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MoonPixie
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posted November 17, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
i hate to bring negativity around, but this chick is really starting to TICK ME OFF. this is a somewhat drawn-out melodramatic story, but for the sake of background info i'll tell it:

we worked together at a temp summer job, and she's probably the ultimate epitome of EVERYTHING MOON PIXIE HATES IN THE WORLD.

i was never outwardly mean to her or did anything cruel. i was in fact nice to her in fear of angering her because she's one of those extremely emotional types - the type of person you'd rather be on their good side because you can't even fathom how emotionally unsteady they are when they're even slightly angry at you. she's also the queen bee type who bosses people around and even argued with our boss when she thought she was right and he was wrong (neither was right or wrong; she just wanted us to use her methods instead of our bosses because she wants control like that). at the same time, she tries very hard to get people to be her best friend because she demands "respect" (through fear, IMO) and wants everyone to love her. and if you don't "like" her, she'll make you're life a living hell for it. basically, she's a narcissistic control freak. i'm not exaggerating or being biased because she's been cruel to me. my intuition told me all these things about her before she started all her bullsht with me.

so i never really liked her or what she stood for or the way she treated her coworkers or her outward insecurity blatant, and i made it clear that i didn't intend on us being friends (was i so wrong for being honest?) although i was still respectful since we were coworkers and she has been temping at this place for a few years now. for a few weeks we kept it cool and never really talked but then she developed a crush on this guy at work (she has a boyfriend) and he and i were the closest amongst the temp workers. he and i were just friends, but she started to outwardly do these passive-aggressive things like yelling at me over little things that she would never care to yell at anyone else about. or running into me on purpose making me drop everything that i had. or if her crush and i were eating together her would try to sit directly between us and go as far as getting a chair and forcing it between us so she can sit... she wasn't very subtle about her crush... everyone knew it, it was sad to watch... even more pathetic when her boyfriend came to work one time to visit and completely ignored the guy she liked in front of him and then as soon as her boyfriend left she'd go off and tell her crush that she "needed private time" to talk to him BLAH BLAH BLAH you're the only one i trust BS BS BS . . .

later on, several of my co-workers warned me that she was complaining to all of them about how i'm never working hard enough and that she's suggesting to our boss that i get fired. i, of course, didn't get fired but she somehow convinced our boss to let her watch over me like a hawk just in case i do slack off. that was pretty much worst week of my summer. i felt like i was in high school again. eventually, work ended and i haven't seen her since... thank god.

however, i found out from one of my coworkers that she tried to commit suicide this weekend and in her letter blamed me and several others at work who weren't fans of hers either for "emotionally battering" her and treating her with "unusually cruel treatment". WTF? first off - i was never cruel to her. i didn't even really talk to her at work unless we had to do something together. at the same time, i never excluded her. i never said, "hey, let's all go out to lunch and LET'S NOT INVITE *HER*" - she was always invited, mostly because i refused to be blamed for angering her otherwise. i never spread rumors, i didn't even complain about her at work (i did complain about her once we were out, though) because i was paranoid that she would be listening in from the next room or something. i tried to be as diplomatic as possible (libra rising) because i don't want work to be a living hell and i'll admit it - i'm freaking scared of her.

so WTF is going on with this chick? is it merc square mars? all that water placements? that singleton aqua mars? i have no idea what her rising sign is, but this is her chart and her transits:


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MoonPixie
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posted November 17, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
don't get me wrong: even though i think she deserves anything karma throws at her, i still feel bad for her. clearly she is emotionally unhinged and needs help. at the same time though, she doesn't deserve my sympathy after everything that she did to me. some coworkers of ours are telling me that i should call her up at home so she can't accuse me of being cold-hearted towards her after her stint this weekend, but i really don't want to have any connections to her... AT ALL.

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sunshine_lion
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posted November 17, 2008 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
can you say - psycho?

the best thing to do is not let her in your life. say, "thats really too bad" and let it go. like a dog or an animal she sensed your fear and is trying to make you a target for her blame others for my instability game. The best thing to do is take no part in it.
When it gets brought up, say, oh thats too bad.....anyone see that new movie blah blah blah....two beats....change the subject...

what about your friend that let her squeese in the middle when you were talking? I mean, I would have said, uh, we are having a conversation here, you and I can talk afterwards.

Moonpixie, if you don't stand up for yourself...tell me this...who will?

Don't get drawn into her drama and if she gets in your space tell her to take a hike, do not be afraid of her, tell her to go get some medication and meanwhile... beat it.

