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JustAmanda
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posted August 14, 2008 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
could someone look at her info and let me know if there is something the Universe can inform me of please?

PLEASE PLEASE...

her info is as follows...

7/31/1990
8:17pm
Roanoke Va

thank you so much...I'm just at a loss with her...

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 14, 2008 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
symathy to you. having a terrible time with my leo daughter lately too. 21 yrs old. I believe I created a monster. Good luck and godspeed to the both of us.

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JustAmanda
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posted August 14, 2008 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
That is exactly how I feel Sunshine!! She said some of the most horrible things to me and my husband last night and I had to call her father to come and get her. Actually my husband (her stepfather since she was 2) physically set her out of the house...

I'm so upset today I've been on the verge of tears all day long..

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 14, 2008 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
I totally understand.

My daughter said horrid things to me last week. I lost my temper completely and threw her out too. and her boyfriend and her dogs. she has been so disruptive.

SO unbelievably ungrateful and disrespectful.

I can't imagine talking to my parents the way she talked to me. She wants to make the rules. she wants to run my house. run me. Trust me honey. I know what you are going thru. SHe is aug 4th 1987. I am also leo july 29. I had just had all I could take. ZShe absolutely thinks she is better than everyone else, and treats people terribly. The world owes her a everything and bring it on a silver platter please. I wondered if the eclipse on the first brought it out. I want to choke the ever loving crap out of her.

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 14, 2008 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
seriously, look at my last weeks post in linda central., something about cherries can be hazordous. I had to delete most of it becasue I felt like a terrible parent wat what I had wrote, but man I had just been pushed way too far.

Trust me honey, it isn't you. and don't feel bad at your hubby for putting her disrepectful butt out. I have an idea how it went down, and it wasn't you guys, i pretty much guarantee it.

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JustAmanda
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posted August 14, 2008 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Sunshine and your post sounds sooooooo much like what has happened and how Emily is...I just don't get it...I've given her EVERYTHING material wise AND love wise...and she wants more more more...

her myspace status reads "rejected" tonight...that hit me like a ton of bricks because I'm so upset over all this. And I talked with her father tonight and he is a bit angry at my husband for the way he acted yesterday however if her father been the one she was screaming at, he would have knocked her teeth out.

This is a horrible nightmare and I want to wake up...

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 18, 2008 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
I hope things are getting better.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted August 19, 2008 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi JustAmanda,

Transiting Neptune is quindecile her Descendant and exactly quindecile her Descendant/Sun midpoint. She’s feeling high sensitivity about others' opinions; feels like she’s being duped; being disregarded. Now, this is from her perspective, whether she’s right or not is a different story, but her chart reflects how she’s viewing it.

Also, transiting Pluto is quindecile her Venus. Venus rules the 4th House of the mother, the early childhood home and or the parents in general. Her Venus also rules her 9th house of higher education and I’m wondering if this whole situation has to do with her going to school. I’m assuming school issues simply because she’s 18 and it’s August and everyone is about to begin college. If it’s not higher education then it could be long distance travel or legal issues, religion/spirituality, publishing, philanthropy.

There are other strong echoes in her chart suggesting that she’s very confused about her self worth, how worthy she really is. Did a recent relationship dissolve for her? Everything having to do with “other people” or relationships in general is extremely confusing for her right now, it’s as if they are all dissolving or deceiving her in some way. She’s also very confused about how she should be presenting herself to the world or she is purposely suppressing the way she presents herself to the world. She’s experiencing some kind of ego wipe-out or her main relationship/s are experiencing ego wipe-out.

There is also a heavy focus on father energy and/or career also, and once again, how she presents herself to the world. There may be something very dark or powerful about her presentation or, as you already said, she’s coming across as very selfish, her MC suggests that she could excel as a big corporate business type person if she chooses and perhaps you’re feeling her C.E.O energy. There’s also huge pressure from a paternal figure, she may find that things are not much better with her own father than with her step father. Any paternal figure is going to give her pressure. She needs to understand that this is an age where there’s lots of pressure to move on, to “do the right thing” even though she’s young and may not fully understand what the right thing is.

But, remember that as she’s pushing you for “things” and acting as if she deserves everything she wants, it’s coming from a place where she’s feeling very worthless right now. She may feel that way until she “understands” that the situation is truly otherwise.

I don’t know if she’s going on to college this year or next year, but all of that kind of energy is swirling around in her chart, higher education, career, long distance travel perhaps to get to college or if she has one more year of high school, it’s all in the air for her to consider this year. All of this stuff isn’t completely over yet, but her chart shows that all of this is going to be dealt with, you’re all moving through it. We have all gone through some of this at her age, whether it’s before 18 or after 18. You guys all just need to hold on and move through this life development growth spurt together.

Good luck to all of you, you will all get through this one day at a time.

