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Shankara
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posted February 10, 2010 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
I felt I found my soul mate, the soul I have been literally dreaming about/with for years. We've been talking at work for about 3 months now, though at first we were just friends though I knew we could talk about anything, had the same sense of humor, etc. Once we went out for the first time about a month ago, I knew it was HIM. It was up and down for a few weeks, he would get scared and run, but eventually he admitted that we had a soul connection, and decided to stop resisting it. For a week things were great, concluding this weekend when I went to his house, he cooked me dinner, we held each other and I felt that same soul mate love and merging, we kissed for the first time (and a little more), and I was mentally thanking God that he had brought this man to me. He asked me "officially" to be his girlfriend and told me he loves me, and has since we went out the first time but was scared. The next say he called and we made plans to go out this weekend, he was going to meet me in my town (he lives 30 minutes away).

The next day I was in a horrible mood, maybe I was picking something up because out of nowhere he was very distant. We work together and he said he wanted to maintain a distance at work (we were never unprofessional before but would always talk). I thought it was strange and wasn't happy but whatever. Yesterday again he wouldn't talk to me so I went up to him and asked him if he was feeling better (he had said he was in a horrible mood the day before), he said no. Basically he said that he thought about it and decided he didn't want to be with me, that it was nothing I did, just personal stuff. I was floored and furious; I could not believe he was doing this to me again, especially after we told each other we loved each other.

I was having a hard time anyway doing my job since the day before, but after that I almost walked out. I flipped out more than I thought I could. At home I just felt like I wanted to die. My mind could not process this; I couldn't believe I had been so wrong about someone; I KNEW this was the man I was supposed to marry and I KNEW he felt the same way. But what could I think other than that he had been playing me? My mom just kept saying he was an ******* and she'd never respect him. I felt like my whole life was falling apart; this issue made me realize other things in my life that were not what I wanted but that I'd been ignoring. I wrote him a few nasty emails, basically just saying how much he hurt me and that I knew he was lying the whole time to me. All I could do was pray.

I woke up today (well, I hadn't slept much all night), feeling a bit better. I wasn't planning on contacting him again or doing anything, I didn't want to waste the effort and make myself look crazy and desperate, even though I had fantasies about slashing his tires! I checked my email and he told me:

"Carly, I found out Sun night that my ex girlfriend is pregnant. THATS why i did a 180. Im not playing games with your heart. Im freaking out myself - thus my email yesterday telling you that you needn't be a part of all of this. It hurts me like hell too but Im going to be with her. NOTHING you did, just tricked by circumstances."

OMG. I called him a few minutes later, and he started sobbing uncontrollably, saying that the worst part is that he hurt me so much, that I thought everything he did and said was a lie when it wasn't. I really don't think he's lying to me. I don't know what to think.

I guess what I wan't to know is, if anyone gives psychic readings (or astrological if you want me to supply the charts), is: is his ex-gf really pregnant? I ask b/c they were in this "casual" on and off again thing, with the supposed agreement that if one of them meets someone they thought they had a future with, they could leave easily. He told me when he met me he broke it off with her, but a few weeks ago he was feeling torn b/c she was calling him constantly, begging him to take her back, saying that she'd do anything. He went back and forth with her for a few weeks (he always told me he didn't want to be with her, but he felt like she was emotionally manipulating him and he felt guilty, but that he wasn't sleeping with her anymore), but a week ago he finally decided to stop resisting this connection he had with me and broke it off with her for good. And now a week later she's pregnant? It seems awfully convenient, especially b/c he always uses condoms, and she's older than he is, and he's 41.

But I don't know, she could be pregnant. I didn't even go to work today because I know I couldn't do my job. I've just been crying uncontrollably, more than I can ever remember crying in a very long time. I even called a psychic to set up an appointment!

I also want to know if things will work out between us. I don;t really want to be around if she is pregnant. Even if she isn't though, this will probably screw him up, especially when he was scared to begin with.

Also, right now Pluto is squaring my Sun by 1 degree and Neptune is opposing my Venus by 1 degree (both will be exact by the end of the month). Pluto is also squaring HIS Moon by 2 degrees, so that is making me flip out. I feel like I wan't to die but I can't even work up the motivation to kill myself LOL.

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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted February 10, 2010 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Shankara,

Usually when people say they want to kill themselves it means that they just want to escape the pain, so I don't think you'll do that. It's understandable that the 2 of you have been hit with a surprise knock out.

Don't post your chart yet, I think you did a good thing by making an appointment with the psychic. It sounds like you have a pretty good understanding of what they symbols are saying in your chart and in his. His experience of transiting Pluto square to his Moon seems to be right on target, especially since the Moon symbolizes emotions, women and children. Right now it's expressing itself as extreme focus on female issues.

This is just an opinion from me, based on what you described and my hope as well. I have a feeling that his ex-girlfriend is lying. What better way (and a desperate way) to pull him back to her when he finally broke things off with her for good. Did she have a pregnancy test at a doctors office? I just have a feeling that she's lying.

