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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 08, 2009 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
There is a very complex interlacing of energies in this composite chart, and I would be really appreciative of anyone who can help me decipher it. I can analyze the parts fairly well, but I'm hoping someone with a more intuitive approach may see a synthesis which I cannot. The primary theme of this relationship appears to be healing, and the chart seems to reflect it (note the Moon-Pluto sextile forming a Yod to Chiron). As you can see, there is a complex of energies tightly linking every planet except the Sun and Uranus. The Neptune/Moon/Mars stellium is enough to make your head spin, and the square to Merc/Venus further boggles the spinning head. The trine, inconjunct and yod aspects to Chiron are equally problematic for me. This relationship began suddenly and powerfully (Sun/Uranus) and it is definitely active on every level; physical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual... It definitely has that "too good to be true" flavor (Venus-Neptune). Basically, it looks like there is just so much going on in this relationship... everything is going on with this relationship, lol. Help!! Help me widdle it down to something manageable.. what the heck is going on here?


Thanks!


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Chryseis
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posted February 08, 2009 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Hi HSC

I like to refer to the composite charts with whole sign system.

Financial dramas...

Earnings in the relationship will be inconsistent and small(ruler6,mars in 2 conj moon/nep). Ideally, you will both initially try to justify these difficulties in ways like - we can live on potatoes, as long as we have each other and our friends, pets, music(Jup conj Chir 8, trine venus/merc 11). However, the T-square between the planets on the 8th cusp and the sun in 11, uranus in 2nd, will end up leaving one of you home on your own as evening sets in while the other is away gaining emotional support from friends and family (and probably a good meal).

Having said that, it does have its qualities. Ruler of the 5th, neptune, is in the 2nd and with the patterns of the other rulerships it gives a wonderful picture of being one of those relationships that you would treasure and feel good about when it is kept on a bubbling social, light, and all the good things about romantic dalliance kind of level.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 08, 2009 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting take, thank you.

Still...
Using whole sign houses,
that would put Jupiter in the 8th,
ruling the 2nd house and
drawing in resources, --
maybe sudden inheritances (uranus)...

The Midheaven "suffers" only sextiles and trines;
most notably, perhaps, a sextile to Saturn; no slouch.
Saturn is also stabilizing the 2nd house stellium,
with Pluto giving plenty of resiliance.

But, we'll see.

The trine of Venus-Chiron interests me,
since this is said to be a true love aspect in synastry,
and, here, Chiron is in the 7th conjunct Jupiter.
Already the theme of healing is pronounced, and,
even if we do end up jumping the karmic ship,
it would appear that there is potential for healing.
Most relationships are not meant to last forever,
and I think many problems develop simply because
couples try to hold onto the relationship even
after it has outlived its essential usefulness.

This may not be someone to settle down and build a home with,
but, she may very well be someone with whom an experience
of mutually beneficial healing may take place.
Letting the relationship be what it is meant to be,
w/o forcing it to our wills, may be the key to unlocking its potential.

Thanks again for your input. I'll keep it in mind.

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Chryseis
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posted February 08, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
HSC,

I agree about Jupiter bringing inheritances and and such(backed up by uranus in 2nd), but I think they would be blown pretty quickly on just 'stuff'eg. wild short holidays, maybe a pink moped, perhaps a small castle for guest accommodation, that kind of thing...Ultimately though, the bacon(or the tofu)won't be in the fridge very often, and the bits and pieces accumulated will be fun at the time but impractical for day to day living.

The problem with relying on the pluto/saturn conj is that these are difficult placements for these planets. Pluto gives a pressing need to confront self-destructive urges, deep fears etc. Saturn in the 12th too is pretty hard to cope with, due to feeling powerless, isolated, and full of self-doubt. So yeah they would be more inclined to be 'work' aspects and learning curves to do with this social/economic scenario - good for self-development and values clarity but exhausting.

The venus/chiron/ is dissipated and disturbed by the square to the 2nd house stellium. It would probably lead to behaviours such as hoarding resources and items from each other.

On a positive note, the same venus/mercury trine to chiron/jupiter is contacting uranus in the 2nd. So again, there would be quite a bit of thrill with breaking with traditional values. You might decide to set up a retreat for artists, writers, and actors - dining would be al fresco, no one would be held to time schedules, that kind of thing.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 08, 2009 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
When 12th house planets are well aspected, and receiving no major challenging aspects,
it is generally supposed that they signify profound resources which are easily tapped;
this is not just the house of self-undoing, but the house of salvation.

