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flowerpower
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posted August 22, 2010 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Everyone, I ask for help.

Despite my age, Ive never had a relationship or dated anyone, so Im really ignorant about how these things work. I have met someone 2 months ago to whom Im really attracted to, and now I think I even like him. So this made me want to try to do something about it.

He is 10 years younger than me, from another country, and of course, very different from me. From what I saw in his chart, the attraction makes sense from my side, but I cant tell much more. He has not got a girlfriend, but don't know if there is anyone else.

I would like to know if it is worth trying something, if its just an illusion, how I should deal with him, if I am minimally attractive to him and how he would express his interest. Maybe if Im not sure its because there is nothing going on really...

I havent got his time of birth, so I created a chart in Astro.com as if it was Noon.

My data: Sao Paulo, Brazil - 18 july 1974 - 10:30 am
His data: Siegen, Germany - 30 december 1984

I cant find out how to attach the chart files, so I copied the links below to sinastry chart and to composite chart. Would the progressed charts make a difference at this stage ?
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=o0vfilet31Mfy-u1275016159&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=61&mth=gw&sday=22&smon=8&syr=2010&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=2 2&add=14&add=23&node=-Yn&asp=1&ast=
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=o0vfilet31Mfy-u1275016159&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=621&mth=gw&sday=22&smon=8&syr=2010&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add= 22&add=14&add=23&node=-Yn&asp=1&ast=

Let's see I hope it works...

Thank you

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Peri
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posted August 22, 2010 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I will look at your charts later...oh and

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LEXX
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posted August 22, 2010 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Well firstly, do not worry about being 10 years older than him.
I am 15 years older than my partner and we have been together almost 13 years so far.

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mintgirl123
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posted August 22, 2010 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
Hey =) can you try to get his birth time? Because birth times affect the chart quite alot (moon moves 12 degrees in a day) and ascendant and houses will be completely different.

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flowerpower
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posted August 23, 2010 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Hey thank you for the quick reply

I could try to, but Im in another city at the moment, I should be able to see him again in two weeks...

Is it possible to give a more superficial view just based on our individual charts ?

If I find out his birth time (hope he knows it) I can post my question again...

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flowerpower
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posted August 23, 2010 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Lex and Peri too !

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Peri
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posted August 23, 2010 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
hey

I can see why you are attracted to him, first of all you are a Cancer and his is a Capricorn, opposites do attract; secondly, he has Neptune conj your IC + Sun and Jupiter in your 4th >> we tend to feel cozy with someone whose planets fall in our 4th house your Venus trine his Venus >> attraction comes naturally between you two, your Venus is also opposite his Neptune >> you may somewhat idealize him, your Moon/Saturn square his Moon/BML >> he may get impatient and somewhat irritated by your sensivity and secretiveness when it comes to how you feel, so clashes are possible here; overall I'd say you feel a lot more comfortable around him than he around you, you have Sun trine his Saturn and nodes >> you feel like interacting with him is important for your growth as an individual, while his Sun is opposite your Moon, Merc, Saturn, square Pluto + his Moon is opposite your Pluto >> I guess he is somewhat intimidated by you and may do not know how to approach you;
my advice: if you feel you want a relationship with him - go for it, it may not be easy but you will gain a valuable experience and it will enrich you.

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flowerpower
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posted August 23, 2010 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Hey PERI ! thank you.

Much of what you said make sense but it gave me the impression that Im more interested in him than he is in me, so far do you think it is really the case ?

yes, it is exactly because I feel confortable with him I thought I should do something about it, as I never feel confortable with anyone ! :-)

About my being sensitive and secretive - it is my nature but in relation to him dont know. We never have much time to talk, but if I could I would spend the entire day talking to him - it's true though that he likes to talk a lot about himself and his life or about other things too but he almost never asks anything about me, even though I try to tell him somethings to compensate , so it makes me wonder.

Does he expect me to be as open as he is and just tell him more about my life spontaneously or simply there has not been any situation in which I needed tell how I felt - I know him for a short time, and in a work environment there are always people around, we never have much time, so maybe we could not experience this influence...

"while his Sun is opposite your Moon, Merc, Saturn, square Pluto + his Moon is opposite your Pluto >> I guess he is somewhat intimidated by you and may do not know how to approach you" === in this case, is it better to be upfront or try to spend more time with him and see what happens ? Would it be too much to try to go out with him alone

this is interesting, I thought he thinks Im not fun enough, or better yet, Im too uptight, this is the feedback I usually get - and I am the one who approaches him, to try to get my 5 minutes of conversation ...

Does he have any strong preference for unexperienced women by any chance ;D ?

LOL This should be my main criteria in the future :-)

It is true I have been avoiding rejection for a long time though... I need to prepare myself psychologically

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mintgirl123
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posted August 23, 2010 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
I think you need to try and see what happens. You only learn when you stumble and fall =)

It's good to get some experience (not suggesting you do anything rash of course) bc experience is necessary otherwise you'll have idealised ideas of how relationships should be like (and have them come crashing down on you when you realise it takes alot of work and it's not always happy happy haha)

Don't be too eager though. Guys don't like it when women are easy to get. You have to be more of a challenge (it's in their instincts afterall)

It's kinda eh... that he doesn't ask about your life. Cos if he did it would suggest more interest really...

