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darkdreamer
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posted December 07, 2008 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if it is possible to find out WHERE or WHEN we had already lived.

I thought maybe if we take the asteroids, relating to that time period or area, and see, if there are any aspects to DNA, KARMA, TRUE NODE and MOON in the natal chart, then we could be fairly certain that they may have lived there and then.

Now I am just not sure, do I only look at conjunctions or do other aspects (within 2°) count, too?

And if those asteroids are connected through aspects to other planets in synastry, this could be a sign that we knew each other during that time? (That is the point the composites could come into play, too, I guess).


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izodesmozina
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posted December 07, 2008 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, DD!

Sounds interesting! A while ago I found a table from A. T. Mann's book that associates a degree of the zodiac with a time period in our hystory. I guess this might answer the *when* question. I don't know if this was posted before, but here it is: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/astrology-time-zodiac.php

I'm curious what you guys think about it.

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izodesmozina
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posted December 07, 2008 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Another thing that might be of some insight is the South Node persona chart, with asteroids!

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darkdreamer
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posted December 07, 2008 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Ah Izo

One at a time.


Here are some examples:

my natal:

DNA conjunct Babel (1.4)
DNA conjunct Babylon (3.7)
Moon conjunct Ur (0.9)
Babel conjunct Babylon (3.3)
Chaldaea conjunct Sinbad (1.7)

DNA trine Sumeria (1.3)
Karma trine Ur (0.2)
Sumeria trine Babel (0.1)

Guy 1

DNA conjunct Babylon (2.0)

DNA opposite Ur (2.0)
MOon square Chaldaea (1.5)
Babylon opposite Ur (0.1)


The synastry:

his Moon trine my Babylon (2.1)

my DNA trine his Sumeria (0.8)
my DNA square his Babel (0.0)

my NN sextile his Mesopotamia (1.1)
my NN square his Babylon (1.3)
my NN square his Ur (1.3)

his Sumeria trine my Sumeria (0.5)
his Sumeria trine my Babel (0.6)

his Babel square my Babel (1.4)

his Chaldaea trine my Mesopotamia (2.0)

- there are several aspects, but no conjunctions


Guy 2: his natal

Moon conjunct Sinbad (1.0)

True NOde square Ur (0.4)
Babylon square Chaldaea (0.2)

- hmm, maybe he was a sailor?


synastry:

his Karma sextile my Sumeria (1.6)
his Karma sextile my Babel (1.7)

my Karma trine his Ur (0.4)

my MOon trine his Ur (0.9)

his MEsopotamia sextile my Chaldaea (1.5)

his Babel square my Sumeria (2.0)

his BAbylon trine my Mesopotamia (2.3)
his Babylon square my Babylon (0.3)

his Chaldaea opposite my Babylon (0.5)

his Ur trine my Ur (0.2)

- again no conjunctions


Guy 3: natal

Babel conjunct Sinbad (0.0)

DNA square Sumeria (0.4)
True NOde square Sumeria (0.8)
Moon sextile Babylon (0.7)


synastry:

his SN conjunct my Ur (0.2)

his DNA opposite my Ur (1.4)

his MOon square my Sumeria (2.3)

my DNA opposite his MEsopotamia (1.7)

my MOon square his Sumeria (1.9)
my MOon sextile his MEsopotamia (1.5)

his Sumeria square my Ur (1.0)

his Babel trine my Chaldaea (1.1)
his Babel trine my Sinbad (0.6)

his Ur square my Chaldaea (0.2)
his Ur square my Sinbad (1.7)

his Sinbad trine my Sinbad (0.6)
his Sinbad trine my Chaldaea (1.1)

- at least one conjunction is there


Guy 4: natal

True Node conjunct Sumeria (2.0)

DNA trine Babel (2.3)
BAbylon opposite Ur (1.0)


synastry:

my DNA conjunct his Babylon (1.8)
his BAbylon conjunct my Babel (0.4)
his Babylon conjunct my Bablyon (1.9)
his Chaldaea conjunct my Mesopotamia (3.3)
his Sinbad conjunct my Chaldaea (3.0)
his Sinbad conjunct my Sinbad (1.3)

his DNA sextile my Chaldaea (1.2)
his NN square my Ur (0.9)
my DNA opopsite his Ur (0.8)
my MOon squar ehis Sumeria (0.1)

his MEsopotamia square my Chaldaea (1.9)
his Sumeria square my Ur (1.1)
his Babylon trine my Sumeria (0.5)
his Chaldaea squar emy Sumeria (1.7)
his Ur sextile my Sumeria (0.5)
his Ur opposite my Babel (0.6)

- there are really a lot of conjunctions here!

So, could it be interepreted that way, that the first two guys may have had a Babylonian past life line, too, but they didn`t meet me?

And that the last two guys would have probably known me, especially guy 4?


BTW guy 3 and guy 4 also have interesting synastry:

MOon conjunct Sumeria (2.0)
Sumeria conjunct NN (0.1)

NN square Sumeria (1.3)
Karma sextile Babel (0.6)
BAbel opposite DNA (2.4)
Sinbad opposite DNA (2.4)
BAbel square Karma (0.0)
Sinbad square Karma (0.0)
Ur trine Karma (0.9)


Interesting, in all three synastries, between guy 1, guy 2 and me there is a Moon-Sumeria aspect.

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darkdreamer
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posted December 07, 2008 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Izo,

so let`s see.

My ASC = 1562
MC: 536
DSC: 11824 b.C.
IC: 44306 B.C.
(well, if it is true and the IC is the deepest core of our soul, then my soul reaches really far back. lol)

Sun: 1690
Moon: 1885
Mars: 1545
Jupiter: 1928
Saturn: 4501 B.C.
Vertex: 3943 B.C.


but I want to be honest; I don`t think it can be seen that easily by just counting degrees back. Don`t know, it just feel so arbitrary to me.

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spunknini
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posted December 07, 2008 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spunknini     Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD! When u have a moment can U pop over 2 LL central? I had a dream about U last night, I posted it as a new thread.

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Iqhunk
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posted December 08, 2008 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD,
I am not sure of the when, but where is possible through a combinaiton of astrology and numerology.

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darkdreamer
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posted December 08, 2008 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean with a combination of astrology and numerology?

I`m far more interested in WHERE anyway.

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buena36
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posted December 08, 2008 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD,

I will tell you without Astrology, where I had my mine Past lives:

1. First life in Turkey - Virgo (my 12th)
2. Second life in North England - Aries and Capricorn - Aries (my DC), Capricorn (my IC)
(don't know about North England, what sign is)
3. Third life in India - Capricorn (my IC),

All that, I know from my Regression: before I have started with Astrology.

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darkdreamer
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posted December 08, 2008 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Buena, I also know of some of my past lives through dreams and meditations.

However, I was interested if you can even see it in the chart. Well, in my case you definitely can.

Those signs you posted, were it the sun-signs you had in those incarnations?

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