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oneruledbymars
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posted November 19, 2008 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
I am completely obsessed with there symbolic geometry, beautiful patterns, and obvious connection to astrology..... Just curious as to how you all felt about them as well.

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posted November 19, 2008 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
I love Crop Circles!!!! How on earth are they made??

I saw a video clip on tv, with about 4 smalll shiny orbs zooming over a grassed area and then a crop circle appeared instantaneously!!

I'm inclined to think 'alien' with crop circles. Although, I know some people have been caught out creating their own.

The geometric designs are beautiful and no doubt meaningful. Are they connected to Astrology?

PS - Just noticed your Moon in Sag - I have as well...!!

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posted November 19, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
i love them. They intrigue me. Im addicted too!

i believe aliens made them not some crackhead farmers with 20 yr old tractors

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posted November 19, 2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Lara that's so funny! Crackhead farmers!

Farmer : "Ere, does ee fancy making a few geometric circles tha night?

Farmers son: Ee I rightly do father.

Farmer: Then fire up tractor son and let's have ee turning a few.

Son: Reet father but I may have to take a quick poke of yonder crack pipe thither.

Farmer: Ah reet son. If tha' must. But I tells ee aint no one can plough a dihexydedron with a pentacle thrown in for good measure. I'm reet proud of you lad.

Yep my money's on aliens!

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posted November 19, 2008 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

ahahahahahahahahaha omg that was brilliant and exactly what l was thinking when l wrote my post LOL

Is it your leo or Aquarius that we are so tuned on Bunnies? lol

oh, you are gonna love this - aqua sun/moon/mercury guy who l have been having dinners with said to me today "i really think you are my soulmate!!!" lol
I thought Aqua's didn't do all that mushy stuff ahahha x

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posted November 19, 2008 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Hang on! What happened to LeoSun Aqua Moon?
I think you are definitely Aqua somewhere though.
All that contradictory "I want to be free/ I would kill for my kids/I don't want a man to possess me/ why isn't he crazy over me?

Oh it's bloody exhausting.
I hope to reincarnate as a Capricorn with a flow chart and my "To Do" list and a life plan set in stone.

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posted November 19, 2008 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

a "to do list" hahahahahahaha lol
thats hilarious ...

well the leo/sun and aqua/moon guy is STILL around by default but i'm starting to get bored of him just being an iceberg... sometimes even a bloody iceberg has to melt, if only enough to put ice in my vodka!!!

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posted November 19, 2008 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Oh well now he'll LOVE you!
I think if an Aqua has told you you are his soul mate you can pretty well think that you are.
We are honest. To a fault. If we are cool it's because we don't string people along with false promises. But to say that means...well exactly that.

It won't be in a "OMgosh I have SO met my soul mate for like the fourteenth time this week" it will be a quiet "Well whaddya know? I have met my soul mate. FACT.

Lucky you! We are unfailingly loyal.
I may have married three times but I was unfailingly loyal to all of them.
I always said to them "Trust me, if I even consider being unfaithful you will be the first to know"
Good luck with a double Aqua (there's a HUGE post on them)

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posted November 19, 2008 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks bunnies
yes l will read the post.
He's cappy venus and pisces mars too LOL

it's like whirlwind... we were talking for months and then bang! it kinda all went ballistic lol

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posted November 19, 2008 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
KoiFlower-
Sag moons, dont you love em. I mean I put my foot in mouth alot, but its really funny to watch it happen!
Maybe its our Sag moons that have us totally enthralled by the crop circles.
See I didnt think that he had anything to do with astrology either, but I should have never thought that because lesson one is that we are all connected, and so all must harmonize.
So consider these pics from Avebury Manor, and I wanna know everyones comments on them. I was like whoa!





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posted November 19, 2008 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Here is the commentary:
I was in the Avebury 2012 formation the other day, and when I came to the Earth I was puzzled to find an off centre standing tuft, so small (about a foot) that it is virtually invisible in all the aerial photos.

I tried to take shots of it on the ground, but since I forgot to bring my camera pole (idiot!) I was unable to put the camera up high enough to get the entire Earth and moon in the frame.

But I DO have an aerial shot (which I had previously not even looked closely at because the aircraft's tire is in the frame) which is zoomed in enough to show the Moon (?) detail.

What intrigues me is that the tuft is off centre. Given the unquestionable 2012 symbolism, if the dot was in the middle I'd say it just meant, "this is your planet." But it's off to one side -- so I'm guessing the moon is passing over the Earth.

