it when were always analysing our charts.

THIS IS JUST FOR FUN

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 17, 2008 11:39 AM         

The main thing about that transit is that it's about resolving emotional issues and getting rid of the "trash". Pluto is the planet of elimination and not just transformation. It's the planet of death,but not necessarily in the literal sense but in the figurative sense. If you know about tarot cards,the Death card doesn't necessarily mean death. It's all about transformation. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Transformation is about a deep,soul reaching life change. That can be a good thing. I think that everything can be good. I believe that good things can come from bad things.

like you told me before,you have serious issues with your mother in regards to how she can't let you go and want to run your life and doesn't want you to be in a relationship with a man because she hates men. I told you about the Ceres/Demeter,Pluto/Hades,Proserpina/Persephone stuff which is all about the mother-daughter issue. I also pointed out that you happen to have a prominent Proserpina with it conjunct your Sun and have a very close Ceres square Pluto. That fits right in with the archetypal symbolism discussed. It's amazing.

so the transiting Pluto in 5th oppose Moon doesn't have to be a bad thing. It can be about resolving issues that you have with your mother. It could be like confronting your mother in regards to your romantic relationships.

posted November 17, 2008 11:43 AM         

...I prefer cosmobiology which focuses on hard aspects and midpoint configurations...those are used to check out health problems.
I don't like using sign and house placements in medical Astrology. I focus on planetary geometry.

The signs are how the energy is expressed.
The houses are where the energy is expressed.
The aspects are the mutual exchanges of planetary energies.

posted November 17, 2008 02:31 PM         

no interpretations for signs and houses

I am doing it the Medical Cosmobiological way.

the first thing that I noticed in the midpoint tree is your Sun is conjunct your Saturn/Neptune midpoint with only 11 minutes of arc.

Saturn/Neptune midpoint is considered the the point that is associated with chronic illness. It is also associated with immune system issues. It could just be a sensitive immune system. It is also common in depression/anxiety issues,phobias just like hard Saturn/Neptune aspects are

I know about this midpoint personally. I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of arc, and it's because I have a t-square of Moon squares my Saturn-Neptune opposition. Tight t-squares have corresponding midpoint pictures of the apex in conjunction or opposition to the midpoint....it depends on the waxing,waning positions.

all the things mentioned apply to me. it also seems to reflect my mother who has all those issues too. After all,moon is the mother.

but it also means that I can empathize easily with others who are suffering,sick,and have problems in general...it has to do with compassion,empathy.

in the medical astrology book, Medical Astrology Healing for the 21st Century by Marcia Stark,
Moon = Saturn/Neptune - disorder of female organs;emotional depression;ability to channel emotions into higher states
(my mother had cervical cancer and had hysterectomy at the age of 23 , and so that one hits home....emotional depression,ability to channel emotions into higher states are also true for both of us)

now it's not all bad. Saturn/Neptune midpoint as well as other Saturn-Neptune configurations indicate the need to keep idealism,spirituality grounded. It can be about materialism,realism vs. spiritualism and idealism. For me, it even works that I discipline myself from drugs,alcohol. I don't drink any alcohol since 1999,and I have never done drugs.

the one thing too I should mention with hard Neptune aspects and Neptune midpoint configurations, there can be a hypersensitivity to medications. Therefore there a smaller dosage could be needed. It would be better to have more natural methods of healing. It can also indicate misdiagnoses. All this is true is true for me with my hard Neptune aspects,Neptune midpoint configurations.

with Sun involved, it can indicate experiences with sadness,disappoint with men..including especially the father. I also wonder if you had significantly troubling experiences with them in the past, especially connected to health issues (Saturn/Neptune midpoint)also..your Saturn squares Neptune too, and some astrologers say that Saturn also indicates the father and that Saturn square Neptune can indicate some problems with father connected to idealism,escapism,being confusing,or being absent in some way. I have Saturn oppose/contraparallel Neptune,and well..I never knew my father because he had a drug problem.
Also Sun is vitality,the heart, and so there can be possible issues with those.

in the Medical Astrology book ,
Sun = Saturn/Neptune - Health problems throughout the life;the person may be involved with healing

Your midpoints show a more clearer picture

Your Venus-Mars conjunction happens to be conjunct the Sun/Neptune midpoint

Your Venus is conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint with 14 minutes of arc,and this indicates that love and expression of sensitivity,idealism are strongly connected
you have to make sure that you're realistic about your love,relationships.....this suggests capability for art too....this can be somebody who is very attractive in ethereal way...like with all Neptune midpoint configurations,there is a potential for hypersensitivity to medications

Your Mars is conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint with 9 minutes of arc, and that indicates that your physical energy is linked to expression of sensitivity,idealism. You have to make sure that you're realistic about your motivations and men in your life...this can be good for creativity.