No ONE is responsible for anyone else taking thier life or threatening to take thier life. That is strictly the mind set of the person making that threat and thier instability, so don't ever let anyone make you feel responsible for thier actions.

Practice "the look". I can get rid of people like that with a look. The look says...seriously, you are rude, the look says, seriously, you are interupting me...the look says,,,don't mess with me...the look says, puhlease take your game and be gone. People don't mess with people that have the look perfected.

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Libralove09
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posted November 17, 2008 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message
take revenge back.

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darkdreamer
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posted November 17, 2008 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with everything Sunshine Lion said.

Don`t let yourself get manipulated.
You say the job is over? You will not see her again?
So she`s out of your life, and whatever she does is her responsibility, not yours.

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posted November 17, 2008 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
I realise that we are only getting one side of the story and maybe some people might be ticked off by this. However clearly there is a problem that needs to be addressed here. So from your point of view...(ie I understand why you'd be annoyed).

Well she's got that stellium and her Mars square Sun/Merc makes her rather aggressive and volatile which is nicely topped by Chiron which is trine Mars and quincunx her Sun/Merc. Also Moon square Chiron. Her choices of hurt are words - Chiron in Gemini.

Simple thing is refuse to interact with her. She's manipulating you and obviously very good and volatile about it. Shut down and walk away and keep communication or interactions to a minimum. What can she do then?

If she persists and if you have air in your chart, use that verbiage to stick the knife in where it hurts.


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sunshine_lion
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posted November 17, 2008 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
when I was a child I got beat up every day by a bully. LG. LG bloodied my nose every day. it was easy to do. I got bloody noses easy. EVERY DAY she beat me up. EVERY DAY. One day my psycho mother locked the screen door on me, I was maybe 7 years old. She said, you can come back in this house only after you go back down the street and kick her A$$ until SHE runs home crying to her mother. Uh, yeah, long walk back down the street. Skinny girl with dirty bloody shirt...scared to death...To go beat up a girl twice my size or my mom wasn't letting me come home. blood and dirt on my shirt..I walked down there and jumped on that girl like Ralph from the Christmas Story. Guess what, she never bothered me again, in fact, nobody on that street did.

Don't let people push you around honey. Nobody. Not man, woman, boss, friend, bully, tootie fruity or rootie. You stand up for you and they will back down. This I know.

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silverstone
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posted November 17, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Do you know her ascendant? That's kind of odd, due to her being a Scorpio with a Moon in Pisces, but would like to know her ascendant? Something is off-- if you do not have her time of birth, that's not an accurate chart

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MoonPixie
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posted November 17, 2008 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for all your responses

i've decided to not give a sht about this girl anymore. at first i felt bad and started to wonder if i did in fact do anything to her and then i realized the only thing i did wrong was not doing anything at all - standing up for myself against her, for others, etc.

i really don't know her ascendent. she could possibly be an aries moon. it doesn't really matter in the end - it doesn't really justify why she's a total b**ch.

also, as far as the guy she had a crush on, he never stood up for me or against her. not once. i think it's because she spoiled him with everything.

i dunno... my experiences with scorpio heavy women have always been bad; i always meet the bad of the bunch.

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Astra
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posted November 17, 2008 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
MoonPixie, I really do understand your situation. I've dealt with similar people in the past. To deal with these emotionally-unstable types, I really like to push their buttons. How? You need to work on giving the "look" as sunshion_lion said. It makes life so much easier! With just a single glance, I can make even the toughest Scorpios back off. You, too, can achieve this through practice.

It's very possible that this bully has a Pisces moon. The Pisces moon is actually quite common in the charts of bullies particularly if they have a naturally forceful and independent sun sign like Scorpio. Scorpios want to feel like they're in control and hate showing any weakness. A Pisces moon makes someone deeply sensitive and easily wounded by others. Combined with a Scorpio sun, this can make a Scorpio way too aggressive because they're trying to hide their vulnerable side and they often prefer to hurt others before others have a chance to hurt them.

And yes, people with a lot of Scorpio in their charts can be REALLY awful to the extreme. However, they can also be REALLY amazing and kind-hearted people. Scorpio, after all, is the sign of extremes. You'll often find the highest and the lowest under this sign.


Sunshine_lion, that's awesome that you were able to beat up that bully! I know people always say that we should use our "words" and never fight, but in my experience, some people only learn when you beat the s**t out of them. Sometimes, that's the only way to make someone back off. Fortunately, most people will back off if you just give them the "look."

