posted June 05, 2011 03:32 PM            

Placidus or Koch/Equal. I know there's always some conflict about what to use,but I see traits in my personality from both.

6th house... sensitivities/allergies, anxiety,shy(not sure if related:learning disabilities),attract some virgo people

5th house...romantic,creativity(dance,poetry,art,crafts),dramatic,wanting to be noticed(most of it's daydreams), can't keep a job, attract a lot of leo people it seems

Does anyone have any advice?

Please help ^_^

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posted June 07, 2011 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
equal. as Coffee put it, why should any one are of your life be greater or more important than any other? I think significant is the word he used.

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Thank You!

I may just decide on Equal house, it was the first house system that I used, though oddly I didn't realize it , and I think I understand equal house the best. The alternative would be whole sign,but it doesn't make sense to me to start at the beginning degree of the ascendant sign if you weren't born at that point.

Though, it also makes sense to me that the houses wouldn't be of equal sizes since objects in the universe aren't of equal measurement(I realize that Tropical isn't based on the stars), then again equal house being at around 29'(because that's where my ascendant degree sits) would also make sense since that's near the end of the astrological degrees and it would balance out anyway.

Also, it comes back to personality/thought/emotional/behavioral processes...

I apologize for rambling, I'm kind of thinking out loud.

I also meant to say that what Coffee said, is really philosophical,beautiful and makes sense.

posted June 08, 2011 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
ugh...you put aspect lines to everything...that gets so confusing...

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I'm sorry for any inconvenience , but at astro.com if you hit "aspect lines to all" it includes all the aspects in the graph below your chart, but if you don't hit it, it leaves aspects out for some reason.

At least it does that with me.

Also, it helps me to figure out any chart configurations I may have because I'm a visual person and also I have a learning disability in math.

If you'd like I can post a different chart that doesn't include that choice.

Please let me know.

posted June 09, 2011 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Holy cranberries!!! That is a lot of scorpio energy!

You've got 3 fixed T-sqaures with Saturn at the apex. Lots of energy in this chart, but I'll have to come back to it later when I'm in a more serious mood.

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LOL! Ok.

posted June 12, 2011 07:05 PM            

You might indulge in gossip more often than you like to admit and have a knack for finding the juicy secrets. Your life revolves around relationships. You're a very harmonious partner but you tend to bend over backwards to keep the peace.

posted June 12, 2011 09:04 PM            

Thank You for doing this.

I never asked you, just cause I'm nosy
what's your sign combination?
I must have missed it or something, somewhere.

Awkward is a good word for it

It's true I have a weird conflicting personality type. The Scorpio introvertedness combined with the Leo extrovertedness does definitely cause a problem and I find it difficult to figure myself out.

I've always come across as different and misunderstood to other people and yes, sometimes I do throw in a bit of the shock factor(different hair,different music, different behavior etc) I'm bad at casual conversation much of the time and I tend to listen while other people talk, with a few exceptions.

Also,I do tend to talk about things that aren't considered average and could be considered taboo.

Gossip isn't one of my favorite things, you're right,but I have participated in it and then regretted it. Yes, people have been known to tell me things in trust that they wouldn't tell anyone else.

Also, I do value the few relationships that I have and yes, I will/do tend to bend over backwards to keep the peace and harmony.

It's difficult for me to separate the different energies in my chart so I'm glad and grateful that you decided to say something.... I can use all the help I can get.

Like I said... you're doing wonderful! but if it's wearing on you(hence your ugh ) I wouldn't ask you to keep going. It's nice of you to tell me what you have.

posted June 13, 2011 12:53 PM            

In equal house you have
Saturn in 2nd house
Sun Mars Mercury in the 5th
Jupiter in the 11th

Those are the major differences.

