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sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
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posted April 22, 2008 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
i am 42 and was told recently that my father was not the man i assumed was my father all of my life.There was enough of a resemblance to him and his other daughter that is my age that I sent off a DNA test. We have met twivce and talked and sent emails, he and his wife are awesome people and this waiting on the results is killing me....sometime this week. not sure if there are things you can look for in charts as far as family relationships, or if someone could do a read...I am nervous and this waiting has slowed time down to non exisistant ticking and at this point we both hope it is true....if someone wants me to post our charts I can...but I am not too sure how, I have them on astro....

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted April 22, 2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Can you give your birth data?

Make sure you give

Correct birth day
The year
The correct time
Your place of birth.

I'll take a look.

Geocosmic Valentine
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sunshine_lion
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posted April 22, 2008 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
mine is july 29 1965 12:31am monroe, mi
his is april 25 1945 no birthtime, toledo oh

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted April 22, 2008 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sunshine,

I put your chart around his chart because your chart is really just a transit chart for him on that day. There's no way to be 100% sure but if I look at this day in his life it appears that he was HIGHLY triggered emotionally and idealistically. I get that from the fact that Mars was conjunct his Moon that day. His mother could have had an emotional day or he his wife/girlfriend could have been giving birth. It's very fiery maternal and emotional energy there and the Moon rules women and children. His Moon was definitely activated that day.

Now mind you, this happens to everyone once every 2 years, but I just find it nice that it occurred on the day you were born.

That day, transiting Mars was approaching an opposition with his natal Mercury and then on to his natal Venus. Mars to Mercury suggests heated debate, arguments, fast movement, active movement and communication. His Mercury and Venus are conjunct, suggesting a lot of idealism with him. This Mars transit triggered the Mercury and then the Venus within the next 2 weeks igniting his thinking and his emotions, especially idealist emotions.

Shortly after this time, transiting Pluto conjuncted his natal Jupiter perhaps suggesting a great opportunity for him or a windfall of some sort, but there was also transiting Saturn opposing his Jupiter as well, so it was kind of a mixed blessing. Great reward along with some political tightness somewhere in that mix. He carefully evaluated this opportunity. It's something that he made happen through good strategy.

There is also a measurement of rebellion, and I'm not just talking about the sexual revolution, but the measurement of transiting Pluto square his Uranus suggests that he was caught up in that energy somehow. This was the right time for him, just as it was for everyone else of his generation. The measurement is practically exact that day.

I'm wary of giving anyone false hope, but the one measurement that suggest to me of a powerful soul relationship is that his Pluto conjuncts your Sun. This is a measurement that suggests two people can either build empires together or destroy the world together. It's a HUGE power aspect. Definitely power issues within that mix...perfect for parent and child. I mean that in a funny, sarcastic and real way. When I see that measurement it makes me think, "Well, of course! Parents and children are supposed to help each other develope through strong push and pull energies through out their entire lives. For positive and negative."

When Pluto and the Sun are together in a synastry comparison, it is also suggestive of a soulmate relationship. You will both inspire each other powerfully and dramatically. I wouldn't call it good or bad, I'd call it necessary. There are nice love energy measurements as well. I like that he has that Mercury-Venus conjunction because it suggests that he does hold tightly to idealism. Without the time for him, I can't say what area it's in, but I don't sense any fragmentation with him, although there may be/ or may have been issues of a "second agenda" in his communication cerebral styles as well as his style of loving.

Your chart suggests that there may have been some excitement within a partnership type relationship recently, perhaps a separation, some kind of upheaval, maybe even a divorce. This may have occurred over the last year or two.

I also think you've had some nervousness and a high degree of communication around your self worth, possible finances and either children/teaching or a relationship that is more of a romantic nature, not this father issue. There may be some kind of shock around the romantic, children or teaching issues within the next 3 months. Either a shock or just some extra intensity around the issue.

If I was to give you my opinion of how sure I am on a scale from 1 to 100%, I'd give it about a 75% chance that this guy is your father.

If you can confirm any of this information, I know it's impossible to know it all, especially what kind of day he was having on the day you were born, but you actually might know the story by now, so it would be helpful. This was the best I could do without knowing more of the details.

Take good care,

Geocosmic Valentine
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sunshine_lion
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posted April 23, 2008 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
WOW. You picked up on alot. Actually his other daughter was born exactly two months after me, and he wasn't in it for her either. She and I were both adopted and raised by other men with our maternal mothers.

I keep checking the identigene website, but the results are still not posted, I will let you know.