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amowls
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posted November 17, 2008 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
It's a bad situation, but you don't ever have to see her again, and you haven't. All you know is that she tried to commit suicide and blamed you. The best thing for you to do is walk away. You don't see her, you don't talk to her, you have no contact with her.

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posted November 17, 2008 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
..R rated..

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writesomething
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posted November 17, 2008 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
23- I think that advice is really over the top and unnecessary. Dont sink to her level. Let it go and ignore her. The worst thing you can do to a Scorpio is ignore them.

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posted November 17, 2008 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well it is brutal and I will cut it out but I'm speaking from experience and it worked for me with people of that ilk and other bullies. As I said, extreme circumstances require extreme actions, protection of No. 1 is necessary.

I will remove the passages though.

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LadyNeptune
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posted November 17, 2008 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyNeptune     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think you should've cut it out.

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posted November 17, 2008 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Lady Neptune - I've got a copy of it on my desktop, I can email or put it up again for Moon Pixie if she wants to know about it.

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MoonPixie
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posted November 17, 2008 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
HMMMM, now i'm intrigued... but don't put it up lol. ive already decided to just ignore everything. unless she pulls something else.. which i can't imagine happening... or what she would do if she were to do something, but whatever. i'm moving 5,000 miles away from her in 3 days.

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posted November 17, 2008 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Then problem solved! (if you're moving...)

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bunnies
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posted November 18, 2008 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Mmm yes you would think the problem would be solved wouldn't you?
But I think there is a much deeper issue here.
I think it's a rather sad story.
Don't know who said it but it was something along the lines of
"Our reactions come from either love or fear"

Now I know this girl is the supposed villain of the piece but have you ever thought how sad and frightened she must have been?
She attempted suicide. That is a desperate and lonely place to end up.

And I think Moon that deep down, because you are a kind soul, you know this and you are frightened that you and others maybe unwittingly made her feel worse.

And I think by trying to justify her actions through whatever means you are trying to explain why you feel bad.
Because I think you do and you don't know why.
She's obviously disturbed but acting through fear not malice.

If for no other reason than to make yourself feel better may I suggest you write her a letter.

In it say, that you understand you had your differences and that probably you will never be friends, but that doesn't mean that you don't appreciate how sad she is.
You don't have to admit anything about your previous actions (she most likely did deserve it) but show her what a decent and good human being you are by offering her solace.
Not support, not an explanation just a "hey"

I think you are sad yourself over this deep down, because you are a good soul.
If nothing else it will make you feel better so that you can move on because I think if you don't Moon Pixie, this will trouble you later on.

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PeaceAngel
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posted November 18, 2008 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I empathise with you. My father used to threaten to kill my mother and himself unless I did as he ordered. Or that he would hurt himself. I never got why he thought that that would bother me - that I cared that much. I could never understand that - the need for attention - their need to be the centre of someone elses existence. And that's all it is. It's just someone screaming for attention (and love). But you don't have to be the one to give it to them. In fact, it's better to not engage - to distance yourself completely. It's just people pushing responsibility onto others. But none of it has anything to do with you. It's all their own - and they need to wear that. It's control through emotional manipulation. They can't control the responses of people around them and they desire to do so in order to make themselves feel secure. I'm sorry for the distress that it has caused you. Count your blessings that you're moving away from this person.

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 18, 2008 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say that this girl sounds extremely manipulative and not to mention, emotionally unstable. I worked with someone similar last summer who NO ONE liked because she was just a nasty person. She especially seemed hellbent on making my workexperience there a living nightmare since I never acknowledged her whenever she came to my hostess stand (due to the way she treated me on my first day). Only she didn't realize that working there was a living hell already...but not because of her. I didn't care for her and it made her even more mad. Don't even know what goes through the head of these types of people but whatever.


I hate to say it, since I know us Cancers can be manipulative ourselves, but all of your bully's behavior does make sense with her scorpio-heavy chart. Plus she has sun square mars which is not the most unconfrontational of aspects. I'm just glad you understand that it is NOT your fault she attempted suicide, this girl just likes attention and likes to manipulate people just like many others who use suicide to get people to do what they want. *disclaimer* I don't mean all suicidal people.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted November 18, 2008 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
I hate when people try to be bosses. sometimes I just laugh or sometimes I put them in there place. nobody is the boss of me. the type of people that are fit to be bosses arent called bosses they are called something else and they dont demand they are very soft generous people who may look like a boss but theres a key difference.. people want to listen to them instead of having to listen to them.

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