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lechien
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posted March 04, 2009 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
I seriously need to figure out just WHAT I should and can do for life. I have lots of creative skills and have had jobs from waitress to sewing artist's assistant to bar girl to nude model for drawing classes to language teacher to... yea lots of random-ish jobs, but never professional contract jobs. i'm 31 now, and facing a crucial point in life where i MUST choose something and make it a way to build my future. it's not just about "hey it's about time i should have a regular job", but it involves lots of other things that will determine my future depending on whether i succeed to find my "job" or fail. i think I should have a "focus" than wandering about different areas...

i had an art education my whole life. but a long story short, i don't make art anymore and i don't necessarily look for something in this area (but can, if that's what works).

This is my chart. what do you see that i may follow and have a decent success? by "success" i don't mean fame or becoming rich, but something that works and i can get stable income from so that i can support myself... i don't really know what i should look for in a chart, 6th house?

i hope my question makes sense. and if anyone can help me with something other than astrology, i'm grateful for that too. thank you.

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posted March 04, 2009 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Your 6th house would be general employment unless you have a stellium or something in there, which might indicate healing or something along those lines.

Look to your Midheaven, 10th house (career), and your North Node. Also look to your 1st house stellium...

I've had a similar dilemma myself lately and I'm 35 but things seem to be falling into place and I am still scared because my artistic life is on hiatus at the moment.

With a background in art and Libra as your North Node in the 10th, have you considered teaching through art, or doing something along those lines? With Midheaven in Virgo I'd think that giving back to the community in some way would be important to you....I keep seeing that Pluto conjunct your NN and wondering if helping others with their art or teaching or something along those lines would work for you. With the 1st house activity, you'd get attention. You should own a business, something art-oriented. A studio or something. You'd do well.
Also, your 2nd house is ruled by Saturn, and it makes a nice aspect to the ruler of your MC and 10th house ruler, Virgo. So, I feel you would make money at what you choose.

What do you think?

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lechien
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posted March 04, 2009 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
really? MyVirgoMask, thanks for your insight!

well, art, you say? hmm... the thing is that i've gone through major dissapointment in art in general in the last few years, and although i've studied art literally my whole life, i've suddenly lost all interest in it. but maybe that's it's just a phase that i am facing to re-consider and re-digest the medium? hmm...

and, yea as you say, i've read about some of my aspects relating to teaching and helping others. and i've always felt very strange about it! i see myself as pretty self-consumed and incapable of caring for others. i don't mind giving helping hands to others, but as soon as they become clingy or start to hinder me, i easily get impatient (though i try not to act like that). so i always thought i'd be the farthest person from teaching.

hmm...! ok, i don't mean to sound like i test you or anything, but would you have also thought something like that if i didn't mention i studied art? is it because of the libra NN? it's not like i don't agree with what you say. i'm just trying to see it from a more objective perspective. as a person who has given up art, it feels strange to be drawn back to it again in this way.

i'm also thinking i am capable of doing something related to language and history. with my strong Sagittarius in natal, maybe they could be good too? like, i had a job opportunity as a foreign language tour guide for an educational establishment before (which i couldn't take due to life circumstance). also i make music in a band, which is pretty much a hobby and i don't really know how it can turn into a professional job stuff... but maybe it's something.

hey sorry i sound so un-decisive... it's really giving me a headache! it's like, i can't focus on one thing because i think i can do this and that and that and this too. sort of like too many possibilities giving me no option...

i hope things will somehow fall into places as yours do, instead of falling apart and crumbling down! it's scary. i guess i should really look into more art related stuff if that seems to be the best for me. but as i said earlier, i'm not ready to take art into my life back again...

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posted March 04, 2009 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LOL. The responsibility of caring for others can drive me up the wall at times, I should know (I do spiritual advising but have Moon oppose Uranus and just need my space sometimes LOL)

I felt art because of Libra NN and your mention of art (it tied in, so it was a combo of the 2 that made me suggest it).

I think with Pluto on your 10th it's transformation of career. That means your career is in flux usually, so you probably need something that is going to challenge you constantly to grow and stretch. And I DO think it needs to be creative, otherwise you will lose interest. But creative doesn't necessarily mean art. Pluto MAKES *anything* creative. So you won't need to sweat the decision once you get there, because you've got some kind of built-in thing in your chart that looks like it probably rejects anything that isn't creative...or interesting.

The language thing sounds great - go with it. What transits are you going through, btw?

Trying to integrate the art stuff into your life....well, jeez, I am kind of trying to do the same thing. It's gone out the window in the past 1-2 years and I'm wondering what the hell is going on. But I'm so focused on starting my own business right now, it might be that I am just ....too focused to cut loose and entertain the muse or be entertained by it.

