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FistOfLegend
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posted November 29, 2008 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
I've read from numerous sources that Moon in the eighth house afflicted points to women hating you. Why is that? I never understood this theory.

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Aste*risk
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posted November 29, 2008 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aste*risk     Edit/Delete Message
Aries Moon in 8th house.

I'm glad you told me. But honestly, I've never felt any resentful gazes burning through the back of my neck.

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Azalaksh
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posted November 29, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Pisces Moon 8th house.
Could you list some of those "numerous sources?"

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Glaucus
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posted November 29, 2008 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

It's things like that can make me skeptical of house placements.

I actually get annoyed when Astrologers come up with these morbid concepts in regards to 8th house placements

I have Eris in 8th house myself, and by right ascension,it semisquares my Moon with 7 minutes of arc.

also my Moon is conjunct 8th house ruler Mars too.


I have no problem in regards to women hating me.

I would definitely stay away from man-hating women.

I am also more feminine than most guys,and so it wouldn't make any sense for a woman to hate me. I am a feminist myself,believing in gender equality.

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Michael E. Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at the California Institute of Technology who discovered the distant ball of ice and rock that he nicknamed Xena, chose the name Eris, after the goddess of discord and strife in Greek mythology.

"It is absolutely the perfect name," Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

"She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else's is wrong," Brown said. "It really is just perfect."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/09/15/MNGS8L67LJ1.DTL

Ideology,Diversity,Divergence,Equality,Sharing,Advocacy,Discord,Debating,Compromise,Agreeing to Disagree,Alternative Viewpoints, Seeing/or not seeing Eye to Eye.

Eris in Aries Retrograde in 8th oppose Uranus,trine Ceres,sextile Midheaven,sextile/trine Lunar Nodes,trine Jupiter,quincunx Ascendant,biquintile Mercury,parallel Pluto

Sun conjunct South Eris Node in Scorpio in 2nd

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missneptune
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posted November 29, 2008 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missneptune     Edit/Delete Message
A lot of superstitious things are associated with the 8th house, I think its best to be skeptical of overly superstitious interpretations. My Sun & Mercury are in the 8th house, and I've read one interpretation that my spouse will probably die, again very superstitious!

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Sun - Leo
Moon - Pisces
Ascendant - Sagittarius

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 29, 2008 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo moon/ 8th house


Honestly, I'm very close to most of my female relatives. I call very few of my female peers 'close friends' but that's only because most women my age are hella catty...LOL.

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seveneieghtorange
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posted November 29, 2008 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seveneieghtorange     Edit/Delete Message
I dont have my moon in the 8th house, but a females always hate on me. I have jupiter in the 8th house, though... It will come from anywhere - co-workers, girlfriends of my guy friends (btw, I am NOT one of those women that get down with their male friends like that. My friends are my friends, period , no fooling around involved), down to females that work in circle k. The crazy thing is that...I dont hate on females!!! I'm always trying to be friends with females, but with no luck.

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 29, 2008 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
My Moon is in the 8th. Not many people "hate" me, in general. I could probably think of -two- my whole life, but that was more like dislike anyway.. Plus, they didn't actually know me at all, so I don't know if they count.
Both were female.

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amowls
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posted November 29, 2008 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I dont see what that has to do with the 8th house. Open enemies is ruled by 7th and secret enemies are a 12th house matter.

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alanabelle86
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posted November 29, 2008 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message
I think people get the function of houses vs. planets totally mixed up sometimes. The 8th house is associated with Pluto which represents outcasting, jealousy, rage, hatred, etc. However, the house and the planet do NOT work the same way.

The house shows "where".
The planet shows "what"
The sign shows "how"
The aspect shows "in what context"

I also have the Moon in 8th house. My Moon is in Leo. It's not that women hate me, but I've always had a strong, uncomfortable feeling around women.

I know what shows this in my chart. And it's definitely not the 8th house

Moon = emotions, habits, needs
..This part is "what"

Moon in 8th house = emotion/needs channeled through security issues, joint resources, intimacy, transformation, and "taboo" subjects
..This part is "where"

Moon in Leo = dramatic emotions and a need for attention, respect, and admiration
..This part is "how"

Moon square Pluto (2) = jealousy, power struggles with women, resentment, feelings of being 'outcast'
Moon opposite Mars (exact) = competition with women, masculine emotional patterns and habits
Moon square Venus = feminine principles at odds with one another
..This part is "in what context"

My hard aspects (squares and oppositions) are what influence me to feel uncomfortable and at times, "disliked" by my sex because by nature (Moon), I am more rugged, brash, and masculine (Mars) and very uncomfortable with traditionally feminine ideals, concepts, and stereotypes (Moon sq. Venus) therefore setting the stage for feelings of outcasting (Moon sq. Pluto).

I also have masculine Uranus conjunct my Ascendant and square my chart ruler Jupiter in the 3rd (I tend to be socially inappropriate and deviant). This, though, not a direct connection to my experiences with those of the same sex, also contributes indirectly to a seemingly too masculine, crude, and societally rebellious character that chafes with those who tend to follow the norm and challenges everything "by the book".

When you tie that into the Moon's squares to Pluto, Venus, and opposition to Mars, the story becomes much more clear.

Often times, you *must* look at more than one thing in the chart to find an answer.

Sometimes you just have to say screw the books and do the research for yourself. Remember to take everything with a grain of salt.

Think of your own life experiences. If someone is telling you something and it doesn't sound remotely close to being right, chances are it's not.

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Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo

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MyVirgoMask
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posted November 29, 2008 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
It would make sense that feelings about women and women's reactions would be more measured by aspects to the moon.

I've had my fair share of women disliking me - but my moon is in the 12th and not the 8th. It's in Aries, and opposes Uranus. That's the only aspect my moon's got.

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Lucia23
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posted November 29, 2008 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I'm a woman, and I've either liked platonically several 8th house moon men (one with a very affliced moon), or been attracted to them, or both...and I don't "hate" any creature. When someone sets me off or I find them challenging to deal with, it's always due to a number of complex factors. There is no astrological placement that causes 50+% of the human race to hate anybody.

What an over-the-top generalization. I don't even understand that type of thinking.

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missneptune
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posted November 29, 2008 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missneptune     Edit/Delete Message
I wonder if having a feminine moon sign makes it easier to feel comfortable around other women or having positive aspects from the moon to venus (I have moon trine venus). Even though the majority of my chart consists of masculine signs, I've always felt comfortable with females, except ones that are very competitive with other women -that really bothers me. I even have Sun square Pluto, and moon square ascendant, but these seem to not interfere with me getting along with fellow women.

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Sun - Leo
Moon - Pisces
Ascendant - Sagittarius

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praecipua
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posted November 30, 2008 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for praecipua     Edit/Delete Message
alanabelle86, i liked what u said

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alanabelle86
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posted November 30, 2008 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message
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I even have Sun square Pluto, and moon square ascendant

The Sun square Pluto if anything at all would point to issues with men, not women. The Sun represents men.

I feel planetary aspects to the angles don't influence "relations" as much as they do "approaches". Therefore, the Moon square Ascendant would represent a tendency to seem too sensitive or emotional, caring, nurturing, maybe even moody at times. It probably rounds out your features and softens the Ascendant's sign influence in your chart. It also represents a changeable personality. However, I don't feel it has anything to do with how you relate to women. The Ascendant is personality and outlook on the world. The Moon is emotions.

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Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo

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