And even if she's not, if he stays with her just for the baby, his life will be miserable with her and he will end up leaving her at some point in the next few years anyway.

Take this one day at a time and DO NOT LOSE YOUR JOB OVER THIS!!!!! Things are really bad out there, it's important for you to FOCUS. Even if you both have to let go of each other just for a little while to let things settle down and keep practicalities in check.

If anyone else wants to chime in, feel free. And please let us know what happens with your psychic appointment.

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Shankara
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posted February 10, 2010 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
Geocosmic Valentine - Thanks for your post. No, I'm not going to kill myself, I shouldn't have said that. I just felt that way because my mind and heart could not process such pain and I had no idea where to turn.

I go through ups and downs. Right now I'm feeling a little calmer. The bottom line is that I cannot control any of this. I cannot control whether or not she's pregnant, what he will do, whether he'll want to be with me even if she's not pregnant, none of it. It sucks but there's nothing I can do. I just have to believe and have faith tat everything happens for a reason, that God is always putting me exactly where I need to be, and if I'm supposed to be with him I will, and if not, I'll be okay. Hopefully the psychic will help; I went to her years ago and thought she was wonderful.

I say this now but I'll probably be sobbing and wailing again in an hour.

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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted February 10, 2010 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you'll probably be crying off an on for some time until you get some clarity, but I applaud you for understanding that you're powerless. But here's a secret...understanding that you're powerless is one of the most POWERFUL places you can be. You understand that you are sitting in the palm of your Higher Power's hand and that you are being cared for.

Remember, you have guides and a benevolent Higher Power and so does he. You have angels and so does he.

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Diana
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posted February 11, 2010 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
She could've gotten pregnant on purpose. Some people are desperate enough to do that. Real selfish. I feel sorry for that baby IF THIS IS TRUE. She also may have just accidentally gotten pregnant. It happens. If it wasn't an accident and just a ploy to hook him, she's already using the baby as a pawn. Let's hope this isn't the case.

I would very much like to see the charts. All of them.

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Diana
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posted February 11, 2010 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I also have a feeling things will turn out for the best for you -- no matter what happens with him.

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Shankara
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posted February 11, 2010 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
Diana - I don't have any of her info, but I have mine and his:

His natal:

My natal:

Synastry, me inside:

Synastry, him inside:

[img]http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/CarlyShankara/astro_61gw_02_01_anonymous_anonymou.gif?t=1264652356[img]

Composite:

I know, there is a big age difference. I also know about all these sqaures...Moon sq Pluto, Moon sq Uranus, Venus sq Neptune, Pluto sq Mars, Moon sq Asc, Merc sq Pluto, OMG...but there are some interesting conjunctions too...and I do see that I have an Aqua Asc and his Uranus is close to his Asc, his Pluto is also close to his Asc and my Pluto squares my Asc, but I don't know about this LOL...
Also, I have no idea what Nessus means but I've seen it around here, mine is at Leo 10 and his is at Gem 13. My S-M midpoint is at Leo 13.5 and his is at Virgo 6 or 7 (which conjunct the Sun and Moon of the Composite). I've seen IQ talk about asteroid Valentine; His Valentine is at Leo 23 (3 degrees from my Venus) and mine is at Leo 21 (3 degrees from his Venus). In the composite Valentine is at Leo 22 conjunct Mercury and Venus.

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Shankara
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posted February 11, 2010 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
Synastry, him inside:

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glamgem25
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posted February 11, 2010 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Some men will give strange excuses for running. I think if he did feel the "soul connection" he said he did, it may just be very scary to him and his libra moon makes him go back and forth. Back off a little and wait it out...he might need time to think it all through!

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Diana
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posted February 11, 2010 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I like your sun and moon conjunction. That is supposed to be really nice.

It's interesting that in the composite that you just had the eclipse on the saturn.

Someone else will have to come around to do the reading for the relationship charts, because they aren't my forte.


His chart has a lot going on!


He had the july eclipse conjunct his mercury and mars. This makes me think he is going to have a baby. Mercury rules 10th (public image) and 1st(self), mars rules 8th(procreation). T. uranus is right on his DC! Change and quick change at that in his relationships. t. Sat is crossing his AC. More responsible outlook. Him leaving you to raise the kid, when he really wants to be with you fits this. So does t. Pluto square his moon from the 4th(home and family) to the 1st(self). T. pluto in the 4th shows a change in the home. It really fits his situation, because if he has to live with someone he doesn't love, and she knows it, look out! Not a happy family life, no sirr-ee.


t. mars is hovering around his sun and venus due to the rx. That can also show a child/pregnancy.


t. karma is RIGHT on his IC. Oh wow.


He has t. neptune and chiron in his 5th house of children. Apt. Maybe the neptune means it's a false alarm...?

t. saturn will be on his moon again. He may become depressed.


