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Izo
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posted May 01, 2010 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message
If you'd like, I can trade - I have this book called Kuan Yin Oracle and I find the answers fairly accurate. Just let me know.

Some background information about my question. This man is, so far, the biggest love I have experienced. It was love at first sight for both of us and it changed my life. I talked about him in here in the Astro forum a few years back, I refered to him as the Bull. I truly believe we are soulmates, but as you know soulmate stories are filled with drama and heartache. We made no exception. We broke up 2 years ago due to miscommunication, fear and too much ego. It left me in a deep state of apathy, depression and bitterness. Since then I have travelled a lonely road, which is getting harder and heavier by the minute. I long to feel love again but it seems like a losing battle wherever I search for it.
I maintained some contact with the Bull, mainly on the phone and Internet. We met last week face to face and some confessions were made. He told me how much our relationship meant to him, how our break-up affected him and that he wasn't able to love anyone since. I begun to see the past in a new light and it brought some relief, but as a selfish human, I want more. During our encounter I came to realize we have both matured emotionally, perhaps enough to handle our relationship? I feel we left things unfinished and I am considering giving our relationship a second chance, only I am horrified by the possibility of getting hurt and disappointed again. I have never felt so vulnerable and exposed with anyone.
I am here to ask you to bring some insight into this, if you can. Any type of reading is alright, just let me know what info I should provide.
Thank you!

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DiandraReborn25
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posted May 02, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
hi!

please if anyone is reading,and has some intuition about it,then give Izo´s reading.

She is a dear friend,and was always here for us,years ago when i first started coming here.

Izo

Everything will gonna be fine!always for your happiness´s sake.

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Izo
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posted May 05, 2010 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Diandra! That was very kind of you. But if I'm not supposed to know, then I should accept that and have faith that in time things will clear themselves out.
Many big hugs!!!

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Izo
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posted May 31, 2010 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a horary I did today. I asked the question: what does he feel for me?

The question was radical; the chart has Scorpio Ascendant and the ruler of the hour was Mars.

I am Mars in Leo, placed in the 10th house. I am a career girl, I admit it, and most of my time and energy is spent in that direction. Also, this position grants me some sort of power, balanced by my other ruler, Moon, in Capricorn in the 3rd (weak sign, weak house, not good). I am in his 4th house, perhaps he considers me family somehow?
He is Venus in Cancer in my 9th and is separating from a semisquare to me. I (Moon) am also separating from an opposition to him. Not good. Venus is in a sign of triplicity and also fall with Mars (so he likes and also hates me?), but it is ruled by my other ruler, Moon. So I guess he likes me more than he loathes me. Moon is in triplicity with Venus, and yeah, I still love him a lot despite everything that happened...
What I find interesting is that Mercury in his house... Mercury being ruler of his 5th house, I'm thinking he might be in a relationship currently, which is probably why he cancelled our movie date yesterday... Mercury is angular, so kinda strong (but so am I!) and is also separating from a sextile to him (Venus). She (Mercury) rules his 5th house; it's in Taurus and is ruled by him; I'm guessing she is very much in love with him, but his feelings are not that strong, he receives her by face. She is probably in his proximity somehow and he sees her less passionately. She is also represented by Saturn in his 5th; she is in triplicity with him (Venus) (I guess she really is in love with him), but also in Venus's fall... so there's something she doesn't like about him (perhaps his stated intention to not fall in love again?) and this might be why she is separating from him. Venus is in a sign of detriment for her (Saturn), again suggesting that his attachment to her is not as strong. Saturn rules his 9th and his 10th house. Knowing the workacholic that he is, this other girl could very well be someone from work, perhaps someone in a higher position than him.

Well, in case I interpreted this correctly, it would seem he still has some romantic feelings for me, but also some reserves. Understandable considering it's been 2 years and very little contact between us and I just reentered his life 1 month ago. It is pretty likely he is involved with someone, but as he told me, he has not attached emotionally to someone since we split. The chart is quite depressing where aspects are involved, because they are all separating. I'm guessing no action will happen in the next 3-6 months. However, looking at the Moon, the last aspect it makes is a sextile to Jupiter, which rules my 5th house, and this might change things for the better in 6 somethings (since Moon is weak, I'm guessing months, hopefully not years coz I'm not that patient). Either we will get back together (which I feel it could happen) or I will meet someone else (which I also hope because our relationship is difficult, to say the least).

Does anyone see something I missed happening in this chart?