I think it is rather curious that you would just assume that we would be so careless in our spending.
Whatever the composite chart may suggest, two people dont just meet and suddenly become idiots.
Speaking for myself, I've never been materialistic or extravagant; certainly not inclined to buy guest castles, lol.
And if the money was received as a gift or inheritance, what sort of jerk would I be to spend it so recklessly?

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The venus/chiron/ is dissipated and disturbed by the square to the 2nd house stellium.
It would probably lead to behaviours such as hoarding resources and items from each other.

Wow, you sound like quite the pessimist.
You know, one could equally say that the square would empower the trine.
Trines grow lazy without dynamic aspects to spur them into manifesting their highest potentials.
And when planets involved in a square also make a trine, the trine works to alleviate the tension of the square.
Its like a pinball being knocked back and forth between the squaring planets, and then launched into the trine.

There's plenty in this chart to suggest some beautiful and profound shared experiences.
Why do you seem so intent on seeing the worst, and convincing me of the worst?
Despite your comments, I'm determined to enter this relationship with a sense of hope.

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Chryseis
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posted February 08, 2009 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Are you asking for an interpretation or reassurance?

Not to denigrate this thread, of course you should retain your own beliefs - that is as it should be.


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 08, 2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not looking for reassurance, but your "interpretation" struck me as absurdly negative.

Moreover, I felt moved to suspect your motives. But I will say no more of that.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 08, 2009 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
HSC, I'm sure Chryseis was only trying to help, and I don't think she was trying to be negative - nor do I think she has 'motives'.

If the relationship feels good to you, then it's all good, and shouldn't matter what anyone else says.

Uranus in the 1st and square the Sun makes me think the feelings came out of the blue in a way. I had this aspect in composite with someone years ago who had the most profound effect over me in a relationship which actually lasted a long time (contrary to popular belief that Sun square Uranus means it's all fleeting)

I don't know much about Yods, though I have one in my own natal chart....

It seems you've both been hit pretty hard with this and won't be the same.

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Chryseis
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posted February 09, 2009 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks MVM

HSC, go to astro.com and read the composite interpretations under AstroClick Partner. Of course they haven't used whole signs but you'll be able to get the same idea without too much trouble.

Personally, I like to be objective, it suits my Sun conj Ura, my aquarian asc, and my moon in gemini. I'm not terribly good at sweetening things up so I may seem a bit cold in my assertions.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 10, 2009 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
My Sun, Venus, and Midheaven conjuncting Uranus in the 11th house,
and my Aquarius Moon are all attuned to, and appreciate of, objectivity...

And my Mars/Merc in Sag is no stranger to weilding the blunted tongue sword.

Be that as it may...

I'm sorry I over-reacted, but your interpretations were almost rudely negative.

I feel sort of like I am having to defend Aphrodite here.

I dont see the point in so heavy-handedly trying to discourage a romance.

Love shouldnt be discouraged, when there is a chance.

This person and I both have Jupiter in the 7th (or 8th, depending on the system),
and you can see Jupiter in the 7th/8th house of the composite there;
seems to me that even a "bad" relationship could be very good.

Venus trine Chiron in synastry is said to be a true love aspect,
and I would imagine the effects are not so different in the Composite,
especially with Chiron conjunct Jupiter in the 7th.

I've read the interps on astro.com...
Even the most difficult aspects have higher potentials,
and, in many cases, the possibilities are intensely encouraging.

I agree with many astrologers that it is irresponsible
and poor practice to try to scare people with negative interpretations;
that you shouldnt even point out trouble spots
unless you can also suggest ways to turn them to advantage.

And when it comes to romance... jesus! Give it a chance!!

I have to sift through ten thousand people before i even find someone who might fit --
people like me dont have matches walking around all over the place, you know.

And as a Scorpio (with Sun conjunct Venus), relationships are practically my life blood.
The last thing you want to do is place stumbling blocks between me and the objects of my desire.

That's all I'm saying.

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writesomething
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posted February 11, 2009 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Sun conj Ura, my aquarian asc, and my moon in gemini.

WOW what a great combo!

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Chryseis
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posted February 11, 2009 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
well thank ye, writesomething!

hsc, well i did say, "wonderful picture of being one of those relationships that you would treasure and feel good about..."

If I've come across as rude it probably is because I generally am, lol, it's not personal...

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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 11, 2009 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
"If I've come across as rude it probably is because I generally am..."

LOL, Chryseis

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 11, 2009 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
No, I guess it wouldn't be personal for you.

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Chryseis
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posted February 12, 2009 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
lol MVM, you are bad for me! teehee, no you are an

hsc, let's put this whole thing behind us shall we? I know you might still feel a grievance towards me but lets count it as water under the bridge.

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