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evander
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posted November 21, 2008 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
This morning I've found 2 of my umbrellas to be covered in what I then believed was throw up ( originating from an alcoholic neighbor ). One of the umberellas was borrowed so I was forced to wash it. The gelatinous mass turned out to be some weird kind of dried blood or something. Smelled like blood. Very hard to clean. Actually impossible. I ended up buying a replacement for the friend whose umbrella it was.

im stunned. I mean who does that ?

I am so freaked out right now.

I'm pretty sure that it was some act of paganism because I've known a few similar cases over the years.

arghhhh

what makes anyone do that??

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 21, 2008 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Act of paganism = vomiting on an umbrella? I don't understand.

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evander
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posted November 21, 2008 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
it wasn't vomit. and the neighbor was away. im sorry. im just so creeped out i don't think im making any sense .


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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 21, 2008 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
It sounded like bloody vomit, as blood itself seems too thin for me to visualize as gelatinous.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 21, 2008 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
But my point was that I can't equate the act of purposely befouling an object with "Paganism".

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evander
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posted November 21, 2008 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
i get what ur saying.

but it wasnt vomit. vomit has that accidic digestion smell. this was different.

it was not vomit.

i had another person look at it. she agrees its definitly not vomit.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 21, 2008 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
So, hey, on the bright side, at least it isn't vomit.

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missneptune
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posted November 21, 2008 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missneptune     Edit/Delete Message
Do you know what paganism is? It means non-christian relgion, maybe your thinking of satanism, either way that is pretty gross- umbrella with blood!

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Lara
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posted November 21, 2008 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Scorpionic!

Paganism is pretty ok actually
(ducking for cover)

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MyVirgoMask
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posted November 21, 2008 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Evander, paganism is not satanism. Paganism is pretty much nature-loving and doesn't do this weird kinda hoodoo-freaky-freaky. If you're talking Blair Witch Project stuff, then you're talking Satanism or something of the sort.

Are you sure your neighbor didn't just barf on an umbrella?
Stomach acids can be pretty nasty when someone's an alcoholic. Your neighbor must've horked up pretty violently - if he/she is an alcoholic, then it can get bloody.
I hate get all graphic here, but that's what it's coming down to.
I see people doing the nastiest sh*t, but I'm not going to call it black magic.
I just call it nasty sh*t.

Does your neighbor have a gripe with you for you to be considering this stuff?

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MoonPixie
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posted November 21, 2008 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
Regardless of why they did it, that's just fcking weird. Everyone can agree on that.

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PeaceAngel
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posted November 22, 2008 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
People sometimes do disguisting and dispicable things for their own amusement. There's not real thought behind their actions.

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augentier
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posted November 22, 2008 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for augentier     Edit/Delete Message
evander i suggest you look up the meaning of paganism and also read up on the various practices and beliefs of pagans lest you look like a fool

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D for Defiant
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posted November 22, 2008 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
First off, what does this topic have to do with astrology? As this is the Astrology forum.

Secondly, I think you were implying practice of the dark occult, the use of negative magick etc, etc. Paganism is NOT Satanism. Pagans usually do not believe in Satan, or the devil, or devils, not to mention worshipping malevolent entities. Pagans do have their ethical codes and avoid initiating harm, but aspire to initiate healing. Paganism is nature spirituality, consists of various non-Christian, non-Muslim, i.e. non-monotheistic religions, spiritual paths, or practices. Please do your research on "Pagansim", thank you.

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MysticMelody
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posted November 22, 2008 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Boy, aren't you guys gonna feel stupid when I come do the blood barfing ritual on your freaking umbrellas. Gonna wish you did some pukey protection spell then, huh? You freaking NON-BELIEVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave the scared person alone or I'll voodoo yer raincoat too.

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MysticMelody
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posted November 22, 2008 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
And I agree with all of your excellent points... I'm just saying, be nice (in a general way because everyone was pretty restrained and "nice" and some were downright sweet), because someone sounds scared. And that's the real point here.


Sorry it says "Moderator" after my name.
I make a stupid joke at a ridiculous time in the morning and it just carries too much weight....

Just being silly and making a fabulous point at the same time imo.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted November 22, 2008 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I do feel badly for evander If someone were horking up blood on my umbrella, I'd totally freak too, man.

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PeaceAngel
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posted November 22, 2008 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think evander meant to insult anyone - was just freaked out by the event.

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evander
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posted November 22, 2008 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
Really didn't mean to insult anyone. And I don't think it was Satanist act. Paganism is is a word used to refer to various religions and religious beliefs from across the world.

There are people around here who offer to throw "black magic" on you. I'm just stunned someone would actually go through with it.

I've done my share of barfing and this doesn't look like it.

Moderators feel free to delete the topic.

as far as astrology goes, maybe this might be considered a Pluto thing?

Pluto started conjuncting my uranus;


thnx everyone for the support.

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MoonWitch
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posted November 22, 2008 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
Why would you assume it was a neighbor? I may be missing part of the story. Does your neighbor hate you enough to destroy your umbrellas?

Maybe it was an animal. I live in Los Angeles and we have possums, coyotes, etc. They make messes sometimes.

Or maybe it was a prank by kids or teens. They enjoy that kind of stuff.

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augentier
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posted November 22, 2008 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for augentier     Edit/Delete Message
D for Defiant - even Satanists are not like this and many Satanists do not believe in "satan" but rather live by the qualities which mythological satan represents. i know Satanists who are respectful and would not do this to someone.

you live near a college campus? that could explain a lot ....

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evander
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posted November 22, 2008 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
I live in this sort of family house thats actually two apartments. I have one neighbour total and he is an alcoholic. Thought he might've gotten sick near his own door. The gate door is locked, so I doubt someone walked in with his dog then climbed two sets of stairs just to do weird stuff to the inside side of the umbrella.

No kids around. And no college campuses near by.

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blue moon
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posted November 22, 2008 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Salt removes blood stains.

Put a dab of salt in the cleaning water. Too late now.

If it's your own blood and it's a small spot, you can use a bit of string and your own spit. Or so a dressmaker once told me, I saw her do it and it worked.

Who would vomit in an umbrella? Someone drunk or high would be my guess. Maybe they thought they were in their bathroom, who knows?

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LadyNeptune
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posted November 22, 2008 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyNeptune     Edit/Delete Message
He could've vomited blood.

Or he could've been doing red jello shots, lol!


It sounds like an awful and weird experience.

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GemLover
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posted November 22, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
That sounds really weird and creepy, so no wonder you're freaked out. I wouldn't call it a pagan act though, definitely not - think more along the lines of 'people trying to freak you out with the implication of spooky stuff'. Don't let them succeed in creeping you out. Clean the umbrella with salt, as not only will it clean the blood, salt is used to clear spaces of negative energy and this in itself should make you feel better if you really are worried about creepy stuff (IMO I don't think you need to be, however). Other than that there could be a totally logical explanation like others have mentioned (eg a drunk who so happened to be passing by your umbrella...).

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