Pluto has been transiting my 8th house, and my 19 yr old twins were popped with pot and incarcerated, so theres your biggie with the children.

I left my bf last august and bought my own house, so you were right on on that one. and I recently met someone new, who rocks my whole world and yet, is very unsettling. there is pluto venus conjunct and moon square mars, hot hot hot. but scary scary scary. interesting you picked up on my transits. my son's gf is expecting a child in november, more kid stuff. hhhhmmmm... very interesting.

I hope it is true, becasue dale and his wife are the most unbelievably awesome people and I would love to have them in my life. I will find out soon. the waiting is tough. thank you for your insight.

kudo's on picking up on the transits and how right on spot you were.

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sunshine_lion
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posted April 23, 2008 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
oh, and I am not even sure he knew about the day I was born. My mothers story is she missed her period, he told her he wasn't the first and she got out of the car and walked home and never saw him again. And yet she denies that it is possible that he is my father. Back in the 60's you got married when you were 17 and preggers. She has lied about many things and I do not believe her. I don't blame her, I just want to know the truth. Admitted missing a period, and yet, she says no way that is your dad....hhhmmmm....we shall see soon. I donm't hold it against her, maybe she really didn't know, or maybe she hated him for not stepping up to the plate. not sure. can't rely on her version of the truth. He said it is possible. Guess I will know soon.

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sunshine_lion
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posted April 23, 2008 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Valentine, I sent u a friend request on myspace....

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sunshine_lion
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posted April 28, 2008 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
hi Valentine, results still aren't in. I will keep you posted. take care.

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sunshine_lion
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posted May 05, 2008 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Valentine, No Word yet on the results....You would think mercury was retro....supposed to be 3-5 day turnaround.....i has almost been 3 weeks! ugh

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted May 06, 2008 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! I wonder what the hold up is, especially if it's supposed to be a 3 to 5 day turnaround time. Gee whiz, what a way to torture people. I guess if you want fast results these days you have to go on "The Maury Povitch Show" and that's gotta be a fate worse than death.

Well, Saturn went direct today, maybe that was part of the hold up, hopefully you'll hear very soon. In the meantime, everyday is a beautiful day. Have a great one tomorrow.

Geocosmic Valentine

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deuxantares
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posted May 06, 2008 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
Geo, you're right. i'm following this story, too.

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sunshine_lion
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posted May 07, 2008 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
OMG...they told me i would get my results in 45 minutes. my nerves are so bad i could throw up.

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sunshine_lion
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posted May 07, 2008 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
dale is not my father. i feel so hurt and stupid. i had to know though. thank you for caring and trying to look at it from an astrological point of view. this hurts. i am going thru so much right now. thank you for looking at the charts.

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deuxantares
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posted May 08, 2008 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
sunshine, i don't know what to say. you are not stupid for wanting to know. i would feel the same way and do the same thing if i were in your shoes. it's ok to be sad now, grieve for some time and then move on. if you want to meet your real father, just pray and the universe will work things out for you.

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sunshine_lion
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posted May 08, 2008 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
well the wierd thing is when I looked at the results sheet today, it shows 15 chromosone matches out of 18....i think that is why they ran the test 4 times and it took so long. Dale and Emily said if we want to run it again with a diff company we can, or I can just forget the test and join the family anyway. See what I mean about them being awesome people. I think it is wierd I matched 15 out of 18 chromosomes, I think it may not be correct. I really don't know what to think, but if it was a complete stranger it would seem odd to me to match 15/18 chromosomes. real wierd.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted May 08, 2008 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sunshine_Lion,

I'm so sorry that the news was so disappointing for you. I agree with Deuxantares, there really is no reason to feel stupid at all, who wouldn't want to know who their real father is.

I'm not a geneticist, but I would think the same thing that if you had 15 out of 18 chromosomes, that sounds like a lot to me. It's completely up to you, maybe you can try a different company or...the ultimate...tell the Universe that you want to know who your father is and then have the faith that the Universe will reveal him to you. That was an excellent suggestion from Deuxantares.

Don't let this ruin a beautiful day for you, you don't get this day back so do your best to turn that frown upside down and choose to see the blessings that are banging your door down everyday. I think it's a wonderful testament to who you are as a person that this man and his wife would be more than pleased to include you in their family no matter what. Please take that in...

Now that I've given you the "Cheer up" speech, I'll now tell you to have your real feelings about it, it's alright to process your disappointment, I'm sure it won't last forever. You're definitely in my thoughts and I'm holding you in my Valentine heart.

Geocosmic Valentine

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