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aerialcircus
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posted July 14, 2009 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
It seems that over the past few months I've had a lot of trouble getting people to perceive me clearly (well, I usually do, but it's noticeably worse now). I'm hoping maybe there's something in my transits or my SR that can pinpoint why.

People seem suspicious of my motives lately, disregard or beat around the things I say as if walking on eggshells, or seem almost afraid that I'm going to hurt them in some way or act crazy, etc. This extends to personal relations as well as family. Everyone around me just seems so sketched out, no matter what I do. Trying to un-sketch them has probably made it worse.

Maybe it's all in my head? I can say without any doubt that absolutely nothing about me has changed, at least as far as I can tell. I don't have a reputation for being an untrustworthy person- maybe a little too impulsive and at times a bit flaky, but not untrustworthy or hurtful.

This all started in March when I attempted to reconnect with an old friend I'd lost touch with. He was an old roommate of mine; we never dated or had any interest in each other romantically (as far as I know), never had any major blow outs, and always had a blast together (He's a 7th house double Aquarius, Leo Rising, Venus retrograde in 6th Capricorn conjunct my Moon). Our friendship only waned because I moved away, not because of anything personal. But when I approached him to see if he wanted to go get a drink sometime, he responded by telling me he was "too old to move backward in his life" and all of this other bizarre, completely nonsensical (and oddly confrontational) stuff that left me confused AND paranoid. Since then it seems like I'm encountering this EVERYWHERE- what's the deal? SR Scorp Rising?

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Lucia23
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posted July 14, 2009 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
God, I'm crap at reading transits, but is TSaturn square your Neptune there? Or near it?

What you're describing sounds like Saturn/Neptune stuff to me--just people not getting you, in a weird and inexplicable way, and rejections that make no sense based on your personality, their personality, or anything.

I had Saturn square my natal Neptune (in my 11th), and it was that way. Some of its mysteries are still unsolved.

If not Saturn-Neptune, it might just be everyone's weird intensity in their own lives from this eclipse cycle.

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bopbop
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posted July 15, 2009 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, our moons and ascendants are exactly in the same place. Hello my sister. XD

Wait... that means Lilith is over my moon as well... I just posted a thread about Lilith... NO! She strikes again!

ANYWAY (sorry Leo merc taking hold), the first thing that jumps out from the SR is the Uranus conjunct Mars. That could be where people are seeing you as unpredictable, also SR pluto is squaring it... with Scorp rising opp Mercury could point to the misunderstandings in communications. Saturn looks well placed to me though... in it's own house, a grand trine, but with an opp to mars would stir action, although the uranus friction (even though that is more global so maybe why other people are getting involved), in virgo which is very careful.

This is just a wild-azz theory, but perhaps because Pisces Venus is your normal mode of expression to the public (10th) with it's generous lazy trine to Jupiter and zesty square to Uranus, the difference between that and instead a possibly judgemental Virgo Saturn, unafraid to communicate and demand it needs (trine merc and moon), vacillating between control and an air of erratic force (opp mars/uranus) you appear unusually overbearing or untrustworthy... especially since t. Saturn was opposing your n. venus recently.

Also going from a Gem Asc. to a Scorp sounds interesting. I'll be doing that too come next week.

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aerialcircus
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posted July 15, 2009 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia, when I did a google search for "saturn square neptune transit", the first result was a LindaLand thread started by you! I checked Venus Group for my upcoming transits and apparently it starts this October. Lovely! I start Neptune square Uranus tomorrow, too. I have a lot of tNeptune stuff happening in general lately (trine Pluto, sextile Sun). Neptune needs to STOP PICKING AT ME immediately. And as far as eclipse season goes, it might be lock-myself-in-the-closet time. I know I keep saying that, but it just keeps being more true!

Bopbop, I'd actually noticed our similarities before in a few of your other posts! I rarely meet astrotwins- Cap Moon w/ a Gemini Rising isn't something I see very often (you, me and Patsy Cline in the club, apparently). I think the Gem Ascendant softens my Moon a bit, or at least helps to occasionally draw me out of my Cap Moon cave.

Your interpretation of my SR seemed pretty spot on- especially your wild theory. "a possibly judgemental Virgo Saturn, unafraid to communicate and demand it needs (trine merc and moon), vacillating between control and an air of erratic force (opp mars/uranus) you appear unusually overbearing or untrustworthy" sounds exactly like the way people have been treating me, walking on eggshells like I'm a live firework waiting for an excuse to blow their hands off if they touch me.

Do either of you have any ideas what I can do to remedy this? So far I've just been laying low, trying to be as chill as possible and hoping it'll just go away. But it's making me bonkers!

When I saw the Scorp rising and grand Earth trine in my solar return I was really thankful for them- the past two years my SR's have been dominated with Aries/Virgo inconjuncts, so an easy flow of energy under an overall feeling of transformation was much (much!) needed.

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PeaceAngel
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posted July 15, 2009 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
You exude a lot of confidence (whether you actually feel it or not is another matter) and for people who don't feel as strong in themselves, it's threatening and they feel inferior.

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aerialcircus
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posted July 15, 2009 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
PA, that's been an issue my entire life! So wise of you to perceive that, as usual. People seem to see me as this impenetrable wrecking ball, but I'm actually an ooey gooey trainwreck. Not too many people can handle both sides of that coin at once in close proximity. Learning how to reconcile that dichotomy is one of the major lessons I have in this life, I think.

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PeaceAngel
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posted July 15, 2009 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
It's a hard balance - because you want to offer yourself the same sensitivity and opportunity for freedom of expression that you want to be able to bring to others. It's hard accounting for the feelings of others all the time, to the detriment of your own. At some stage, you just have to say you're going to be sensitive, but also, give yourself the freedom to be you and not be accountable for how other people perceive things and let them take responsibility for their own self-esteem, etc.

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PeaceAngel
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posted July 15, 2009 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I think, if you are coming from a really honest place inside yourself and from compassion, then you can walk freely knowing that you're the best you can be for yourself, and that where others can be jealous or threatened by that, they can equally be inspired - to be the best of themselves. How they take you is not your responsibility.

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bopbop
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posted July 16, 2009 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with PeaceAngel. All you can do is be yourself and try not to worry about what others think of you (I should take my own advice!) as long as your not a jerk in the process (which I highly doubt you are, besides a person who is a jerk usually knows it haha).

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aerialcircus
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posted July 17, 2009 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks PA & Bopbop , I think that for a lot of people the line between jerk & headstrong is VERY thin, and I tend to guard my freedom pretty fiercely. I have a sneaking suspicion that all this weirdness is somehow tied in to two specific relationships I've ended over the past handful of years- a "bros before hoes" kind of thing, maybe? My friends (past, present AND future) are SO important to me, though- I certainly have a pack mentality- that it is really, REALLY bumming me out that this is happening. I know I can make new friends, but it just seems like such a shame. Sighhhhhh.

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cathy
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posted July 18, 2009 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy     Edit/Delete Message
I'm very new to this site. I don't know if this is the correct forum for my question. I
had my son at as a very young unmarried teenager,he was so loving to me I was'nt a
good mother he was wise and a natural born
artist I was 3000 miles away on Feb.19/93 he
was found dead and to this day no one knows
or seems to care whether it was suicide or
a murder. My daughter who is 5 years younger
is'nt close to me since she married, so I seem to dwell more on what if my son were still around. Sorry if I'm rambling on I've
had a few glasses of wine to get up the nerve to ask if anyone could tell anything
from his birth data which is Sept.25/65 at
10:20 am in Toronto,Ontario,Canada. Thanks.

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