I also have to be honest with you, The Sun/Neptune midpoint has reputation for being trouble...it's considered a point of weakness from a medical standpoint

so Mars,the planet of muscular system conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint can indicate possible weakness involving the muscles. Also..Mars-Neptune configurations could indicate the possibility of having problems with getting infections easily.

with your Venus-Mars conjunct the Sun/Neptune midpoint,I would say there could be a possibility of issues with reproductive system which is some astrologers would say could easily be shown by your Venus-Mars conjunction in Scorpio,the sign associated with reproductive system. Also....because Sun/Neptune midpoint has to do with hypersensitivity, it's possible that any medications that you take can give you sexual side effects or effect your glandular system in some way. Venus is the planet associated with glands in medical astrology.

I know about this midpoint personally. I have Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint with 14 minutes of arc, and it indicates a hypersensitive nervous system as well as issues with nervous system and possible speech defects. This is true for me with my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia which required special education therapies to correct. but it also means that I have a highly imaginative,visualiziing,intuitive type of mind which fits with the strengths of Dyslexia. Like Dyslexics,I think mainly in pictures,visualizing things in my minds eye nonstop,and can visualize things in 3D,seeings things from multiple perspectives(even moving my minds eye to the point that I can visualize myself doing things like I am seeing myself in the mirror), so I have very strong visual-spatial skills. That's probably why I like geometry in Astrology. check this out. My Geometria(an asteroid) is in close semisquare to my Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint which can indicate strong visual spatial skills good for geometry. I also Mercury parallel Neptune,Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint, Mercury/Uranus midpoint conjunct Neptune/Pluto midpointNeptune in 3rd too...so I have an unusually strong Mercury/3rd-Neptune theme. Even my 3rd house ruler(Pluto)sextiles Neptune. I even have Mercury in Scorpio in the Pisces decanate. Neptune rules Pisces.

With all that Neptune stuff, I'd stay away from drugs and alcohol if I were you because of extreme body sensitivity to them. That's how I am with all my strong Neptune stuff.

Your midpoint tree also shows the issues of your mother

Your Saturn conjuncts Moon/Uranus midpoint with 14 minutes of arc. This indicates structure,discipline in connection with emotional independence. This indicates that you probably felt held back by your mother who seemed controlling,and you so you feel the need to break away from her. This configuration also indicates emotional,nervous tension as well as irritability. Uranus rules the higher nervous system and electrical impulses. It is related to spasms,cramps,shocks,and paralysis. Saturn has to do with inhibitions,blockages. Moon is the planet of bodily fluids,stomach,the female reproductive system too,and so that can issues with those connected to nervous tension. The good thing about this configuration is that you can you be disciplined,realistic about changes in your life as well as there is opportunity to keep your unpredictable moods in check.

Your Pluto conjuncts Venus/Saturn midpoint with 33 minutes of arc indicate that intensity,transformation are in connection with discipline,structured love life,and relationships. This midpoint configuration is an indicator for possible reproductive problems connected glandular,hormone imbalances. Pluto rules the reproductive system and excretory system. There is a possibility that these can be connected to resentment and holding onto stuff that needs to be released. The good thing about this configuration is that you're capable of deep,serious love. It's good for being realistic about relationships. Reality checks in lovelife is typical of this configuration.

Your Pluto conjuncts Mars/Saturn midpoint with 53 minutes of arc indicate that intensity,transformation are in connection with discipline,structured physical activity. This also can issues with the reproductive system with Pluto ruling the reproductive system.

Mars/Saturn midpoint refer to the structure as well as the inhibition or restriction of some bodily function.
Pluto rules the reproductive system and excretory system....so Pluto conjunct Mars/Saturn midpoint could indicate inhibition or restriction involving the reproductive system and excretory system

in the book,
Pluto = Mars/Saturn - serious defects in body structure,such as missing organs or limbs; transformation of body structure through exercise and other physical therapies
(keep in mind that the bad stuff doesn't have to manifest)

Your Node conjunct Moon/Neptune midpoint with 10 minutes of arc. This can indicate associations,connections with sensitive but also weak women including especially the mother. It can indicate sensitive emotional connections. The nodes are of the Moon are extremely important in the chart. The nodes are associated with emotional vulnerability and sensitivity...so with Moon/Neptune midpoint,the emotional sensitivity midpoint conjunct your node,it would indicate a strong emphasis on emotional vulnerability,sensitivity. This configuration can indicate possible fluid imbalances. Moon/Neptune midpoint is associated with bodily fluids...especially the Moon. This configuration can be good for empathy,compassion.

