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posted December 18, 2008 08:54 AM         

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hi iam new to this forum, I'v been lurking for a while now trying to learn more about astrology. What aspect of a natal chart indicates bad luck? I have to work very hard for everything i have( compare to others i guess). I everytime i expect something good, i always end up disapointed.i don't know how to post a chart yet. Here are my info: 12/24/1979 7:30 am Dakar, Senegal. Thanks.

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posted December 18, 2008 10:21 AM         

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Hello and Welcome to LL moi2008

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posted December 18, 2008 11:51 AM         

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Welcome moi2008 and here is your chart...

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posted December 18, 2008 01:11 PM         

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Were I you, moi2008, I would start reading all the material I could get my hands on regarding the Saturn Return.....

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posted December 18, 2008 01:21 PM         

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... and the stuff about Saturn/Neptune.

Not the easiest. I have the Opposition, with Jupiter tied in.

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posted December 18, 2008 02:41 PM         

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I would attribute this to the Pluto transit across your Ascendant and Sun. It's not "bad luck", it feels that way, but Pluto is trying to re-form your entire self and existence.

It's not an easy transit over the Sun or the Ascendant by themselves, but in your case you have the Sun/Asc conjunction, which gives it a double slap.

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posted December 18, 2008 02:48 PM         

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i second blue moon, neptune square saturn is a trial, but i'm luckier than you cause it forms a T square with neptune at the apex and saturn oppose VENUS.

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posted December 18, 2008 09:14 PM         

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Thank you all for the warm welcome. This is something i can't openely talk about with people. they might think iam just a whiner and god knows iam a hard worker,it just feels like something is sabotaging me...Anyways thanks to this site,I'm learning more about astrology and trying to used this situation to my advantage(if possible).

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posted December 19, 2008 03:00 AM         

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Hi,

Bad luck is connected with Saturn and hard aspects:

Sun square Saturn,
Neptune square Saturn.

As you have 7 planets left from Meridian it is normal that you work all yourself, as you don't like help from other people.
There was also long time Pluto in your 12th house, so is no wonder, that you had hard time.

There is also ruler of 6th, Mercury in 12th house.

You have some planets with very good aspects:

Pluto in 10th,
Uranus in 11th and
Venus (in 2nd) has trine with Saturn in 9th. I call this (last) aspect: one man woman.

Buena

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With love all things are possible!

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posted December 19, 2008 03:07 AM         

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Ooo nooo... you're an 8.

Very bad luck

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posted December 19, 2008 05:59 AM         

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Hi,

I am in 8th.

It is only other way around.

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posted December 19, 2008 06:28 AM         

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Haha, heatherdoll. Cute.

Eights are not bad luck, not by a long shot. They are incredibly ingenious and can be very powerful.

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posted December 19, 2008 12:53 PM         

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heatherdoll, is 8 bad luck? I thought it was the other way around.

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