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FistOfLegend
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posted December 03, 2008 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 03, 2008 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
wow that chart look's a lot like mine. houses anyway.

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posted December 03, 2008 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
all that cap. geez.

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posted December 03, 2008 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
her being a human being, im sure there is something to her.

she has Aries moon and Cappie Venus. implies a go-getter when it comes to love stuff.

Virgo asc maybe gives her the reserved attitude that you cant get past by.

Both Aqua sun and Virgo asc mean that she is probably very smart and a logical person.

And all that Capricorn, is insane! I have never seen so much of it.
You can be sure she knows what she wants, is highly ambitious.

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posted December 03, 2008 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo Asc's and Venus Retro's have always discouraged me. In both cases I've found it difficult to make a worthwhile impact on these people.

**Edit: Wow, the chart ruler forms an exact trine to the ascendant. Add the Aqua Sun and Venus Retro, and this girl would probably be swayed way too much by the intellect for me. Definitely not my type of relationship material, but I'm one of those unpopular passionate types.

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posted December 03, 2008 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
...but I'm heavily Scorpio, and with these Virgo Asc girls, Scorpio on the 3rd house cusp has always made me feel like communication is a major issue.

Regardless of your own placements, though, just having Scorpio on the 3rd house cusp will make it tough to break through to a Virgo Asc.

I knew an Aqua Sun girl with Aries Moon. Sexy as all hell, and a freaking genius.

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posted December 03, 2008 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
I like her chart overall - she's too mature/serious and she's probably quiet because she can't relate to other people her age.

She's probably very interested in her future career and politics. She sees school as a stepping stone to her career rather than a social arena.

The only thing that makes me uneasy is the Venus retrograde. That's not an easy placement in relationships. She'd make a warmer friend than lover.

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posted December 04, 2008 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 04, 2008 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 04, 2008 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I just said too intellect-driven *for me*. You see emotionality in her, an Aries Moon can add intense emotionality, but in many ways it will be the opposite of "relationship" emotionality, especially filtered through Aqua Suns' tendency towards intimacy detachment. This isn't a bad thing at all, Aqua Suns and Aries Moons still find plenty of love, as long as it suits your own needs. But it's why I meant she is likely not a good match for someone *like me*. But we're not talking about me here.

An Air Sun, with Mercury as chart-ruler in tight trine to the Ascendant, could make someone naturally, even compulsively, expressive. But she is still an air sign, so I would be careful to not confuse passionate expression with being a "purely emotional" person.

What you see as "lonely" in school, her chart suggests to me a girl very wrapped up in scholarly pursuit. I think you need to see her outside of school, when all studies are done, then report back to us with more perspective.

Obviously you've gotten one foot in the door, having managed to get a birth date/time/location out of her. Everyone needs love, and you've already made the first step by approaching her.

For my own curiosity, the fact that her chart ruler, Mercury, is so tightly trined the Ascendant but not in the same sign as her Sun is something I consider an intriguing modifier. I'm always interested to see strong Mercury placements that don't support the Sun placement.

Post your own chart, and maybe others can give some more insight.

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posted December 04, 2008 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 04, 2008 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message
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I still have no idea who she is. She's very quiet, almost mute, and she gives nothing out. No information, no data-nothing.

How in the world did you get her birth information?

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posted December 04, 2008 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 04, 2008 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's the Air/Fire Sun/Moon combo giving her that energy, Capricorn Mars (like me) giving the stamina, and specifically the Aries Moon giving her the powerhouse thing.

"Working hard was her way of showing love." (Venus Retro in Capricorn?)

Every Aries Moon I've met is quite a force to reckon with.

And Virgo Asc/Sun's are obviously often very health conscious, frequent gym attendees. My first love was a Virgo Asc (Taurus Sun), and she was ranked #1 in Philadelphia girls tennis all during high school.

*Edit: I know an Aries Sun with Virgo Asc woman with a career as a personal trainer. Her life is spent in the gym/track/field. A true dynamo of a woman. We once saw a car accident together, and she climbed over a fence and ran out onto the highway with such spontaneous sheer adrenalin to make sure everyone was okay, while I stood there and talked with passer-by's.

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posted December 04, 2008 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
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What you see as "lonely" in school, her chart suggests to me a girl very wrapped up in scholarly pursuit. I think you need to see her outside of school, when all studies are done, then report back to us with more perspective.

I agree with ScorpWeb. I have an Aries Sun in the 11th and Capricorn (Moon/Mars/Neptune).

I doubt that she dislikes being lonely. She is someone who does what she wants to do, and she is very clear on what she wants. If she wanted emotional closeness she would act more approachable and friendly. I believe her behaviour is detached - intentionally. She seems very calculated, intelligent and self-aware.
Whatever you do, don't treat her like an idiot or give her the idea that you pity her loneliness.. because she will assume that you have no understanding of her whatsoever, and she'll distance herself from you even more so.

Basically, I think you are misperceiving the "loneliness". You would definitely see a different side of her, outside school. The best way to get under her skin would be to passionately activate in an area she cares about. She's definitely a humanitarian. Start some kind of charity group at school, maybe. I'm not sure. Do something proactive.

She'd like a career guy - a guy who is passionate about the world, in the same way she is and has the drive and strength to see his plans through to completion.

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posted December 04, 2008 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
I 100% agree with CoralFrquency.

I doubt shes lonely. Some people like keeping somethings to themselves.
Her being an Aqua Sun explains this. Although this is one of the most social signs out there, it also implies someone that has emotional detachement. And the Virgo Asc adds to this loner like quality.

And believe me when I say this, she most definitely likes it that way.
Dont pity her.

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posted December 04, 2008 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message
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By the way, how do you quote stuff on here? There's no quote button.

[ quote ] text here [ / quote ] -- but of course, without any spaces between the brackets.

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Ranti
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posted December 04, 2008 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ranti     Edit/Delete Message
With this heavy Cap stuff of course she will age nicely. Loosen up with years and become a dream grand mom. Those lucky kids will love her dearly lol.

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posted December 05, 2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurean_scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
Her being independent or acting independent and self-sufficient could be a cover up for her lack of friends.
I know I was, except that I wasn't athletic or all that academic. But in highschool I kept to myself and did homework during lunch.
I'd walk around during lunch to look busy or go to the library. Highschool was tough.

See that she has all those planets in the 4th house. With all that Capricorn, she probably feels inhibited, restricted, and frigid,...and inadequate in social situations so she might be putting off making friends entirely.

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posted December 05, 2008 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightjar     Edit/Delete Message
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Even if you're very independent(which she probably is, the chart has expired by the way), it hardly means you'd want to be alone all the time and have zero friends.
However, pitying is a horrible approach, and your(FistOfLegend) whole view on her sounds like you're looking at her as some kind of attractive science project rather than as an equal. It also sounds like you(at least subconsciously) see yourself somehow superior to her, given the social situation she's in.

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posted December 05, 2008 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurean_scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
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I agree with you that not all people who are seemingly independent want to be alone. I was saying it's a possibility that she may have given up on making friends. I'm independent but it doesn't mean I 'want' to be alone. In my case I acted independent because I was ashamed.
I bet she has a few friends outside of school.
FirstOfLegend, maybe you could be her friend, only if you like her.

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