Other astrologer and readers may feel free to jump in on this as well, I didn't do a full interpretation on this. Also, JustAmanda, if you can confirm any of this whether it's correct or not, that would help me a lot also. Thanks.

Geocosmic Valentine
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JustAmanda
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posted August 20, 2008 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
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She’s feeling high sensitivity about others' opinions; feels like she’s being duped; being disregarded. Now, this is from her perspective, whether she’s right or not is a different story, but her chart reflects how she’s viewing it

Yes, she is being highly sensitive to everything going on. She has stated she feels rejected, even though she was the one screaming at the top of her lungs that she hated me and her stepfather.

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Venus rules the 4th House of the mother, the early childhood home and or the parents in general. Her Venus also rules her 9th house of higher education

Well the whole situation was between me, my husband and her. Her real father became involved later on after the huge blow up at my house. She was supposed to start college this week, but due to all this, she has no car to get her there, as we took it away. And her father did not get her the loan for the money he promised her he would get. He has told her she will have to save the money herself to go. And I'm grief stricken over it all, I wanted so much for her to go to college. Get a degree so she didn't have to struggle and suffer financially like I have all my life...what a disappointment this has been to me...especially after I've given her everything humanly possible.

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There are other strong echoes in her chart suggesting that she’s very confused about her self worth, how worthy she really is. Did a recent relationship dissolve for her? Everything having to do with “other people” or relationships in general is extremely confusing for her right now, it’s as if they are all dissolving or deceiving her in some way.

She holds herself in VERY low self esteem. We've battled with this for years now. I've done everything to make her feel better about herself. She's never had a steady boyfriend, every potential love relationship she's been in, has ended disasterouly. I've had to doctors, on anti depressants, etc...she refused to get out of bed and finish the last month or so of high school and had to go to summer school in order to graduate. She tried counseling but that didn't pan out very well either...


I'll type more later..the more I type the more upset it makes me...

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katatonic
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posted August 23, 2008 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
Sunshine lion, YOUR daughter is going through her first Uranus square. a trying time for parents to say the least, but probably just as much so for the child!

Amanda, adding to the above, i see that her sun is RIGHT on the eclipse point of Aug 1, on her descendant - so she is seeing her problems in the people closest to her? and saturn has just squared her moon, but is moving off it now so her seeing YOU as the enemy/frustrator should be starting to pass now...

as Geocosmic suggested, we've all been through this, as kids or as parents, and it does pass...individuation is hard on both sides, and especially if you have been close, then there seems to be a need to embody all their problems in you (mother, or both parents)...you still have her uranus square coming up, but despite people's belief that the teen years are the hardest, my experience tells me that the LATE teens/early 20s can be worse...again, especially if you have been very close...she needs to separate from you to find herself, at all costs...just know that she is still the child you raised and if you don't react codependently or otherwise blow it out of proportion she will again be that child - but grownup! which is as delightful as this is hard...!XX

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 25, 2008 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
I think I need to read about the uranus squares.

Thanks katatonic.

an update...It hasn't been as bad. Her and her BF got an apt. He got a job as apt. maintanance man and part of his salary is an apartment! Which is GREAT! She still wants to keep her room at my house, which is also fine.

She decided to graduate her 2 yr degree this fall, and then continue at the other university...she had financial issues too, her scholorship and aid money got slowed down, so alot of things were up in the air for her. I think it will work out fine. Things will happen the way they are supposed to. anyway, thank you for your input.

I hope things are calming down for just amanda too.

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 25, 2008 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
WOW..Uranus transits opposite Sun

A time when considerable tension could accumulate, with release coming in the form of unexpected bursts of temper that may well involve other people. You may find yourself feeling rebellious, challenging those in authority or the established order.

This is a period of sudden awakenings that can lead to greater independence and personal freedom, more authentic self expression, and living your life more on your own terms. You may well have to take a stand, in a way that is controversial or sets you apart from the crowd. In fact, a direct confrontation with some authority in your life may be the splash of cold water in the face which forces you to wake up. Or, you may simply become unwilling (as this time period progresses) to live within the confines of your old life.

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sunshine_lion
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posted August 25, 2008 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
OMG>..How accurate is this! She has nateal 4th house uranus!

For example, if you have Uranus in the Fourth house there is a subtle divine imperative that you rebel against your family of origin in some way. You don't have to do it dis-respectively and you don't have to stop loving and communicating with them. However, you are called to break the rules of the family myth here—as the family myth may sound like this: 'Isn't it funny how all the men on this side of the family are bi-polar?' Or 'Isn't it funny how all the women of this family marry abusive men?’ With Uranus in the fourth house you probably have heard some variation of a 'not-so-funny’ theme like this handed down the family line and you're going to need to make a conscious effort to break this family legacy.


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