posted November 18, 2008 09:17 PM         

OK. Here are two synastries of 2 guys who are in my life right now.

I am listing them to show how it seems to be more commonplace to have soul mates using IQ's point system. Please not that l have only used the 10 point and not the 5/3 points as there are too many of them and with 10 only l can illustrate my point lol

All my ex relationships have scores as high as these so what is going on? Am l just a magnet for soul mates or is there more to it than just juno/karma etc etc

Let's discuss!!!

ANDY/ME
(10 points each)
moon trine juno (3)
saturn trine eros (0)
eros sextile psyche (2)
eros trine saturn (1)
juno trine moon (3)
juno trine venus (1)
juno trine saturn (2)
venus sextile mars (3)
mars sextile saturn (0)
NN sextile mars (0)
NN trine juno (1)
NN trine eros (2)
120

JYNX/ME
(10 points each)
moon trine juno (4)
venus sextile juno (0)
venus sextile karma (1)
mars trine psyche (0)
pluto trine mars (1)
pluto sextile psyche (0)
karma conjunct karma (3)
karma conjunct juno (4)
karma conjunct juno (5)
valentine conjunct valentine (5)
valentine sextile pluto (0)
valentine trine psyche (4)
valentine trine psyche (0)
juno conjunct juno (5)
eros conjunct eros (5)
psyche conjunct psyche (0)
NN conjunct moon (2)
NN conjunct venus (0)
NN conjunct saturn (3)
NN conjunct NN (2)
200

I haven;t even included the AC as l don't know them!!! lol

What is going on?? I mean the 1st guy is my sex buddy and the 2nd is this guy who is flirting with me!

Ok interesting question: which is the better synastry?

If IQ is right and this is how to find the soul mate, how come l have 2 people here who are in my life right now who both fit the "soul mate" pattern, not to mention my ex in NYC, my ex husband and the father of my youngest child- all of whom l have as amazing synastry!!!!

So can we please discuss how this can happen so frequently, seeing as it basically shouldn't.

Interestingly enough, both these guys are predominantly Aquarian hahaha

Peace x

posted November 19, 2008 03:20 AM         

I also don't try to find soul mate potential in synastry. I just take it for what it is.

examples of aspects I focus on:
ME/BOYFRIEND:
Mars conjunct Saturn (0)
NN conjunct Sun (1)
Pluto square Venus (0)
Pluto opposite Mars (1)
Venus conjunct Valentine (0)
Moon opposite Amor (0)
Jupiter conjunct Amor (0)
Sun conjunct MC (1)
Sun conjunct progressed Lust (0)

posted November 19, 2008 05:03 AM         

Thats why we need the exact Ascendant, this is a filter that will remove so many wrong choices as for truw love mates, the Ascnendant makes a 1 degree orb aspect with Mars, Venus, Saturn , Karma or Valentine.

I have to either refine my scoring [lesser points to trine, sextile and minus 5 points for every square found in the chart for the relevant planets and asteroids] or we should hike the cut off to 150+ for those who have the right birth time and 200+ for those who do not have the right birth times.

posted November 19, 2008 05:18 AM         

well i'm already at 200+ points without AC and without using the lesser asteroids!

By the end of this week l should have my birth time - i'm getting it rectified professionally

posted November 19, 2008 05:32 AM         

I`d think those are the most important ones you listed (sextiles are nice, but I think conjunctions and trines are much stronger indications of soulmate potential)

JYNX/ME
(10 points each)
mars trine psyche (0)
pluto trine mars (1)
valentine trine psyche (0)
psyche conjunct psyche (0)
NN conjunct moon (2)
NN conjunct venus (0)
NN conjunct NN (2)
70

posted November 19, 2008 05:33 AM         

I'm simply going on IQ's requirements and l agree... soul mates have not much to do with astrology, which is why i've started this thread lol

Although, most of my ex's have been my soul mates because the relationships have all been heavily karmic... and the lessons heavy and with soul mates, once the lesson is learnt and the karmic negated or paid back it ends.

posted November 19, 2008 05:36 AM         

I mean l have 4 other guys in my past that l hit the 100 mark with, even with your strict under 2 deg policy!!!

posted November 19, 2008 05:47 AM         

I think they all reach parts other partners don't reach and they are much more similar than we realise!!

I think honestly that the older the soul the greater the lessons and the more potential soul mates because the soul group is older and wider. That's it!
I think that soul mates are more guidance points than anything else and the twin soul is there for the big one (lesson that is).

They help us evolve.

posted November 19, 2008 05:59 AM         

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the twin soul is there for the big one (lesson that is)

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I think the twin soul is there at the end of the journey (in the realm).