Your Moon square Pluto/Node midpoint with 47 minutes of arc.
This indicates emotions,feelings,mother involve intense,transformational associations,connections. There is a possibility of obsessive,resentful feelings that involving holding onto stuff. Moon is the bodily fluids, and Pluto has to do with the reproductive and excretory systems. and Node is sensitivity and emotional vulnerability. This would indicate a possibility of reproductive,excretory system issues that could be connected to emotional vulnerability,sensitivity. This could indicate women that are like that too,especially your mother. This could be good for penetrating,psychological insight into emotional world as well strong emotional focus.

Your Uranus squares Moon/Node midpoint with 29 minutes of arc. This indicates unpredictability,independence involving connections with women,especially the mother. This can unpredictable moods. It can also indicate nervous tension connected to emotional stress(Moon/Node is extreme sensitivity,vulnerability) which could be due from associating with certain people.

Your Pluto semisquare Sun/Moon midpoint with 1 minute of arc. The Sun/Moon midpoint is one of the most important midpoints. You're pretty much a Plutonian with this configuration - transformation,intensity a major theme in your life. Sun/Moon is the relationship,marriage midpoint. - the combination of masculine and feminine energies. It has to do with vitality/emotions. This configuration has to with intensity,transformation involving relationships,marriage,vitality,and emotions. There can be a possibility of obsessive,resentful feelings that involving holding onto stuff. Sun/Moon equals the basic vitality and balance of bodily fluids with Pluto involved, it can be connected to reproductive system and excretory system.
The good thing about this configuration is penetrating,psychological insight into the emotional world,willpower as well as strong emotional focus.

Your Moon semisquare Neptune/Midheaven midpoint with 36 minutes of arc, and that indicates a sensitive,emotional soul in general. With any Neptune configuration,there could be a hypersensitivity to medications. There can also be some issues with bodily fluids. The good thing is empathy,compassion.

I see some planets aspecting more than one midpoint which indicates a significant theme

Your Pluto = Venus/Saturn = Mars/Saturn = Sun/Moon
this is seems to put much emphasis on the things that I told you about your Pluto conjunct Venus/Saturn,Mars/Saturn,semisquare Sun/Moon

Also Pluto has to with the ability to transform our emotions and desires, it also has to do with transformation of our cells, which some times results in life or death.

I was wondering if there is a history of cancer in your family...especially connected to reproductive issues. Astrologers would notice that with your Venus-Mars in Scorpio (reproduction) in 4th house (ancestral roots). Also the fixed star,Unukalhai is conjunct that. It's a Mars/Saturn star,and it could relate to reproductive issues. I am not too crazy about having my Venus in Scorpio conjunct that star either. problems with love has been an issue with me which that star is said to be about. the problems of love can be connected to hormonal issues. I have hormonal imbalances(high estrogen,lower than average testosterone). I did a chart of a hermaphrodite,and his Mars conjuncts that star. so Unukalhai might be involved with reproductive issues. When I first knew about that star,I thought it had to with eunuchs. I wasn't crazy about finding that star on my Venus,but I am not into sex a lot like many guys are.

Your Moon = Pluto/Node = Neptune/Midheaven
this seems to put much emphasis on the things that I told you about your Moon square Pluto/Node,semisquare Neptune/Midheaven
There could be a potential for psychological,emotional problems..but it can also be emotional attunement to subtleties.....Neptune-Pluto in Cosmobiology is known as a supernatural configuration. Of course, psychiatrists see these kinds of things as signs of schizophrenia. It's all about how it's perceived.

I also wonder with your close Ceres-Pluto square that you have any eating,food issues. Ceres relates to food,eating. Difficult Ceres aspects can indicate possibility of somebody punished as a child by holding back meals as well as nurturing. Eating disorders are possible with this aspect too.
remember the theme of Ceres is the mother-daughter,empty nest issues,problem letting her child go to live her own life.