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Izo
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posted May 31, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message
I've also decided to post our synastry and composite in case somebody drops by and feels inspired to write something.



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LuvinU
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posted June 06, 2010 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvinU     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Izo - here is the sabian symbol for your composite north node and a reading I tried for you two.

29 Taurus: A Peacock Parading On The Terrace Of An Old Castle

It looks like to me, you two broke up in the beginning because things weren’t settled, it was like going on a hike somewhere remote but having no shoes to wear. None of you had a grasp on the control you both had in regards to the relationship. It wasn’t ready for the journey – it was just in the developmental stage and sometimes – there is a gap between the developmental and brainstorming stage AND the actual putting it into action. Currently, you both are onto the next stage of your relationship – there has been a turning of the page. That gap between development and action taught you both something about yourselves, how you feel about the relationship and/or relationships in general and what you want to do next. Between you, there is understanding and compassion, sensitivity and relatability however this energy comes and goes – one moment you can be understanding about it and the another moment, you feel something completely different. It’s fickle, sometimes wishy washy. One moment can be a ‘I understand and hear what you are saying’ and another moment it could be ‘I don’t understand you and I don’t get what you are saying’. How you feel about him or can’t help but love – on my card there is actually a guy riding a bull. I thought that was ironic considering his name. There is something about his sadness, his awkwardness, the hardships he has gone through/is going through, how he is uncertain about the future – these things draw you to him. Suppose you like that although there may be much confusion surrounding him that anything is possible. It seems that you give him a sense happiness and confidence that may not go over well in his life as often as he’d like or it should. It seems that he brought to your life a sense of righteousness – something like a this is an event that I feel directly connected to, that’s directly affecting me, that’s feels like a direct gift or curse, a direct opportunity or failure, if it feels right it’s right/it if feels wrong, it’s wrong not only between you two but in what is going on around you. It seems that in the past, for you and/or him that you might have been the brunt of jokes, pranks and games in a relationship or were the one who played games, jokes, and pranks on others you were in a relationship with. This is affecting your relationship because it is the past that you have brought into your present – this past affects how you and/or he move forward in this relationship. Although you and/or he may have felt that the relationship between you two was ‘right’ how can it be wrong? There was also this underlying feeling like it’s not real or how hard it could be to being what you believe as real. Going to a mailbox to get your mail is a real physical thing – loving someone and having a relationship with someone who isn’t in your physical immediate environment made it seem as though you two couldn’t have something ‘real’ and so it pulled at your connection – it made you and/or he question if it was ‘real’ enough to believe and do something about it or not. It looks that in your connection’s future, you both will not let things stop you because you’ll just say/see what you mean and feel and want to say/see as soon as you can without giving it enough time to think over so that it is affected by the concept of ‘real’ to the point of confusion. I don’t think that you both will let the things that boggled you both down and had the chance to disconnect you two – will happen again. You two may even make the effort to travel to see one another. I think you both will just live in the moment.

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posted June 06, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I think there are to many broke upp aspect in the composite. I don't like the t-square including uranus,mars,venus in the composite. Very high tension. The other one also a t-square between moon and pluto, jupiter, sun. Both of this t-square give the relationship much stress and inner increased pressure. The moon in positive aspect to nept can give the relationship one false and wrong picture of how the relationship realy works. False hope.

I'm sorry but I've no good experience of to give a relationship a second chance. I have did the relationship a second chance again and again but it have always ended in the end.

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Izo
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posted June 08, 2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, I didn't think I will actually get replies!! Thank you so much!

LovinU, what an amazing reading! And it is pretty spot on, if I may say. The relationship was wishy-washy, it had a hard time getting off the ground to begin with, and we both witheld our feelings (we both have Moon in the 12th, also present in the composite). There were many misunderstandings but also a feeling that we understand each other on a deep level... it's hard to explain. But the most obvious things about us, those were the ones we totally missed. Kind of ironic and sad.

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There is something about his sadness, his awkwardness, the hardships he has gone through/is going through, how he is uncertain about the future – these things draw you to him.

This is true... In fact, in the beginning, when I met him, I felt like I was supposed to show him that there is still light at the end of the rainbow. He imprinted a T-shirt for me (I haven't received it yet) saying "Watch out, I'm gonna save the world" and on the back it said "But I won't save you". I instantly thought it was some sort of accusation that my attempt to save him failed.