I think we have soulmates in abundance. I think with twinsouls that one is usually incarnate and the other isn't - watching over the one on the material plane.

posted November 19, 2008 06:02 AM         

But I must say that I disagree.
I do think that we have a soulfamily, and some members are closer to us than others. Of course there is a number of soulmates / soulfamily-members that are equally close to us.

Also I think we have to take IQ`s first rule serious. Without tight aspects to the ASC, they may be close earthmates, but no soulmates. I think th is goes for the IC, too. But of course that iso nly my opinion.

So you`re welcome to disagree with me.
I`m not in anyway upset about disagreement; the soulmate-issue is a highly subjective one, espeically in astrological terms, so noone can know for certain. And what for you is true, doesn´t have to be my truth.

For example: I just can`t really believe that all those men you mentione4d in the past are your soulmates. For my taste they just changed too quickly to leave the impression I connect with a soulmate.
But that is only me, my perception of things. Maybe they all are your soulmates.
For me it takes some more time to be sure of that. I mean surely if we meet someone who has a profound influence on us we are inclined to see soulmate-potential in him, just because this way he is even more special than all the others before.
But in my opinion only time can tell us. And our own soul, the feelings inside.

But thatis MY take on this. It doesn`t have to be the right one for you, it is just for me.

posted November 19, 2008 06:03 AM         

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But they are only that, a hint, not a guarantee.

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I agree with everything you've said. On the mark (as always) .

I think that even if we were ever to meet a twinflame, it doesn't guarantee that either party is in a place in their personal evolution to guarantee they would unite, harmoniously or in any other way. I think people underestimate the value of Earth mates. The lessons that Earth mates bring ultimately lead to twinflame unions.

posted November 19, 2008 06:08 AM         

My soul mates haven't come and gone so quick. The first one was 5 yrs and we have now known each other for 21 yrs, the 2nd one was 6 yrs and we have known each other for 10 yrs, the 3rd one l have known now for 13 yrs and the two l have listed on this thread are simply in my life right now so l used them as flippant guinea pigs.

Andy is my sex buddy who l adore and am in angst about and Jynx is a friend whom is flirting with me and i'm not flirting back!!!

Pick randomly 2 men in your life at moment and see if they have over 70+ points with you. I am interested to know... my point was simply that maybe one can pick anyone that you are attracted to and potentially have 70+ points!!

posted November 19, 2008 06:09 AM         

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For example: I just can`t really believe that all those men you mentione4d in the past are your soulmates. For my taste they just changed too quickly to leave the impression I connect with a soulmate.

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posted November 19, 2008 06:12 AM         

lol

posted November 19, 2008 06:13 AM         

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PA - if one twin soul is incarnate and the other one is in the material plane - is the incarnate one "watching"? And are they waiting for the other to evolve so that they can get to meet? Interested in your views.

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Good to see you, as always.

posted November 19, 2008 06:17 AM         

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Pick randomly 2 men in your life at moment and see if they have over 70+ points with you. I am interested to know... my point was simply that maybe one can pick anyone that you are attracted to and potentially have 70+ points!!

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posted November 19, 2008 06:19 AM         

Thanks for that. That made sense. Is twinsoul love always romantic love, as we would define it here on earth?

posted November 19, 2008 06:19 AM         

I don't live my life like this!!!!!
I am not going to dismiss anyone because they don't fit IQ's criteria because ALL my soul mates DID fit the criteria and 2 of them were the worst relationships of my life!

Both of those crap relationships l had OUTSTANDING synastry and composites with lol so go figure

posted November 19, 2008 06:26 AM         

I don't think twin souls are always romantic, no. I think that the lessons with twin souls can be really painful and hard. I say this because my 2 worst relationships were near as damn it twin souls (l don't believe that pluto/venus is the only indicator of a twin) and we tore each other apart...

posted November 19, 2008 06:30 AM         

No, sweetie - I think you misunderstood me. Maybe I didn't use enough smilies (or any - I'm not sure). This is where the written word communicates differently to spoken words. I was straight up asking a question. I'm just wondering - it's an open question to anyone.

It wasn't an attack on you. I did notice though, that you contradicted yourself in a couple of the last posts to DD. One where you agreed that astrology wasn't so important to soulmates, but then asking a question (which looked like a challenge to DD) about the 70 points. So it emphasises the question (maybe) - the balance or discernment between astrology and "knowingness" or "feeling", and even the difference between the them.

I'm just curious, would you (ie, anyone) dismiss someone because the astrology doesn't fit even though feelings do?