You are currently having transiting Neptune squaring your your Venus-Mars conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint,and that can indicate the issues of Venus-Mars conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint are enhanced.

the following are from the medical astrology book. Please keep in mind that these are only possibilities. They don't necessarily mean that these things will happen. That is something that you should consider about any transit. ....so keep that in mind when you read any cookbook interpretations when it comes to astrological configurations.

anything in parentheses is my personal input.

With transits of Neptune, there is a greater tendency to disease and infection. Since Neptune rules the immune system, susceptibility to toxins become stronger. One is also more predisposed to develop symptoms that are difficult to diagnose. It is important to meditate during this transit in order to gain clarity.

Malfunctions in the metabolism often develop during Neptune's transits.

Sensitivity to the outside world makes one feel more reclusive during Neptune transits and often one builds up anxieties and fears. The wearing of crystals and other gems may prove helpful in neutralizing any negative energy. One should be careful to take additional protective measures in doing any kind of healing work or spiritual readings.

Caution should also be exercised regarding the use of drugs,chemical or recreational,as well as alcohol. Habit patterns that are started during Neptune transits may be difficult to break. Treating ailments with natural substances is best.

Transiting Neptune squaring Venus can indicate possible problems with the thyroid;the metabolism can also be thrown off with subsequent sugar imbalance. Curb any tendency to overindulge in sweets and alcohol at this time. It is important to eat alkaline foods such as whole grains,vegetables,some fish,or organic poultry if desired, and eliminate most fruits and acidic foods. This transit can indicate the body more acidic and prone to candida and herpes infections.

Transiting Neptune squaring Mars can indicate on occasion, anemic conditions. Foods rich in iron such as organic beef and veal liver,wheatgrass,beets,dulse and sea vegetables should be increased, as well as nettle leaf tea. infections that have been difficult to diagnose and cure can begin under this transit.

Transiting Pluto often indicates a time of transformation of health patterns and diet. Through some illness or physical breakdown, one is forced through a period of purification and purging, a rebirth on a physiological level. Surgery, involving the removal of one part of the body with another organ taking over that process,often occurs. Many women have undergone hysterectomies,especially with Pluto squaring it's natal position

(My mom has Moon in Scorpio square Pluto,and she had hysterectomy because of her cervical cancer, and she was 23 at the time. I was around 6 years old. ...my mother also experienced a tramatic experience of being shot when she was 19 years old, I was almost 3 years old..I was with her...I have Moon quincunx Pluto)....note these are extreme...this stuff doesn't necessarily happen to people with Moon-Pluto aspects.

Hidden transformations in the body that have not manifested physiologically prior to this time often come to the surface. The reproductive system is often involved under Pluto transits,with infection and diseases prevalent. Problems with the excretory system may also manifest at this time.

Transiting Pluto oppose your Moon may indicate digestive disturbances (Moon governs the stomach) and require a change of diet. Transits of Pluto to the Moon can also indicate aggravation of allergies since he Moon rules fluids and mucous. Under Moon-Pluto transits,miscarriages and stillbirths have occurred. As Pluto rules birth and death, many situations are possible which force the individual to undergo some kind of transformative process.

Keep in mind that many health problems can be prevented by taking good care of your health...especially eating right,getting good amount of sleep,and exercise. Of course,relax and take it easy....stress is known to weaken the immune system. That's why Neptune rules sensitivity,weakness,immunity.

That's where free will comes in.

Remember my advice....take it easy and don't stress..keep in control....that's the most important thing that you have to do with transiting Pluto oppose Moon. I believe that you should do whatever you can resolve any psychological,emotional issues,especially the ones connecting to your mother.

btw....I have been interested in Medical Astrology since 2000. I have very little interest in zodiac signs and house placements when it comes to Medical Astrology. I trust hard aspects(conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,and sesquiquadrate) and midpoint configurations far more when it comes to checking out potential health problems in the chart. The planetary geometry is far more important IMHO.

some of the medical astrology stuff that I have:

Eileen Nauman's Medical Astrology book
Marcia Starck's Medical Astrology Healing of the 21st Century
Noel Tyl's Timing of Critical Illness

I also have a Cosmobiology Health Report Program.

Ruth Brummond's Rulebook has Medical Astrology interpretations

I used to have Ebertin's Combination Of Stellar Influences (COSI),and it has a lot of medical astrology information in there. I strongly recommend that book. I lent it to somebody,but I didn't bother to get it back. Ruth Brummond's interps are good.