Saturn is in the 2nd - The generic meaning of this is that you will have difficulty in attaining material wealth, like money and possessions like cars, houses blah blah blah. Cafeastrology says that it's not so much that you have difficulty in making money but more that you're not a risk taker therefore less risk less cash. I see this also as you being a little frugal in your possessions. You don't like to have a ton of things but the few things that you have are expensive and you probably save up money to buy them (Saturn in Leo). You probably feel like there's no point in having 50 things, or buying something you need to replace every year. You will buy the best product out there but buy it only once. I think there's also a possibility that you grew up with very little. If we look further into it Saturn is ruler of your 8th house (and 9th if you use the old house rulers) so the core of this frugalness is wanting to leave behind a legacy whether to the world or to kids/family. You like the idea of being known for collecting rare bookends (example...I don't know if you actually collect anything...)

Sun Mercury Mars in the 5th house- You have a knack for sports and drama. I think you'd make a good actress (probably not successful, since few are, but a good one nonetheless). You're fairly happy for a scorpio stellium. If you can't find entertainment, you become the entertainment. The 5th house stellium would explain all the Leos you attract. Since they get the whole 'look at me' attitude, and admit it, you do have it. You chase relationships constantly because you seek pleasure. Your drive (mars) is to seek the things that make you feel good and hey sex is usually on top of that list, add the scorpio to that...and well...lets not go further... The thing you should be careful about with mars in the 5th is to keep a balance between the pleasure seeking and the more stable boring stuff. Don't let your impulses drive you so much that you become irresponsible. (I don't think I see that happening but thought I'd mention it) You seek a good mental connection with people in general but especially in relationships, it's what seals the deal for you because self-expression and communication is also a pleasure for you.

There is a strong element of drama in your life, some which you create and some which you attract. There's a liveliness to it which is what you like about it the most. That feeling of being a live and just experiencing something. That something is Happening. If you're not involved in the arts you fancy to be somehow. You like art, music, all these things as a sense of self-expression, not only for you but in the case of others. You like to see, read, and hear it because in every piece of art there is left behind a bit of the person that created it which is what you find fascinating. The works of humans, the mind and especially the emotions and what it drives them to do. Again if you're not directly involved in the arts (music too) by directly creating it, you create in your mind. Or try to as much as possible in your home and in the way you express yourself. But I find it hard to image you don't draw, paint, write or play an instrument. Maybe you learn languages...that's an art in itself...and nothing better than being able to express yourself in many languages.

Jupiter in the 11th- I would say this compliments the 5th house stuff in that you have a fairly wide circle of friends and are naturally generous. You connect better to people who share your idealism, morals and ethics and like being part of a large group working towards something. This would probably be a good position for helping out organizations for community type things, working together with other people for a common goal. Based on the rest of your chart I don't see you really leading it, but more being a part of it and as long as your picture is included on a newspaper or something then you're happy The emphasis on this placement is ideals as a whole and not so much the individual. Even though you have wide circle of friends you are not very close to them which may very well be why you search for that fulfillment in a partner.

posted June 13, 2011 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
The ugh was more because I was tired and having a bit of difficulty reading your chart. I'll continue for a little bit right now and we can see how that goes....I'm going to keep the focus on the houses and house rulers bc of using equal house so that you might be able to see the difference.

In equal house you have
Saturn in 2nd house
Sun Mars Mercury in the 5th
Jupiter in the 11th

Those are the major differences.

Saturn is in the 2nd - The generic meaning of this is that you will have difficulty in attaining material wealth, like money and possessions like cars, houses blah blah blah. Cafeastrology says that it's not so much that you have difficulty in making money but more that you're not a risk taker therefore less risk less cash. I see this also as you being a little frugal in your possessions. You don't like to have a ton of things but the few things that you have are expensive and you probably save up money to buy them (Saturn in Leo). You probably feel like there's no point in having 50 things, or buying something you need to replace every year. You will buy the best product out there but buy it only once. I think there's also a possibility that you grew up with very little. If we look further into it Saturn is ruler of your 8th house (and 9th if you use the old house rulers) so the core of this frugalness is wanting to leave behind a legacy whether to the world or to kids/family. You like the idea of being known for collecting rare bookends (example...I don't know if you collect anything...)