All of these things I mentioned makes me think there is a pregnancy. Maybe I am wrong, but there is a lot confirming it.

I think you just need to wait and see what happens. It may be a false alarm. Time will certainly tell on that one. I hate to say maybe he'll leave her eventually if a baby is involved....It takes two to tango and if she's pregnant he's half to blame. I don't really think someone should be with someone just because they are pregnant, but it depends on their relationship.If they HATE each other, it's a mistake, if they are at least friends it's the right thing to at least try for the baby's sake.


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Diana
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posted February 11, 2010 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Things will get better for you when pluto moves off your sun and saturn off your sun.

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Shankara
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posted February 12, 2010 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I wouldn't feel right about being with him if he's having a baby with another women. He started talking to me about marrying me for about a month now. He's always liked being single but for some reason he has felt like I'm "The One" and he would go back and forth running from me and wanting to be with me. He told me once that if we started dating we would get married, and probably soon. So if we were to get married, could that also be changes in his home life? Before all this pregnancy stuff happened, I'd look at his transits and think they were referring to us getting married, and how big of a change that would be for him. What would show marriage instead of pregnancy, and is it reflected in his chart at all? Now I think about how I used to be SO SURE I was going to marry him (like I've never felt before, even with my ex-fiance), and feel so sad now...

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Diana
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posted February 12, 2010 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
All the transits and eclipse points I listed could also mean marriage.

his progressed chart may show more, but it wouldn't conclusively point to marriage or child.

Does he have a lot of planets in his 5th or 4th house SR for this year or next? 10th would be indicative too.

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posted February 12, 2010 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekf     Edit/Delete Message
Shankara,
You should check out Steve Gunn's When Two Souls Connect - he also has his own site that talks a lot about these soul connections and why they happen.

One note though is he won't work with you to help you get the relationship, but will work with you to get you centered to the point where you don't "need" the relationship.

Have a look anyway, if nothing else it's interesting to read the other people's stories.

Best of luck

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Shankara
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posted February 12, 2010 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
Ekf - Thanks for the info. I have read Steve Guns article about runners and insanity, which I liked a lot, maybe I'll check out more about him.

His Progressed Chart:

My Progressed Chart:

His Solar Return Chart:

My SR Chart:

Did you want me to get the progressed chart for later this year or next year?

Out first date (we knew each other for a bit before), where we both realized we were in love was on 1/15/10, the new moon and eclipse, so I thought that was nice.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP, EVERYONE!!! I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!

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Shankara
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posted February 12, 2010 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
How, okay, I see that SR charts are for 2010 and 2011; I've never used one before!

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Shankara
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posted February 12, 2010 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
His 5th and 11th houses are activated in the SR, which I am reading indicates child birth...damn....

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Shankara
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posted February 12, 2010 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
I'm also reading that I should be looking at how the SR planets aspect the natal:

His SR and natal:

My SR and natal:

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posted February 13, 2010 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
The SR's, along with his natal and transits, really make me think he will have a baby. But of course, I could be wrong. These things could easily just point to the pregnancy scare if she isn't really pregnant. You just have to wait to find out which is true.

Also, do you think he could be making the whole thing up??

I'd really like to know if she is, because that would be very helpful for reading charts in the future.


This will turn out well for you. It will just take some time.

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Shankara
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posted February 13, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
He could be making it up. I don't even know anymore. Maybe he got scared and invented some story.

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Shankara
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posted February 16, 2010 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
I talked with him a bit yesterday and he says he's now thinking that she isn't pregnant after all. He's being weird so I'm not talking to him much now, but I'll guess I know more for sure at a later date.

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Diana
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posted February 17, 2010 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I wonder what's going on?!

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Shankara
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posted February 17, 2010 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL me too! Well, I've decided it's not my drama, so if he wants to be weird and be left alone, I'll leave him alone. If he wants to come back that's his decision, and we'll see how I feel about him then. Honestly I think he'd have to get therapy of something for his fear of commitment.

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Shankara
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posted February 18, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
I realized that today I have both Neptune and Chiron exactly opposing (to the minute) my Venus, so maybe that's why I've been feeling so wonky about love. I looked up the explanations for these transits and they're accurate, especially the Chiron one, which I never even looked at until today.

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Shankara
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posted July 19, 2010 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message
I wanted to bump this because it turns out I didn't adjust his SR chart for where he lives now...which makes a difference. I know there was some interest in using this as an example so I'll try to add the corrected charts. My chart is still the same (and wow...I sure did post a lot of charts, didn't I?).

But basically everything is sooo much better now which I never would have thought at the time. No one is pregnant! We are talking a lot and seeing each other and I met his parents. The trust between us as increase tenfold. I can actually see a benefit to all the crap I went through because it has forced me to develop inner security (before in relationships I was a mess). So...anyone see marriage/more significant relationships in our charts any time soon (or at all)? Probably crazy, I know...

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