Raymond

posted November 17, 2008 02:45 PM         

the advice above about pluto bringing change is good. bad stuff can happen ALL around you but "suffering is optional". with OCD you probably take that option more often than you need to. but awareness is the first step to healing.

people have kids under every possible transit. do not wait till the planets are "right" or "nonthreatening" because you will see as you go along that "there's always something" and "the right moment never comes" if you are waiting to live your life until it does. if you become a single parent you will DEAL. i am sure you will also discover that parenting is a fantastic healing situation. not that you should turn your kids into your healers, but you will grow with them and discover the magic of life and that may even help you let go of some of your compulsions. i would suggest that you try not to pass them on to your kids!! that may also help you get a handle on them.

posted November 17, 2008 03:43 PM         

You can't be afraid of living because whatever is going to happen, will happen anyway.

Right now you have Pluto transiting your 5th house and it's been there for quite while so by now it's a way of life. Pluto is happy in the 5th house it's exalted here.

With some transits especially involving the Moon an event will happen like to your Mother (Moon) and you will deal with the way that makes you feel. It doesn't have to be directly to you, it just has to effect you.

Sincere prayers are always good for a 12th house Jupiter as it keeps you in touch with your faith which is so necessary for this placement. Have some faith in you.

Go out there and do your best, and everything will fall into place.

posted November 17, 2008 07:00 PM         

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 17, 2008 07:27 PM         

also....it doesn't necessarily have to be a transit. There are also solar arcs and secondary progressions to consider

also midpoints transits,solar arcs,and secondary progressions can be involved

there are also declinations...parallels and contraparallels are aspects too. they are regularly used in cosmobiology...that includes the midpoints too

also...there are possibibilities of miscarriage with the Pluto-Moon...just because you didn't have a miscarriage with that transit doesn't necessarily mean that othersdon't,

like I said...the transits only tell about possibilities...they don't tell about something that is going to happen

transits work in all kinds of way that fit with the energy of the planets involved. whether good or bad...that depends on the individual's choices,decisions,and actions.

I also stressed that free will is the ultimate factor and that includes involves taking care of one's health.

a lot of health problems can be avoided if health is taken care of.

also you have to consider the natal dynamics too...not just the transits. If there shows a predisposition for certain issues,it could be reflected in the natal chart. Transits to the natal chart are only temporary celestial energy exchange events. The natal planet energies aren't temporary. There will often be a predisposition aspect and it will be triggered by a transit that can be in synchronicity with these issues coming out.

for example, somebody has a Moon oppose Pluto in their chart which could indicate a potential reproductive problems....well transiting Saturn square that opposition for a t-square could be in synchronicity with the potential reproductive problems actually manifesting.

a lot of times...there will be a transit in a synchronicity with the development of an issue but it is not a trigger transit to the natal planet. But it can be an affinity transit. for instance somebody has Mercury square Uranus which can indicate potential for nervous disorder, and he/she has transiting Uranus square the Midheaven which is considered the most important and personal point in Cosmobiology, then there is a possibility of the predisposition of the nervous disorder to manifest.

that's how transits work. also secondary progressions and solar arcs work that way too.

Astrology works because of synchronicity...not cause and effect

posted November 17, 2008 08:08 PM         

http://www.astroheal.com/articles/articles.html

Marcia Starck is my favorite medical astrologer http://www.earthmedicineways.com/books.html

posted November 18, 2008 12:30 AM         

So are u saying anyone with transits over any axis are likely to get a nervous disorder or an illness? Especially if it suares the moon? So everyone with moon on there IC AC DC or MC will all get sick and develop mental disorders?

Pluto MAY bring plutonian issues depending on the planet is transits and also which house that planet rules.

Saturn recently squared uranus ans jupiter in my chart, uranus rules my house of health and jupiter rules my third house.

Im very healthy thank god

Whos mother here has died during a pluto- moon transit? Or who has had other difficult times?

I just dont think people should worry about it because it never manifests in the way we think it will.

Everything becomes good in the end and is positive regardless of how stressful aspects are. ALL aspects are positive because even if something does happen it becomes a good thing.
Life is great no matter what, and if your suffering from OCD you probably know how precious life is and worry alot so enjoy it. Dont let negatyive thoughts take away your happiness.