Anyway, talk but don't give too much away. Air of mystery is the key LOL.

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LEXX
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posted August 23, 2010 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Don't be too eager though. Guys don't like it when women are easy to get. You have to be more of a challenge (it's in their instincts afterall)
Depends on the guy!
Also shy guys often need pursued, or they may never make the first move.
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Anyway, talk but don't give too much away. Air of mystery is the key LOL.
That would personally totally turn me off to a person! Want to lose my interest?
Play the air of mystery head game and I will tell you to get lost!

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mintgirl123
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posted August 23, 2010 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
Lol it's not a game. It means instead of telling them your whole life story, you need to let them want to know more about you. Who wants to know everything about someone?

Seriously OP, don't be too eager, it's a turn off. N don't give too much away, one step at a time, and you'll come out on top.

Show you have a life, and you're not so into him (bc that's an ego boost). Show interest but show that you're a brilliant confident woman, who anyone would be lucky to have.

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posted August 24, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Who wants to know everything about someone?

I do if I am interested!
Also one does not have to blurt out their whole story....
the best way is to first let them tell you their story! However you must show that you sincerely want to hear their story!

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flowerpower
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posted August 24, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
So, we cannot just be ourselves
I cant feel motivated this way :-)

When I talk to him about me sometimes suddenly I feel self-councious because he is really paying attention.

I had planned to simply tell him in one sentence that Im attracted to him and that I like him. And then I would go have a coffee or take the bus

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flowerpower
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posted August 24, 2010 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Even without the birth time, we know in which signs the planets are, so, what would these placements suggest in case his is minimally interested

I understand these are the main planets for this situation

sun capricorn
venus aquarius
mars pisces
moon aries
mercury sagittarius (cjnt Uranus I think)

Of course, if he is not interested, the way I tell him doesnt matter

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posted August 24, 2010 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Oh definitely!
JUST BE YOURSELVES!
That is the best course to take!

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flowerpower
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posted August 24, 2010 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Talking a lot about himself : this is what I found in astro.com, natal chart ignoring houses and Asc.


--- Moon Trine Mercury
You are always trying to express your emotions and inner, personal feelings to others, because it is very important to you that people really understand you. Fortunately you are willing to work at showing them what you are - you don't try to keep yourself a mystery. As a result you may develop some writing talent. .....

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mintgirl123
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posted August 24, 2010 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
He's a venus in aquarious...

lol. He would find it pretty easy to detach from things

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flowerpower
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posted August 25, 2010 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
I could try to stop being interested in people who are the complete opposite of me, for a change, it would be the best thing

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comica23
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posted August 25, 2010 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
The composite Mars is conjunct Moon, and Jupiter/Juno mp is square to Venus, so it can show that there's indeed attraction between you, as well as desire for commitment.

Saturn square Neptune can show that something might be unclear, that he might not be showing everything about himself, or that he might not be clearly perceived.
Uranus square Jupiter might show that it can be hard to have a committed relationship, as it might be hard to have stability.

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mintgirl123
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posted August 25, 2010 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
But she doesn't know his birth time so you have to discount moon aspects

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posted August 26, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Without one of the couple's birth time, the composite Moon only varies around 3 degrees, so that certain aspects can still be taken into account (I would consider the Moon/Mars conjunction but not really the Moon/Mercury trine for example).

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flowerpower
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posted August 28, 2010 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Hallo Comica ! Thank you very much for clarifying... Im glad it is probably a mutual attraction. I hope in 10 days I will be able to try to see him again :-)

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Peri
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posted August 28, 2010 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Just saw this smiley and thought of you, hehe.

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flowerpower
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posted August 30, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
N I C E !

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flowerpower
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posted November 21, 2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone,

a very late feedback - I did not see him again, I travelled, he was busy, I thought he did not care about seeing me or not, etc.

In the mean time, I got to know another person better and there were some weird situations I got frustrated and decided to take care of my life - I know only a few people here, I decided to ask my first much younger guy to go out and he said yes. I was really happy because it was the first time we would be alone and I thought he was only interested in meeting the whole group of the programme Im taking part in.
We had a good time. I could not tell him about my interest, but he told me he had been in a troubled end of relationship.

There is the second younger guy, who I think got weird because at first I was not attracted to him so then he decided not to insist on it, but we saw each other several times. (this one is libra moon - I think, scorpio sun, sagittarius venus - I think, virgo mars)

To summarize, I now like them both, and Im attracted to both. I think I owe my myself to try to do something about it. At least now I know more clearly that I have a communication problem... Anyway I havent got their birth times, so not much can be done in astrological terms, I turned to tarot, it may give me more elements or a new perspective to think about

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