posted April 13, 2011 09:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Chiron is on your Sun.You share deep ,deep,levels with each other.
You have other close conjunctions,too.

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Thanks! Ami Anne!! You are great!!

posted April 13, 2011 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
If you would also post the composite chart for the two of you?

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Great Thanks so much!!

I'll post a composite!!

posted April 13, 2011 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
If you would also post the composite chart for the two of you?

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Great Thanks so much!!

I'll post a composite!!

posted April 13, 2011 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
If you would also post the composite chart for the two of you?

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Thanks any insight would be awesome!!!!!!!

posted April 13, 2011 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Overall, I think the relationship is karmic and somewhat inevitable. But, there are definitely issues with stability here... some regarding the oppositions of Uranus in synastry, your partners placements in the 12th house, which I'll talk about in a moment. And, the composite; Pluto square sun, venus, and alluding to a conjunction, which also occurs in synastry, as well.

I'll start with the synastry in a moment, once I get a feel for what both charts are saying.

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Thanks so much!! Can't wait!! Appreciate your insight!!

posted April 13, 2011 01:42 PM            

He also has a Scorpio ascendant, which will also have an effect on what this chart is saying...

You on the other hand have Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in the 4th. Often, while there is fortune or some sort of abundance to be drawn from the home life, there could also be an abusive situation and overly serious background to the individual's life. Also, a breakdown of home life is likely.

Your pluto is conjunct his mars. While this is an aspect of intensity surrounding sexuality, I would question if there's also a short fuse in this relationship. Do you desire, because of your past and issues surrounding your homelife, desire to control him? Is there an aspect of
fear playing out in this relationship, where you doubt his intentions? Somehow you stand to have an effect on his drive and ambition and sexuality - In quite a powerful way.

Do you desire to control him? Are you afraid that you are unable to trust him? Your saturn in 4th also conjuncts his Pluto in the 11th house.

Perhaps you would feel more comfortable if he spent less energy in the social arena? Does he have intense friendships? Perhaps, does he have very close friendships? Ones that are very intense, and then breakup? Would you feel more comfortable if he did not have this kind of way with friends?

Saturn seeks to put a stop to Pluto's destructive and intense energy. It desires to control, to reign in...

His moon is in 3rd in Aquarius. He is probably very inclined emotionally to be at ease with many people, and most desiring of relationship through friendship. There is an emotional coolness that prefers the company of many people, the communication with many people. He also has Jupiter in 9th, so there is success in higher learning, mingling with people different than him culturally, philosophically, etc. And, there is a desire on his part to embrace many different kinds of thought and cultures...

To say it simply, he desires very much to be a social creature.

The two of you are similar in this way... as your Venus is in 9th, your mercury in 11th, and mars in 3rd... Neptune is in 6th, so I caution you to be careful with alcohol and drugs. Also, a tendency to overly nurture and be of service to others in perhaps a co-dependent way. Be aware of it...

Did the two of you quickly become friends, but as this relationship progressed, you find that maybe what drew you together is also disturbing to you emotionally? Perhaps, you are realizing a greater and greater need for stability in this relationship? Do you feel that in order to be happy, you would like to be as close together as possible? This is the effect of your Sun in Taurus, opposing his Scorpio ascendant. There is a lot of attraction and need to merge...

The biggest issues are with the Uranus influences... Your uranus in 5th squaring his Saturn and Mercury in 10th in Virgo. Also, his uranus in Scorpio in 12th squaring your moon in Leo in 1st. Perhaps, issues in his past, threaten the integrity and honesty of your Leo moon. You may feel strained by his past or by unexpected things from his past. This may leave you feeling there is little emotional upfront integrity to the union...

He is may feel insecure with a perceived inconsistency of affection? He is inclined to be very consistent and ambitious, there is a strong capricorn theme here with your partner. Is there an openness and expressiveness sexually or creatively that he is not comfortable with? And inconsistency?

Lastly, this could allude to a child. Is there a child from a prior relationship?

Anyways...

The composite...

The relationship is blessed with Jupiter conjunct ascendant, venus in 4th house in Capricorn... and is lended stability by saturn in 1st. Which gives stability.

However, there can be a tendency to fight a lot over material posessions, the up and downs of finances, and this could really threaten the relationship itself. A working and tending to the home theme is present, and it's very possible the two of you could end up married.

This may be inevitable.