I suffered from OCd for a while when the vet said my cat might have ringworms for 2 weeks i obsessively cleaned and sprayed glen 20 and i became paranoid about germs we couldnt see but 4 months later i got over it because i wasnt happy being that way and i knew i wasnt going to die from ringworms. After 2 weeks the vet said she didnt even have it, she was pulling her fur out from stress.
I even stopped using cash money because i used to think all junkies were snorting coccaine or something else by rolling up the money. LOL

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 18, 2008 01:19 AM         

Thanks...I really appreciate that. but, I am not here to debate. I was just trying to explain how the transits work as well as point that there are other event timing measurements such as solar arcs and secondary progressions.. Just because somebody doesn't have something happened in a certain transit doesn't rule out everybody else does and that the transit doesn't that work that way at all. That was my point. I try not to make blanket statements.
So are u saying anyone with transits over any axis are likely to get a nervous disorder or an illness? Especially if it suares the moon? So everyone with moon on there IC AC DC or MC will all get sick and develop mental disorders?
No...I didn't say that . . I was using that as an example in regards to an affinity transit in regards to an aspect that can indicate a predisposition for the problem. I already mentioned that. These things have happened, but it doesn't happen to everybody. I didn't say that everyone with moon on there IC,AC,DC,or MC will all get sick and develop mental disorders. I didn't use words like "will". Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't make actuality references. I made possibility references. I try to refrain from making blanket statements about transits,etc. I even said that transits can indicate numerous things that fit with the planetary energy. any ways... I am not here to debate. I was typing on this thread to help Mystic out with some insights into medical astrology.

"Pluto MAY bring plutonian issues depending on the planet is transits and also which house that planet rules. "
first of all, I don't like when people use caps to express a point, it comes off like telling me like I am stupid. I certainly don't do that in this forum.
like I said before when I did my medical astorlogy post, I don't focus on house planets nor house rulers.....I don't use signs nor houses when it comes to medical astrology. Like I said before, I focus on planetary geomety including the hard aspects like the cosmobiologists use. Cosmobiology is totally different from Regular Astrology. I don't care for regular astrology when it comes to medical astrological insights.
Saturn recently squared uranus ans jupiter in my chart, uranus rules my house of health and jupiter rules my third house.
very healthy thank god

"Whos mother here has died during a pluto- moon transit? Or who has had other difficult times? "
"I just dont think people should worry about it because it never manifests in the way we think it will. "
I agree with you with that people shouldn't worry about transits. I even told her that. I told her not to stress and take it easy. I told her that the main thing to handle the transit is to keep in emotional control as well as resolving any emotional issues including one's especially with the mother.
I just typed the possibilities of how the transits can manifest from a medical astrology standpoint...I was doing it from the cosmobiological perspective. I don't like using regular astrology when it comes to medical astrology...I believe that aspects and other geometrical configurations are more important than signs,houses in Astrology. Also..I believe that a lot of astrology needs to be updated because of the discoveries of Pluto's fellow kuiper belt objects. They could also be very significant including even Medical Astrology. They could be about transformation,elimination too...especially the Plutinos which have similar orbits like Pluto. I have other kuiper belt objects energy that is a lot stronger than Pluto. I had more significant transits involving the other kuiper objects than I did with Pluto. For instance when my maternal grandfather committed suicide, transiting Pluto was conjuncting my Jupiter which is my 4th house ruler within 1 degree, but transiting Eris was semisquare my Moon with 1 minute of arc. Also transiting Ixion was in t-square with my Moon square Varuna in a close orb. I even had transiting Varuna trine my Sun-Ixion conjunction. So I had a double whammy transit. That's very significant. Varuna and Ixion are kuiper belt objects like Pluto. Ixion is a plutino,and so it orbits like Pluto. I have Sun conj Ixion with 5 minutes of arc,and I have Moon square Varuna with 10 minutes of arc. I don't have any aspects involving Pluto that are strong as that.

I wouldn't say never about transiting Pluto-Moon transit ...some people have lost their mothers during a transit like that, but...let me make this clear and reiterate....it doesn't mean that everybody else will lose their mothers during that transit. I never even said anything about anybody losing their mother in this thread. I only pointed about possible issues in regards to confrontation with the mother...especially when she has a history of problems with in regards to plutonian-ceres-proserpina issues in regards to problems letting her go and not live her own life.
"Everything becomes good in the end and is positive regardless of how stressful aspects are. ALL aspects are positive because even if something does happen it becomes a good thing."
I agree. I even said before that good things can come from bad things. I made strong points earlier to her that they are not transits to fear. That they are just lessons..some hard and some easy, and that's with anything in life.
I have transiting Pluto in my 4th house squaring my Pluto in Libra in 1st house right now, and I am not worried about anything happening to me. If something happens to me, so what...crap happens. That's life. What doesn't kill can make me stronger. I have been through life/death situations before like when my mom was shot and I was with her at the time. I have no fear of my own physical death, and I will welcome when it's my time because I believe that there is life after death. For awhile,I was mourning the loss of my grandfather, but now I believe that he's in a much better place than here on Earth. I even believe that I could even meet him again in another life. Heck..he could even end up reincarnation as another family member like a son,daughter,grandson,granddaughter,. I know that with my Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio as well as the unusually strong Kuiper Belt energy that I have, transformation,intensity will always be a major part of my life. Instead of fighting to resist it, I should embrace it. The main thing is not to give up but keep on going and fighting. That's how I think these energies can be handled. They don't have to run away from out of fear. They can be confronted with courage. That can result being stronger.