I think it's good to start thinking about this stuff, and you've got the process going, but don't bully yourself into choosing a path. Your Pluto won't like it and doesn't seem to like being boxed in
That's why I strongly feel you should probably work for yourself, or do some kind of work that is going to challenge you creatively.

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lechien
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posted March 04, 2009 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
oh you are SO right about my losing interest in anything that's NOT creative...!

can you perhaps see whether a good transit is coming for me in this area or not in the next few years...? i'm the sort of person who tackle whatever that comes by, and I'm hoping one of the jobs i take will lead to a more solid career base. as i feel that trying new things and feeling it out is the best way, than applying for jobs without not really knowing how it will be like...

as you say, doing something for myself sounds the best for me too, or doing something like an artist's assistant as i've done before. something that has the potential of creative development. i can't say i have much business sense tho...

but ok. before i was thinking i may even look into mundane office jobs (which i've never tried) if that's something that may help stabilize my life. but i guess i'm better off sticking to my creative side?

this is what's going on with the transit right now...

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posted March 04, 2009 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
i'm worried about the t. Saturn approaching my MC though...

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posted March 04, 2009 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
actually, it came to me that for this year's solar return i have a stellium in the 6th house... but i'm just starting to learn to reading Solar return chart and don't have a clear idea about it rather than something about my health or work front will be featured this year?

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posted March 04, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Don't worry about Saturn hitting your MC - that's probably what's made you start thinking about all this too (that and your Saturn Return).
It's not bad to have Saturn there, it's making you think in a more sober, realistic way (which might also be why the art stuff isn't so prominent for you right now)...but it's also not going to make you rush into any decision for the long-term. You can trust Saturn to help you make good decisions - he won't ever let you do anything that doesn't feel right to you for you (that's one of the nice things about Saturn).

And wow - Pluto's right on your Sun in the 1st! That looks like it's a real boost. How does that feel? I got finished having it square my Sun not so long ago, and it's moving out of my 8th....now THAT was one of the most painful times for me. The square is not nice.

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posted March 04, 2009 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
aw, sorry to hear you went through tough times with Pluto square!

well, with mine it's actually passed over the Sun and on Mercury now. I can definitely say i went through a major transformation in the last decade, especially in the last few years when it was hitting the latter part of my 1st house over the Sun. When it was on it, I felt like I had NEVER felt so strong and empowered, and believed i could challenge anything and make things happen. so i set out to make a huge bet to build something for my future. unfortunately, i don't know what happened but it coincided with the most unfortunate year of my life and it was as if fate was doing everything to crush me. in the end i felt that i didn't want to keep on living because it got so harsh. but i'd say it would have been the end of me if Pluto wasn't on my Sun, for it took a lot to bring me down to that point... i'm probably yet to learn the lesson completely, because i sort of wonder if things were going well i could have used the power and confidence to construct something practically instead of just enduring the misfortunes. i suppose i definitely gained spiritual growth, but i failed to construct the base for the future of my life...

and what you said about t/ Satturn hitting MC makes sense, and phew, that's good to know. thank you!

mvm, may i ask what your business is? and you are trying to integrate art into it? what kind art do you make, you are an artist? i really hope all will go well for you!! great luck to us!

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posted March 05, 2009 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Lechien, my job is spiritual counselor - I do tarot, etc., past life reads. So I'm starting my own website finally and it's nice.
I'm a writer though I've not had inspiration kick in for 2 years and I am trying to complete my 2nd book. I also am designing jewelry.

All of this stuff - the writing and the jewelery- is going to get funneled into my site. That's how I am trying to integrate it. But I've been ODDLY business mode lately. My Sun is conj t. Saturn, and it's been making me super focused on MONEY. Which is VERY weird for me. I am usually not so interested in my financial future. But I think Saturn is making me go, 'Hey! This counts! You like art and travel, so make some money, dummy, and supplement it!'

Anyway....I am sure you will be fine. It sounds like you've got a leg up on all this stuff anyway. Knowing the transits, paying attention, being aware...all of that is tremendously important and it's usually what kicks us in the butt when we're not paying attention. So hurray for you!!!

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lechien
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posted March 05, 2009 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
oh that's really cool. i knew you mentioned you are a spiritual counselor, but i wasn't sure if that was the business you started, that's great. we got a few things in common tho, i also used to make silver jewelry and am a writer for a magazine(s) too. and use tarot too.

well, thanks so much for all your encouraging advice, mvm, i hope right chances come by and i grab it at the right time too. i hope all will go well with your business!

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posted March 06, 2009 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Lechien....same for you!!

Wow....we've got a lot in common O_O

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posted March 06, 2009 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message

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