Mars is in 1st house. Pluto in 2nd. If you find yourself fighting a lot, the two of you need to reflect on the personal insecurities you're both bringing into the relationship. Spend more time getting involved in physical activities, healthy competitions, rather than focusing your energies on each other.

Also, don't let the obscession with material security override the relationship itself. Pluto energy needs to be reigned in a lot in this relationship.

posted April 13, 2011 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
In synasty, His uranus and venus in 12th house opposes your sun. I would suggest studying the aspects of his natal chart to indicate what these planets imply in the house of what is hidden. Many people with mars, venus, and uranus in 12th house carry out their motivations in a very veiled way. They can be extremely secretive, and prone to even having secret relationships.

He also has a Scorpio ascendant, which will also have an effect on what this chart is saying...

You on the other hand have Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in the 4th. Often, while there is fortune or some sort of abundance to be drawn from the home life, there could also be an abusive situation and overly serious background to the individual's life. Also, a breakdown of home life is likely.

Your pluto is conjunct his mars. While this is an aspect of intensity surrounding sexuality, I would question if there's also a short fuse in this relationship. Do you desire, because of your past and issues surrounding your homelife, desire to control him? Is there an aspect of
fear playing out in this relationship, where you doubt his intentions? Somehow you stand to have an effect on his drive and ambition and sexuality - In quite a powerful way.

Do you desire to control him? Are you afraid that you are unable to trust him? Your saturn in 4th also conjuncts his Pluto in the 11th house.

Perhaps you would feel more comfortable if he spent less energy in the social arena? Does he have intense friendships? Perhaps, does he have very close friendships? Ones that are very intense, and then breakup? Would you feel more comfortable if he did not have this kind of way with friends?

Saturn seeks to put a stop to Pluto's destructive and intense energy. It desires to control, to reign in...

His moon is in 3rd in Aquarius. He is probably very inclined emotionally to be at ease with many people, and most desiring of relationship through friendship. There is an emotional coolness that prefers the company of many people, the communication with many people. He also has Jupiter in 9th, so there is success in higher learning, mingling with people different than him culturally, philosophically, etc. And, there is a desire on his part to embrace many different kinds of thought and cultures...

To say it simply, he desires very much to be a social creature.

The two of you are similar in this way... as your Venus is in 9th, your mercury in 11th, and mars in 3rd... Neptune is in 6th, so I caution you to be careful with alcohol and drugs. Also, a tendency to overly nurture and be of service to others in perhaps a co-dependent way. Be aware of it...

Did the two of you quickly become friends, but as this relationship progressed, you find that maybe what drew you together is also disturbing to you emotionally? Perhaps, you are realizing a greater and greater need for stability in this relationship? Do you feel that in order to be happy, you would like to be as close together as possible? This is the effect of your Sun in Taurus, opposing his Scorpio ascendant. There is a lot of attraction and need to merge...

The biggest issues are with the Uranus influences... Your uranus in 5th squaring his Saturn and Mercury in 10th in Virgo. Also, his uranus in Scorpio in 12th squaring your moon in Leo in 1st. Perhaps, issues in his past, threaten the integrity and honesty of your Leo moon. You may feel strained by his past or by unexpected things from his past. This may leave you feeling there is little emotional upfront integrity to the union...

He is may feel insecure with a perceived inconsistency of affection? He is inclined to be very consistent and ambitious, there is a strong capricorn theme here with your partner. Is there an openness and expressiveness sexually or creatively that he is not comfortable with? And inconsistency?

Lastly, this could allude to a child. Is there a child from a prior relationship?

Anyways...

The composite...

The relationship is blessed with Jupiter conjunct ascendant, venus in 4th house in Capricorn... and is lended stability by saturn in 1st. Which gives stability.

However, there can be a tendency to fight a lot over material posessions, the up and downs of finances, and this could really threaten the relationship itself. A working and tending to the home theme is present, and it's very possible the two of you could end up married.

This may be inevitable.

Mars is in 1st house. Pluto in 2nd. If you find yourself fighting a lot, the two of you need to reflect on the personal insecurities you're both bringing into the relationship. Spend more time getting involved in physical activities, healthy competitions, rather than focusing your energies on each other.

Also, don't let the obscession with material security override the relationship itself. Pluto energy needs to be reigned in a lot in this relationship.

The two of you may have been drawn together to learn very important karmic lessons about trust, financial stability, fears surrounding stability, emotional integrity, control, etc.