posted November 18, 2008 02:07 AM         

Johannes Kepler who was an astrologer and not just an astronomer didn't believe in the use of zodiac signs and houses,and he even denounced them as Arabic Sorcery. The zodiac that we used now was developed by the Babylonians and refined by the Greeks. Kepler was the one that devised the first minor aspects to use in Astrology that include the quintile,biquintile,and sesquiquadrate. He believed in musical based harmonics,and that they apply to Astrology. There is harmonic astrological system being used now.

any ways.....those are reasons why I don't like using regular Astrology for Medical Astrology and prefer the highly geometrical based system,Cosmobiology for medical astrology insights..a system that doesn't depend on houses and zodiac signs.

I also want to reiterate that there are numerous astrological systems that can be very insightful. I am not into the "My Astrology is right,and yours is wrong" I stay way from Erisian things like that. I believe in diversity in Astrology. I believe that if an astrological system works for somebody,then it's ok to use it. I don't care if it's not a system that I use. I even respect Vedic Astrology,and I have studied it. It's a highly predictive system which I know would be highly criticized here. It's based on reincarnation,karmic theory. Speaking of that,I enjoy Evolutionary Astrology which also is also based on reincarnation,pastlives,soul evolution.

I just don't believe that Regular Astrology works well when it comes to Medical Astrology,and that's just my opinion. I believe that Cosmobiology works better because it's more scientific and geometrical based system. That's why I will only focus on hard aspects and midpoint configurations and not focus on signs nor houses. I will focus on not only transits,but also secondary progresions,solar arcs including midpoints,declinations.

that's all I have to say
to each,his/her own.

Cosmobiology

I need to introduce Cosmobiology to those of you who have yet to encounter it. Basically, it's a lot like astrology, but it works...All kidding aside, Cosmobiology is an astrological discipline developed largely by Rheinhold Ebertin and his collaborators and students in Germany. In addition to the attention that Ebertin’s work rapidly attracted here, Cosmobiology has been advanced in America by Eleanora Kimmel and others, including Chris Brooks and John Roberts Hawkins. They developed a rigorous set of techniques derived from the Hamburg school of Uranian Astrology (advanced by Alfred Witte), especially the use of midpoints, and traditional astrology. In my opinion, Ebertin dispensed with many of the more speculative dimensions of both the Hamburg School and traditional astrology to create a dynamic astrology that can be validated through research and application. A key factor in establishing Cosmobiology as a verifiable discipline is its reliance on a single text, The Combination of Stellar Influences by Reinhold Ebertin, as the basis of all interpretation. Initially, the reason for referring to a standard work was to codify astrological principles so that astrology could be taken seriously as a science. (In other words, it has reproducible results, regardless of the interpreter.).

Therefore, there should be core agreement and key dimensions of chart interpretation among all Cosmobiology practitioners. However, this does not preclude individual interpretative faculty. In my experience, sometimes it is necessary to look at the metaphoric implications of Ebertin’s interpretations, and, in very few cases, to realize that some of the definitions may have been influenced through the challenging historical and social circumstances in which Ebertin did his work.

Ebertin always pointed out, Cosmobiology alone cannot describe the scope of any one human life. We are all subject to unique factors of birth, such as the time in history, social class, heredity, and free will that have substantial influence on our lives. The cosmobiologist must factor these and other indicators (when known) in making his analysis.

Ebertin wrote this definition of Cosmobiology:

"Cosmobiology is a scientific discipline concerned with the possible correlation between the cosmos and organic life and the effects of cosmic rhythms and stellar motion on man, with all his potentials and dispositions, his character and the possible turns of fate; it also researches these correlation and effects as mirrored by earth's plant and animal life as a whole. In this endeavor, Cosmobiology utilises modern-day methods of scientific research, such as statistics, analysis, and computer programming. It is of prime importance, however, in view of the scientific effort expended, not to overlook the macrocosmic and microcosmic interrelations incapable of measurement."