Sun Mercury Mars in the 5th house- will be back with an edit for these. (hopefully today, if not tomorrow)

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posted June 13, 2011 06:04 PM            

Editing to add info about the t-squares: Not sure if you know but a t-square is but it's two planets in opposition squaring one planet. (The red triangles in your chart) You have 3 of these with Sun, Mercury, and Mars opposing Jupiter, squaring Saturn, Saturn is the apex and is receiving the tension from the other planets. It becomes a funnel of energy that is expressed through your Saturn. T-square energy is about doing, action, sometimes good sometimes bad because the energy is a bit unstable. The way to stabilize it to use the opposing energy of the apex, in your case, Aquarius energy. I know this is rather confusing but hopefully I'll help out a bit.

The needs of your t-square by the element of the apex, (Saturn in Leo therefore fire) will be me expressed through fiery action. Enthusiasm, direct honesty, exuberance, self-expression, assertiveness, and passion. Since Saturn is in your second house this is where the energies will be felt and expressed. So in this case, that which sustains your life. So basically money and what it can buy to help sustain your life, (food, clothes, pays your bills) but also things it can't buy namely talent because don't forget that the 2nd house is traditionally ruled by Venus. Both of the these things, the money and non-money possessions, point to your self-esteem and values, which where undoubtedly influenced by your parents as a child. Since you have Sun square Saturn, I'm assuming your father played a big role.

Your t-square is a fixed one. So the focus is on self-worth and maintaining it. In your case through the accumulations of material success (second house) not that material things are what you strive for but being able to provide for yourself materially is what gives you a sense of self-worth. You are happier knowing that you can buy yourself food to eat and a nice dress every now and then.

posted June 15, 2011 04:30 PM            

The needs of your t-square by the element of the apex, (Saturn in Leo therefore fire) will be me expressed through fiery action. Enthusiasm, direct honesty, exuberance, self-expression, assertiveness, and passion. Since Saturn is in your second house this is where the energies will be felt and expressed. So in this case, that which sustains your life. So basically money and what it can buy to help sustain your life, (food, clothes, pays your bills) but also things it can't buy namely talent because don't forget that the 2nd house is traditionally ruled by Venus. Both of the these things, the money and non-money possessions, point to your self-esteem and values, which where undoubtedly influenced by your parents as a child. Since you have Sun square Saturn, I'm assuming your father played a big role.

Your t-square is a fixed one. So the focus is on self-worth and maintaining it. In your case through the accumulations of material success (second house) not that material things are what you strive for but being able to provide for yourself materially is what gives you a sense of self-worth. You are happier knowing that you can buy yourself food to eat and a nice dress every now and then.

Like I have previously said there is an insane amount of more detail to this but I was trying to give you a taste for the different house systems. There's more in reference to the actual aspects but I kept it more house oriented.---------------------

Yes, I've heard of T-squares but I gave up on trying to interpret mine because there are so many different points of view on them, or so it seems, and also interpretations seem sort of vague,but I imagine with configurations you never quite know....as you said yourself...unstable.

So I'm assuming though that I should be more Uranian or Aquarian in regards to my talents and resources to keep the balance? Or am I supposed to combine the fire type energy to the aquarian energy?

I'm sorry I'm not sure If I understood correctly.

You're right though, I don't feel very good about myself if I can't at least contribute to taking care of myself and the people who I care about. I'm not necessarily material driven(I like "things" but I see being too attached to possessions can be the means to an end).It's also true I have to seriously work on my self confidence and self esteem in many areas, especially in regards to talents and resources.

You're very good at this!

posted June 15, 2011 07:49 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
More Aquarian energy I think. I haven't quite grasped the concept of the using the opposite energy thing. In your case encompassing more the whole versus the individual (Leo). So working with the community, with groups of people that sort of thing, instead of doing it all yourself, which Leo likes, but can and does wear you down, correct?