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Thanks So much!

I definitely agree with alot of this. It really resonates with me. You hit the nail on the head in reference to fears. I think that is my biggest lesson with him is trust. And that is trusting myself first.... that's all for now I have to go. I will respond to your generous insight after my workshop. Thanks again. Talk back with you soon.

posted April 13, 2011 02:06 PM            

Go into this relationship with your eyes wide open... some men and women are more comfortable playing "behind scenes". It's just a way of life.

If it does not play out romantically, it will at least with ambition and other self-expressive and independent ways...

posted April 14, 2011 11:02 AM            

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It must be said that this is a friendship not a romantic relationship, yet : ). We have been out of contact for months. He vanished. I've been told that this aspect is somewhere in his chart. We have amazing chemistry, I haven't felt this way about a man ever before. When we would be hanging out having a good time, we had a lot of unspoken energy, if you will. Although he would say alot that he loved my energy and my confidence but we never verbally expressed romantic feelings. One day when we were having a great time, he said he really NEEDED energy like this in his life. When we first met it was an instant attaction. But I played it off because he was a BIG FLIRT and seemed REALLY SEXUALLY (scorpio in the chart). At the time I was also really into our mutual friend, Then one day I looked up and I was falling in love with him. Even after a psychic told me he was the one I couldn't believe it... then one day I was in love and he has been all I could think about since. Dated other guys but none have come close to this connection. We were intimate last April and of course it was AMAZING!! He just knew me!! He started to slip away then he was gone! Through mutual friend and FB I can see he is going thru alot and I'm giving him space to figure things out as well as me figure things out. I guess the secretive part is he could tell me this just ran.??

As friends we would talk about relationships he said he didn't trust women, I guess someone broke is heart or he has mommy issues. He also talked about committment issues.

Anyway I would like for us to UNVEIL our feelings so I can have closure or begin. Is there anyway to time with our charts when this may be??

posted April 14, 2011 11:15 AM            

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I even though I don't have the life style I would like to have and know I will have. I have always been very fortunate and things that I do have just come to me and I have worked for them as well. I know I will live a comfortable life once I get more stable.

My background has not been abusive, unless abuse in a way that I don't recognize. I was adopted and it has effected me deeply and I'm just seeing how this is playing out in my life in recent years and I have been trying to heal. I have naturally not necessaryily healthy played this out in relationships. Oh those abandonment issues. Do you mean breakdown in my future homelife or being put up for adoption as a baby??

Thanks pluto sq.!! I must say astrology has helped me learn more about myself. Thanks for helping!!

posted April 14, 2011 11:36 AM            

As I mentioned before when we were intimate it was very intense. Even before we were intimate, I could tell he just knew how to touch me and I guessing he knew how to touch me. I most defintiely think because of my past issues, adoption, abandonment,etc it has made me controlling at times. I mean he vanished and for me at the core that means abandoment. But I know I enough now that I can't project those feelings on him no matter what. I'll go out on a limb and say him vanishing is to help me heal with my abandoment issues and realize I can only be abandoned if I abandoned myself. See I'm trying to be healthy and realistic!! I really do want a healthy realtionship : ) I may have scared him with my subtle controlling ways, But i've learned my lesson. He can come back now!! : )

You said I "Somehow you stand to have an effect on his drive and ambition and sexuality - In quite a powerful way." I agree. Me being a "strength Finder" I could definitely see his potential and I would always encourage him and support him where I could. When he would express he wasn't where he wanted to be career wise and finicially I would point out his strengths. I believe we energize each other. In that way. In my heart I feel he went away so he could but find himself and be proud of himself and so I could be proud of him. A man thang! Or is this my dreamy fantasy world Venus Pisces coming out to play again??? What do you think?? Was this what you meant by this question? Also what do you mean as far as me havin an effect on his sexuality in a powerful way? He vanished after the amazing sex. :?

posted April 14, 2011 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
But she doesn't know his birth time though.... So you can count the house placements, asc or moon aspects

So he might not actually have those planets in the 12th house.

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Thanks Mintgirl123!

posted April 14, 2011 11:50 AM            

Perhaps you would feel more comfortable if he spent less energy in the social arena? Does he have intense friendships? Perhaps, does he have very close friendships? Ones that are very intense, and then breakup? Would you feel more comfortable if he did not have this kind of way with friends?

Saturn seeks to put a stop to Pluto's destructive and intense energy. It desires to control, to reign in...