Key characteristics of Cosmobiology include:

An initial natal chart or radix cast along the lines of sun sign astrology. (Generally, cosmobiologists use a tropical zodiac. Although there's no law I know of that forbids use of a sidereal zodiac.)
No house system is employed in analysis. (Although Ebertin did allow that a House system may be employed as a tool to amplify a cosmobiologist’s clairvoyant abilities.)
Angles, such as ascendant and Midheaven evaluated
4th harmonic charts, cosmograms, as principle diagnostic tools. (Cosmograms are divided in thirds of 30 degrees each, incorporating groupings cardinal, fixed and mutable signs.
Only hard aspects (Conjunction, opposition, square, semi square, sesquhadrate) used for analysis. (Quincunxes, although not technically hard aspects, are often included.)
Small orbs of influence
The use of a graphic ephemeris
Solar arc directions
Extensive use of midpoints in analysis
Midpoints merit definition. A midpoint exists equidistant between two planets on a 360-degree radius. It represents a unique sum of the energetic qualities of both planets. Both direct (the shortest distance between the two points) and indirect (the longer distance) midpoints are used and weighed equally. A planetary body occupying a midpoint or related to it by hard aspect experiences its unique influence.

In my experience, careful analysis of midpoint structures provides the most relevant and personal information about an individual. They are at least as important as aspects in developing a full personality profile. In many cases, a planet may be relatively unaspected but have a rich midpoint structure that integrates it with many of the planets in a chart. This can make a planet assume a role of much greater importance than cursory examination of a chart may suggest. One criticism of midpoint analysis is that many midpoints may provide conflicting statements. For instance a planet may be midpoint more than one combination of planets, and the combinations may have contradictory definitions. One can say that an individual is charismatic and enjoys attention. Another may say he is introverted and distrustful of people. I wish to point out that it is a rare individual who does not have conflicts. In my experience, the appearance of any positive character trait implies that existence of its opposite laying somewhere under the surface. Also, making sense of contradictory expressions in a chart is part of the job description of the Cosmobiologist. We must learn to synthesize complete pictures. Frequently a preponderance of midpoint structures and midpoint structures will suggest a definite trend, and it is necessary to balance interpretation in favor of the weight of evidence. Even though all cosmobiologists rely on The Combination of Stellar Influences, it is our own valuable experience, insight and creativity that teach us how to weigh individual factors.

Another obvious innovation of Cosmobiology is the cosmogram, the 90 degree dial. By effectively folding a 360 chart in fourth, a cosmogram makes it far easier to see aspects. It is particularly useful to rapidly identify transits and directions. In this case the natal placements are placed on the inner dial, while solar arc directions appear on the middle dial and transits on the outer dial. Transits appear directly next to or in direct opposition to the natal planets. (Keep in mind, only hard aspects are employed. Ebertin wrote that trines and sextiles may indicate open areas of life, but squares and oppostions indicate the tangible issues and events. In my experience, I have never seen a trine or sextile ever trigger a major life event. For instnace, on the day my father died, my mother had enough directed and transiting trines in her chart to suggest a lottery win to an astrologer who relies on soft aspects. None of these aspects cast any light on the events that were actually taking place for her. On a personal note, I do include quincunxes in my chart analysis. Ebertin and other cosmobiologists seem to agree that quincunxes do have measurable influences in analysis.)

Cosmobiology generally incorporates 10 planetary bodies, the Ascendant, Midheaven and lunar nodes that it refers to as the Dragon’s Head. Since they are in exact opposition both the South and North Nodes occupy the same space on a Cosmogram. There has been substantial research done on the midpoint structures of Chiron and Transpluto in recent years. They are frequently included in contemporary Cosmobiology analysis. I also look at the influence of the Part of Fate, the shadow moon Lilith, the asteroid Ceres in my own analysis.

Many areas of research remain open in Cosmobiology. Among these:

defining the midpoints for the aesteroids
the application of Cosmobiology to locational, mundane astrology, and financial astrology
identifying opportunities for treatment as well as disease onset as defined by midpoints
applying alternate progression methods, such as those studied by C.E.O. Carter, to the cosmogram
http://astromedicine.com/cosmobiology.htm