Do you better understand the differences in the houses? I just read somewhere (can't even remember where) that the aspects are the how? but the houses are the where? So you might get a better grasp once you've understood where exactly these energies are expressed.

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I think I understand the house meanings ok.

Though I suspect that a lot of planets in one house(a stellium) creates more than just a set of circumstances, I think that maybe it can create almost like another planet in the sign that's on the cusp of that house or maybe in the sign that ordinarily would rule that house...it's just a theory though.

As far as working with groups that particular situation is complicated with me...I work well with people who are like minded and/or who try to accept my "quirky ways"...so, in that case I can do well.

It's not that I'm not willing to change either it's just people have trouble "getting me".

In a "normal" work environment or a "regular" public environment people have trouble understanding me and/or I have trouble fitting in or I can't do the job (work of course), even though I try to blend and adapt.

In those situations it drains my energy.

Actually, lately people in general seem to drain my energy unless I'm communicating with them through indirect methods.

It's all a big frustration for me.

I'm still trying to figure out the lesson with that one.

Maybe I'm not supposed to fit in?
I could be wrong of course and just missing the entire lesson of the T-Square.

It seems like I attract a lot of Leo-Neptune-Uranus-Pluto energy type people I've noticed, so I guess I'm supposed to learn something....

I'm sorry if I'm rambling...

posted June 15, 2011 08:36 PM            

You lost me on this one...elaborate?

As far as working with groups that particular situation is complicated with me...I work well with people who are like minded and/or who try to accept my "quirky ways"...so, in that case I can do well.

That's your Jupiter in the 11th.

In a "normal" work environment or a "regular" public environment people have trouble understanding me and/or I have trouble fitting in or I can't do the job (work of course), even though I try to blend and adapt.

Well your Mercury is harshly aspected, your 3rd house ruler, the Sun also squares Saturn, and aside from Pluto you're pretty much Air void so communication is definitely hard for you. You have difficulty communicating your ideas and when you do they might come off harsh to people, a bit combative (Mercury conjunct Mars)

and big OOPS, 2 t-squares not 3...Mercury is too wide to be considered part of it. Some would consider the other planets too wide as well but I include aspects up to 10 degrees...well conjunctions, oppositions, and squares...trines and sextiles...eh not really.

Also you are a very introverted person, despite all the 5th house stuff. You've got all but one planet in the lower half of your chart, so yes introvert for sure. So maybe yes, you are not supposed to fit in and you're supposed to be an observer of sorts. It's a matter of accepting that. Your moon is in virgo and you have 10000000000000 planets in scorpio so yes I'd say you are a keen observer. We all have different roles in life, I myself am an observer...not sure if I've accepted it but hey, maybe one day

You would naturally attract a lot of Leo and Pluto energy just by your stellium alone. Neptune and Uranus both aspect your moon pretty closely and you have Uranus in the 5th, house of love given and Neptune in the house of service so I see how it could amplify the attraction. Giving a certain energy would help in attracting it and living a Neptune energy day to day (6th house rules daily things) would also attract that energy.

posted June 24, 2011 01:06 AM            

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, it seems that linda-goodman website was shut down for a little while.

I'm going to make this brief though, it's been a loooooooong day,but I wanted to get back to you before this post disappeared.

I was thinking that a large group of planets in one house, like I have, would be sort of be like Sun in Leo or maybe (since Libra's on the cusp) Sun in Libra or even Pluto in the 5th house since I have so many Scorpio planets.

I come up with some weird thoughts.

Thank You for your answers and advice.

You're correct, it's something that I've got to accept about myself (what you were saying about me being introverted)even though most of the people in america are extroverts.

I figured out another reason that I may be awkward, Mercury quincunx Chiron...
http://astrofix.net/2011/06/22/mercurychiron-aspects/#comment-233489259

It's a good description.