His moon is in 3rd in Aquarius. He is probably very inclined emotionally to be at ease with many people, and most desiring of relationship through friendship. There is an emotional coolness that prefers the company of many people, the communication with many people. He also has Jupiter in 9th, so there is success in higher learning, mingling with people different than him culturally, philosophically, etc. And, there is a desire on his part to embrace many different kinds of thought and cultures...

To say it simply, he desires very much to be a social creature.

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I have wondered if we got in a relationship if I would be able to trust him. I want a relationship of trust and loyalty. He is a social guy. I'm a social girl. During our unspoken attraction, it was as if he would test me and flirt with girls infront of me (Scorpio Trait) I would just let it go and laugh because these women would not even be interested. I know he was trying to get a rise. I played it cool, until one day I felt disrespected in August and whispered in his ear that he was an ******* for flirting like crazy with this woman we both know. You see he had spent the night over my house the week before and we cuddle. I felt like he had no regard for my feelings.I felt like he wanted a reaction so I gave him one. Even tho we don't owe each other anything "technically"

I want a healthy relationship where people repect each other's individuality and lives. So I'm up for that test. Like I said I naturally test him cuz I'm a friendly girl too. He has had to endure watching men flirt with me but had no claim because we weren't together. I would just see those scorpio rising and scorpio venus eyes piercing thru me. But I guess his aquarius moon kept him cool and detached. What do you think.?

posted April 14, 2011 11:56 AM            

Did the two of you quickly become friends, but as this relationship progressed, you find that maybe what drew you together is also disturbing to you emotionally? Perhaps, you are realizing a greater and greater need for stability in this relationship? Do you feel that in order to be happy, you would like to be as close together as possible? This is the effect of your Sun in Taurus, opposing his Scorpio ascendant. There is a lot of attraction and need to merge...

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I our friendship gradually grew, then one day there was no dying this connection. Yea I guess it is a bit distrubing because he vanished and I can't let go. I am definitely a nurture. Im a Taurus Sun, Cancer Rising and Leo Moon. It's how I am but I want to heal and find the healthy medium. I would like to be very close with him. It feels great when we are together. I think we would make great partners with lots of communication and understanding.

posted April 14, 2011 12:04 PM            

He is may feel insecure with a perceived inconsistency of affection? He is inclined to be very consistent and ambitious, there is a strong capricorn theme here with your partner. Is there an openness and expressiveness sexually or creatively that he is not comfortable with? And inconsistency?

Lastly, this could allude to a child. Is there a child from a prior relationship?

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I wonder about his past ? I can sense and from converstations about family life he has had a childhood that has emotionally. I wonder if we were in a relationship would he disclose things from his childhood past and adult past that my resurface.

As for as openness and expressiveness sexually or creatively that he is not comfortable with? And inconsistency? When we were intimate it was very open and comfortable. It may have been so good that it scared him. The chemistry was there. He may have been uncomfortable with the feelings that he had afterwards.

I don't have children. Last I checked he didn't know have any. Does this refer to future children we may have? or what?

posted April 14, 2011 12:11 PM            

The relationship is blessed with Jupiter conjunct ascendant, venus in 4th house in Capricorn... and is lended stability by saturn in 1st. Which gives stability.

However, there can be a tendency to fight a lot over material posessions, the up and downs of finances, and this could really threaten the relationship itself. A working and tending to the home theme is present, and it's very possible the two of you could end up married.

This may be inevitable.

Mars is in 1st house. Pluto in 2nd. If you find yourself fighting a lot, the two of you need to reflect on the personal insecurities you're both bringing into the relationship. Spend more time getting involved in physical activities, healthy competitions, rather than focusing your energies on each other.

Also, don't let the obscession with material security override the relationship itself. Pluto energy needs to be reigned in a lot in this relationship.

The two of you may have been drawn together to learn very important karmic lessons about trust, financial stability, fears surrounding stability, emotional integrity, control, etc.

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We have not gotten to this part yet of our journey. I guess this is information that I am privy too if we do start a relationship.

I feel like we have unfinished business and Would like to think he went away to transform himself as many scorpio influenced people do. I think I rocked his world and he needs time to think. Do you think we will reconnect and will he expressing his feelings to me?

If marriage is indicated why did he go vanish can you see that in our chart? and what could he possible be doing in our time apart? Also does the "good" out way the "bad" in this synastry and composite?