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it made you and/or he question if it was ‘real’ enough to believe and do something about it or not.

This was another wow moment for me. The relationship felt like a fairytail from the very beginning and when we actually became a couple (about 1 year after we met) I simply couldn't believe it... And because of that I couldn't get myself to enjoy it, it was like I was waiting for the movie to end, for something to go wrong. I don't know if it ended because it was meant to end or maybe I brought it on myself because I had no faith in it.

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I don’t think that you both will let the things that boggled you both down and had the chance to disconnect you two – will happen again. You two may even make the effort to travel to see one another. I think you both will just live in the moment.

REALLY??? You really believe this? This is what I want for us, what I always wanted... I know this relationship requires a lot of effort, I see the red in the charts and the Neptune stuff... I really do. But I also believe that if we both make an effort, it might happen. I am willing to walk the extra mile for this, even more, but I don't want to walk alone.

Just one little comment about the Sabian. I always used Taurus 28-29 for the composite NN, which is something about two cobblers working together side by side. I used to think it describes us well. At the core, we are very, very similar. We are both ambitious, workacholics, we approach most things in a similar way. However, when we were together, a lot of energy was spent working against each other than as a team. I think that is a lesson.

Popcorn,
The things you said are very much true, which is why the relationship ended. Yes, there was great tension between us... there was also confusion and illusions. What I am hoping for is that we will be able to rise above that, because I believe we could, if we really wanted to. I know he's probably not the guy I will marry and settle down with, even though I wanted this and perhaps still do, but hands down, he is the love of my life. What am I supposed to do, because I tried everything I could think of, I tried to hate him, ignore him, not care about him, but after 2 years he still makes my knees melt just by hearing his voice. I don't think I will love anyone like I loved him. If you had just one chance to see a meteorite shower, would you look the other way just because you know it will end soon?

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DiandraReborn25
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posted June 09, 2010 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Izo

i believe in your love.and you both as a couple together in happiness.

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Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted June 09, 2010 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Izo,

I think you said the keywords yourself with this: "The relationship felt like a fairytail from the very beginning and when we actually became a couple (about 1 year after we met) I simply couldn't believe it."

And now, could you believe it?
Do you have any doubts? If yes, ask yourself, why. But in a very honest way. The solution is ALWAYS within ourselves.

"What am I supposed to do, because I tried everything I could think of, I tried to hate him, ignore him, not care about him, but after 2 years he still makes my knees melt just by hearing his voice. I don't think I will love anyone like I loved him."

Try to let go EVERYTHING that is attached to him, and your relationship. And in everything, i mean all your thoughts, fears, emotions, expectations, good and bad memories, everything...Its not that you should forget about him, no, its about making your mind, heart and soul FREE FROM THE PAST!!!

Becasue we can only start sth new when we can ACCEPT and LET GO the past.. And now, that Jupiter and Uranus are conjunct at zero degree Aries, we're given the chance to CHANGE everything and set a new direction to our lifes. BUT, its only possible if you have FAITH, a faith which under no circumstances could be destroyed!!! Because if you have 100% faith and believe in sth, it means that deep down you know that it will manifest in your life.

So dear IZo, just BELIEVE that EVERYTHING can happen!!! But only if you first set yourself free from eveything you do not need anymore. And during this freeing process, you will get all the answers you're looking for...

ps. A very important thing in the letting go process is, that you should also let go your ideas and expectations ABOUT THE FUTURE! Be opened for the best things, but dont get into details (cause its only a trap of the ego), just trust the Universe and trust your faith.

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Izo
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posted June 12, 2010 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message
(((((Di))))

Dreamy,

You left me with a lot to ponder upon... I know I have a tendency to want to control the outcome of the situation, or at least to know which it is, so I can prepare myself emotionally for it. I am a control freak. It's true. And this is more true with him, because our relationship was so Uranian (long distance, age difference, erratic, unexpected turns, changed my life for good), so out of my control. I couldn't even control my own feelings for him. I know you are right, but it's very difficult for me, I'm sure you can understand because you went through that yourself. I've had those thoughts too, with Saturn transiting my 8th and Pluto transiting my 12th house... I just haven't arrived at that point. For me, to let go of something, means I need to understand what it was about, in the first place. I thought I did (a big mistake, that's what I thought), but then I met him again and he tells me differently, raises my hopes and now is avoiding me. Perhaps the whole relationship was just an intense attraction with no real compatibility. But I guess I need to know for sure, before I let go.

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