I wonder if your eclipse expert, "Red Collie" can make anything of it? This might be just the clue that's needed to pin down the exact date.This morning my friend Dr. Simeon Hein called to tell me that he had taken Ron Russell's tour to Avebury in the morning, and discovered a new crop formation adjacent to the North-West quadrant of the henge. Normally I would have immediately gone to have a look, as Avebury is close by, but I was tired from a late night, and just stayed in bed working on Email.

But then around noon my pilot, Dai Dobbs, wrote to say that he had bought a new 3-axis micro-light aircraft, and would I like to go for a cruse -- oh, boy, WOULD I?!

So soon we were headed for the new circle, and got good shots.

The new formation is obviously a diagrammatic representation of the Sun and planets (with no care for proper astronomical proportions). But the smaller inner ones (Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars) are clearly delineated from the giant outer ones (Jupiter, Saturn Uranus and Neptune).

And there is a huge Sun with an unusual reversing swirl lay.

As for Pluto, is it another small planet and displayed the same as the little inner ones, with a small size and thin orbital line. I also know enough to recognize that it's orbit is symbolically correct in that it goes well outside of Neptune’s path for most of the way, but for a while it is within the Sea God's orbit (note the upper left hand part).

I have an astronomer friend who I asked to check the planetary positions, but he said they do not match the present time.


The crop circle formation at Avebury Manor seems to depict our solar-system (not in proportional scale) on December 21, (+/-) 2012 - the highly debated end of the Mayan calendar (or at least one of the most prominent interpretations of that date). Whatever this means and who-or-whatever created this crop circle, I do not know - but the basic message of it is quite clear.

Avebury Manor of July 15, 2008 reminds us that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end on December 23, 2012: by showing precise orbital locations for all nine planets of our solar system on that date, plus an accurate elliptical orbit for Pluto
The 5125-year Mayan Long count calendar will end on December 22-23, 2012. Given the long period of time which it represents, all nine planets of our solar system need to be shown in order to mark its end uniquely. Such a clever astronomical diagram was shown at Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008. All nine planets appear there precisely as they will be located in space four and one-half years from now on December 23, 2012, with one exception.

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posted November 19, 2008 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
to the crossover of its highly elliptical orbit with the orbit of Neptune. Three weeks ago at Secklendorf in Germany, two different dates from the year 2012 were indicated astronomically in a crop picture, one of which (December 21, 2012) was essentially the same as that shown here (see HERE).


[IMThus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawn in this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case. Yet Pluto still seems to be located correctly relative G]http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/dcb96/AveburyManor1a.jpg[/IMG]

December 21 or 23, 2012?

Many people believe that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end precisely on December 21, 2012. Yet a new crop picture from Avebury Manor shows planetary positions that match more closely December 23-24 than December 21. To be specific, Venus and Mercury will lie almost directly in line with the Sun on December 21, whereas on December 23-24, Mercury will lie a little ahead of Venus as shown (see HERE).

Since we are obtaining such new information directly "from the horse's mouth", I thought it more advisable to report the astronomical date they are actually showing us, rather than any preconceived date of our own. For example, modern scholars remain uncertain by two full days, whether the Long Count calendar began on August 11,12 or 13, 3114 BC

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posted November 19, 2008 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Please find photo attachment of our revisit to Avebury Manor. Just as we were admiring how carefully this circle has been created, leaving the flowering plant in the centre intact a light orb appeared by our feet !!! Were we just seeing things or this this quite a common report ? Made our day anyway...
Andrew Pyrka (Cheltenham)

I was just thinking, that weird triangle formation that you saw going from one formation to the flower of life. It reminds me of the the way the grid/leylines are laid out on the planet. Triangles of various sizes and shapes. I can't think of anything else that it would represent right now.

This appears to me as a "golden ratio" attempt, utilizing The Fibonacci numbers to create a "golden spiral" or a "Fibonacci spiral" amongst the planets, If you look carefully, you will easily notice the "decent" of the furthest planet, making its way down to a perfect spiral toward to the centre of the circle.

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Sorry it was so long. But its all pretty amazing to me. I get alot of energy and thoughts coming at me when I take this all in. Its hasnt quite settled. What do you guys think. Apparently this cirlcle just showed up in July of this year. I feel iike the Spirit is reassuring us...........we just have to be open enough to actually see the messages all around us!

