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savanna20
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posted December 16, 2008 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
I was doing perfectly fine for a while. Lately, I've been feeling as if life has no purpose...deep down inside, I know there is a purpose, but lately I don't see it. I have withdrawn from friends and just wish to be by myself...it's like I don't have any motivation or something...

I do know that Pluto is about to transit my 4th house-the home (of inner self) and it's conjunct my IC...is that it???


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posted December 16, 2008 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn is transiting through your 12th house ~ it may be hitting some of your personal planets (can't quite see on that chart).
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transitsSaturn18.4.htm

It's not necessarily a bad thing. A time of withdrawal and contemplation helps you focus on what really matters. What is your life all about, what is the core? Make the most of it before the realities and trivia of life seep in and provide a distraction.

p.s

Is that your Moon at 24* Taurus? Looks like Saturn is moving into a Trine, actually a Grand Trine with Mars also (if I am reading that right). That could see you put this withdrawn time into practical use. Maybe something to do with future goals.

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triplepisces
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posted December 16, 2008 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplepisces     Edit/Delete Message

It might be Saturn in 12 house couple with Pluto transition.
http://www.mauricefernandez.com/forum_eng/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=3099

hope it helps


*hugs*

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Diandra23
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posted December 16, 2008 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
i know what you feel Savannah and you are not alone.

im also having that feeling and saturn passes my 12th and pluto is almost in the ic too. i have taurus moon also like you.

a friend of mine told me saturn was sqaure my nn so for me that also helps this way of feeling.

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GemGemGem
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posted December 16, 2008 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Savanna, the one thing that jumps out at me is the transit Saturn square Venus in your 3rd house. (the chart is a bit small, and my eyesight is not all that good, so I hope i'm seeing it correctly!) So I'm thinking maybe limitations in your personal relationships, and communication with others.

There is some debate as to whether the outer planet transits to eachother mean much, such as the transiting Saturn moving towards squaring your natal Neptune, (I can't see how many degrees in the chart) since a lot of people will share that. It's not quite there yet, but I have heard that transit could lead to loss of faith...whether in life, yourself, your religion, etc.. I'm no astrology expert, so it's just a guess.

I think most of all, it's important to hold onto the fact that this feeling of hopelessness will pass. As blue moon said these reclusive transits are a time to look inward. 12th House also represents spritual practice as well. Maybe you will find that reading some books, or gaining knowledge in the intangible, spiritual areas will enrich your life and give you hope again. I would recommend A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle. That book really changed my life.

I remember back in October, you were doing so well. You felt hopeful, and were moving forward. What you are feeling right now, is just a temporary "rest stop", a time to re-charge, before you get moving again. Don't lose faith! I send you a big hug from NYC!

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savanna20
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posted December 16, 2008 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message

Sorry, here's a bigger chart.

BM: Yes, my moon is at 24 degrees Taurus.

GG : You're right. I have lost faith in my religion. It's like I no longer want to read the bible as I used to.

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 16, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ savanna20 ~

under the Pluto transit ..
i.e the faster transits ..

that t.Sat. coming from your 12th is about 3 deg off a square to natal venus ..
that's just about to change as t.Sat will soon go retrograde .. on the 31st dec.
and there is that pre-change stationary period to consider ..

but i rekon this could be the main one re your header post ..
transiting Chiron square your Sun ..

t.chiron is at 17.28 aqua .. ( coming from your 5th house )
just passed squaring your Sun
(transits to natal sun often hit the hardest ..)
and now it's starting to square your natal Saturn ..
after that it squares your natal Moon

aprox over the next year you'll get hits from t.chiron on those natals ..
if your feeling low .. check what deg t.chiron is at ..
( a chiron transit to a natal is aprox. a couple of weeks )

chiron was about a degree back ( 16 ) at the begining of november ..
( is "lately" from about then )

so.. a combi. of those two under that ovelaying t.pluto to your mc/ic
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that was typed prior to the last two posts 'n with larger chart ..
slightly edited after seeing sun exact deg ..

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Dani California
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posted December 16, 2008 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani California     Edit/Delete Message
Can I join in? Am also feeling like this, just hopeless and crap

Hope don't mind me butting in *embarrassed*, thought could look at my chart as well, as I think the transits maybe similar......also am terrible at transits

Thanks guys! here is the chart:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_24gw_01_dani_c_20081216.69847.19453.gif&res=100&va=&cid=isefile9XfaRc-u1175454250

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savanna20
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posted December 16, 2008 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Happy Dragon! Thanks for reminding me it's only temporary. I hope next year gets better.

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katatonic
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posted December 16, 2008 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
saturn in 12th can definitely bring on that feeling of hopelessness, as everything you don't need falls away from you - also, i have noticed that pluto changing signs stimulates these feelings in a lot of people, no matter the aspects to your own chart,

but it has just passed over your neptune which could have a major effect on your faith not just in your religion but life in general. that particular aspect is separating now (finally) so the disorientation should fade soon...

saturn in 12th was a VERY difficult time for me but at the same time pluto was squaring my sun and uranus/nep were also conjunct in h.12, so i would think it can be easier for some, especially if you use it constructively as suggested by others up there! do not despair!

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savanna20
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posted December 17, 2008 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Katatonic for making me feel better! I was hoping it wasn't a long transit to go through...I'm sure I can be strong enough to continue hanging in there...

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missneptune
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posted December 17, 2008 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missneptune     Edit/Delete Message
I hope you feel better soon! Winter can be such a hopeless time sometimes with a lack of things happening, etc... I tend to got though bouts of hopelessness and then I sorta snap out of it, its strange how transitional life can be!

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katatonic
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posted December 17, 2008 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
savannah, glad to help. but just remember, what doesn't kill you...makes you stronger, and if you just take one day at a time you can get through any transit they've got!!

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savanna20
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posted December 17, 2008 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Very true! Good point.

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