I mean Lara look at us and all the soul mate synastry!
Whew its alot man, its like bam, bam, bam.
All us I think are going through a transformation with this earth as we approach the New Age.
Its very exciting.
Or maybe its just our Sag Moons Koi! lol

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posted November 19, 2008 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
WOW look at that PERFECT orb!

nothing to do with aliens but it is interesting that it is in the last pic


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posted November 19, 2008 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
i know!

I wanna see a light orb!

*jumping up and down*

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posted November 19, 2008 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
no you don't... my good friend of mine had a series of photos of himself on facebook. I noticed that most of them had orbs around him.

The most recent ones had the most orbs and then within a couple of weeks of these last series of photos he dropped down dead.

Orbs can mean the spirits coming to get you... they are not always positive.

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posted November 19, 2008 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Alrighty then........*clearing throat*

*Turns around and stratches that off list*

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Lara
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posted November 19, 2008 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I agree though oneruledbymars - l def def think that something is up with all the synchronicity and maybe its affecting mars a lot which is why we seem to be affected heaps!!!

I love these photos, thanks
They are just so awesome... and mesmorizing too.

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posted November 19, 2008 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL!!!!

it's not always negative but l have seen it happen several times where l asked a friend if everyone in the photo is healthy and 9 times out of 10 one person in the pic is no longer on the earth...

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posted November 19, 2008 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
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posted November 19, 2008 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
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posted November 19, 2008 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
I know right!
And your welcome, I am like you, just blown away at the beauty. Here are some more shots!!


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posted November 19, 2008 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Ok.Ok.
No light orbs. I get it.
Can you quit rubbing it in! lol

Hey check this one out!
Im on a role:

Who else but Quetzalcoatl and his mates could have made something so clever? Using an astronomical symbolism totally forgotten today, except by students of ancient Mayan culture? In other words, May 8 was the date of zenial passage for Palenque, Tikal and La Venta, and that was when the crop picture at Avebury Stone Avenue appeared, lined up on the horizon with (90 - 72.5) = 17.5 degrees North.



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posted November 19, 2008 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message

Who else but Quetzalcoatl and his mates could have made something so clever? Using an astronomical symbolism totally forgotten today, except by students of ancient Mayan culture? In other words, May 8 was the date of zenial passage for Palenque, Tikal and La Venta, and that was when the crop picture at Avebury Stone Avenue appeared, lined up on the horizon with (90 - 72.5) = 17.5 degrees North
.Avebury Stone Avenue of May 8: a Mayan "zenial passage" that coded for Palenque at 17.5 degrees North
Previously I was able to understand the sundial-type crop picture which appeared on May 8 at Avebury Stone Avenue in terms of its geographical and calendrical significance, but none of us seemed to realize its profound cultural significance!

It shows in fact what is known as a "zenial passage" from ancient Mayan astronomy (see www.michielb.nl/maya/astro.html
or http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zenial_passage):

The Maya were quite accomplished astronomers. Their primary interest, in contrast to modern western astronomers, was in "zenial passages" when the Sun crossed over certain Mayan latitudes. On an annual basis, the Sun travels to its summer solstice point or latitude 23 degrees North on June 20 of any year. Most Maya cities were located south of that latitude, meaning that they could observe the Sun directly overhead while it was passing over some particular city on a certain day. This happened twice a year, evenly spaced around the summer solstice.

The Maya could easily determine those dates, because at local noon the Sun cast no shadow. Zenial passage observations are possible only in the tropics, and were unknown to Spanish conquistadors who descended upon the Yucatan in the 16th century. The Maya even had a god to represent an overhead position of the Sun, known as the "Diving God":


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posted November 20, 2008 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I saw this show where a bunch of art students geared with 2x4 wood planks and a "jump rope" attached from both ends, and long rope for creating a circle (created a crop circle in and incredible short timeframe. They scoped out a cornfield and ran down the rows as to not trample and corn then one guy stood in the center and acted as the pivot point. He held onto the rope while someone else held the other end of the rope (like a radius 1/2 the length of the diameter of the circle.) while his buddies stepped onto the wood plank pushing the corn gently down. They'd lift the plank with the rope attached to the two ends and continue pressing the corn in a circular manner until the reach the desired size of a circle. They essentially created a giant protractor. Then they'd skip a few feet and begin pressing the corn with their rope held planks again. when they wanted a new circle the pivot person would move to a new location and begin the process again. They found after doing several of these crop circles that the mathematical relationships occured almost naturally and did not require planning. People read into the circles and created their own stories. I'm sure some of them were planned ------------ by humans.

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