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1vanz
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posted June 24, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hola amigos. I come to you seeking guidance. I am a University student, and at my university there are exchange students every 6 months. I met a Spanish girl with whom I fell in love with (could not resist) and eventually she had to go back home. She is also in love with me.

My dilemma is this: Should I continue to fight for our relationship long distance until we figure something out, or do I let her go? The answer is life changing, so this question is causing me grief. Very soon I will have a discussion with her, but in the mean time she is traveling out the rest of her holidays.

The position of the planets/aspects etc are listed below, and the synastry chart is attached. Let me know if there is anything else you need to know. There is one thing I can't get yet: her time of birth. Any advice would be unimaginably appreciated.

If you can see anything from the synastry, let me know and I will try and see the correlations to how our relationship progressed over the past few months.

Positions of Planets
Sun 11°12' Libra
Moon 0°45' Sagittarius
Mercury 25°46' Virgo
Venus 25°15' Scorpio
Mars 9°39' Libra
Jupiter 9°54' Cancer
Saturn 7°44' Capricorn
Uranus 1°35' Capricorn
Neptune 9°39' Capricorn
Pluto 13°47' Scorpio
Chiron 17°11' Cancer
Ceres 2°52' Cancer
Pallas 6°32' Aries
Juno 15°02' Libra
Vesta 12°33' Capricorn
Node 24°38' Aquarius
Lilith 5°21' Scorpio
Fortune 0°01' Aries
AS 19°34' Taurus
MC 27°11' Aquarius

Outer Theme
Positions of Planets
Sun 10°29' Capricorn
Moon 29°26' Capricorn
Mercury 3°54' Capricorn
Venus 24°30' Scorpio
Mars 25°04' Pisces
Jupiter 17°35' Pisces
Saturn 15°26' Sagittarius
Uranus 23°38' Sagittarius
Neptune 5°42' Capricorn
Pluto 9°28' Scorpio
Chiron 18°03' Gemini
Ceres 5°49' Sagittarius
Pallas 13°14' Scorpio
Juno 12°44' Capricorn
Vesta 11°31' Aries
Node 16°45' Aries
Lilith 3°43' Cancer
Fortune 14°59' Aries
AS 26°02' Pisces
MC 27°56' Sagittarius
Positions of Houses
House 1 26°02' Pisces
House 2 8°54' Taurus
House 3 6°20' Gemini
House 4 27°56' Gemini
House 5 19°11' Cancer
House 6 15°23' Leo
House 7 26°02' Virgo
House 8 8°54' Scorpio
House 9 6°20' Sagittarius
House 10 27°56' Sagittarius
House 11 19°11' Capricorn
House 12 15°23' Aquarius
Interaspects
Venus Conjunction Venus Orb 0°45'
Sun Conjunction Neptune Orb 0°49'
Neptune Conjunction Saturn Orb 2°01'
Mercury Conjunction Uranus Orb 2°18'
Sun Conjunction Saturn Orb 2°45'
MC Conjunction Uranus Orb 3°39'
Mercury Conjunction Saturn Orb 3°50'
Neptune Conjunction Neptune Orb 3°57'
Neptune Conjunction Uranus Orb 4°06'
Pluto Conjunction Pluto Orb 4°19'
Mercury Conjunction Neptune Orb 5°45'
Venus Conjunction Moon Orb 6°15'
Uranus Conjunction Uranus Orb 7°57'
Sun Conjunction Uranus Orb 8°53'
MC Conjunction Saturn Orb 9°48'
AS Opposite Mercury Orb 0°16'
Sun Opposite Jupiter Orb 0°35'
Mars Opposite Mercury Orb 0°41'
Lilith Opposite Uranus Orb 2°07'
Neptune Opposite jupiter Orb 4°11'
Venus Opposite AS Orb 4°55'
Node Opposite Sun Orb 5°33'
Mercury Opposite jupiter Orb 5°59'
Node Opposite Mars Orb 7°06'
Sun Square Sun Orb 0°42'
Sun Square Mars Orb 0°50'
Uranus Square Mercury Orb 2°08'
MC Square Mercury Orb 2°10'
Venus Square MC Orb 2°41'
Neptune Square Mars Orb 3°56'
Neptune Square Sun Orb 5°29'
AS Square Uranus Orb 5°33'
Mercury Square Mars Orb 5°45'
Mars Trine Venus Orb 0°10'
Pluto Trine Jupiter Orb 0°25'
AS Trine Venus Orb 0°46'
Moon Trine Mercury Orb 3°40'
Jupiter Trine Pluto Orb 3°47'
AS Trine Moon Orb 4°43'
Mars Trine Moon Orb 5°41'
Pluto Sextile Neptune Orb 0°11'
MC Sextile MC Orb 0°44'
Venus Sextile Mercury Orb 1°16'
Moon Sextile Moon Orb 1°19'
Pluto Sextile Saturn Orb 1°43'
Jupiter Sextile AS Orb 1°59'
Sun Sextile Pluto Orb 3°18'
Uranus Sextile MC Orb 3°33'
Moon Sextile Venus Orb 4°11'
Saturn Sextile Sun Orb 4°13'
Lilith Inconjunction Moon Orb 2°57'
Venus SemiSquare Mars Orb 0°09'
Venus SemiSquare Neptune Orb 0°09'
Sun SemiSquare Venus Orb 0°14'
Lilith SemiSquare AS Orb 0°51'
MC SemiSquare Pluto Orb 0°51'
Sun SemiSquare MC Orb 1°42'
Venus SemiSquare Sun Orb 1°42'
Venus SesquiQuadrate Jupiter Orb 0°24'
Mercury SesquiQuadrate AS Orb 0°40'
Node SesquiQuadrate Moon Orb 1°00'
Neptune SesquiQuadrate AS Orb 1°08'
Saturn Quintile MC Orb 0°14'
Uranus Quintile Sun Orb 0°25'
Pluto SemiSextile Mars Orb 0°10'
Pluto SemiSextile Sun Orb 1°43'

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Randall
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posted June 24, 2011 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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1vanz
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posted June 25, 2011 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much it might be noteworthy to say that the inner chart is mine. I'm very new to astrology, sorry

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posted July 01, 2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Already long distance is almost proving too much for me emotionally

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1vanz
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posted July 07, 2011 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry if my request is a bit of a tall ask I guess the most important thing to me is if I can trust her or not. I've heard neptune is the planet of deception and we have a lot of it. Any advice regarding that would be appreciated soo much

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Ami Anne
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posted July 07, 2011 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi
The list is too hard on my eyes.If you want to list the Neptune aspects only with orbs ,I will look

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1vanz
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posted July 08, 2011 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhh sorry!! I didn't realise the format was so bad!! I will use Astro.com now and post up our two natal charts with transits.. The thing is, I don't know when she was born.. how important is this?

I hope this makes things clearer..

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Ami Anne
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posted July 08, 2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please go to Apple Greens thread and see how she listed them Darling

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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1vanz
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posted July 09, 2011 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami, I couldn't find a website that listed all the aspects where I could copy them out easily, and the task of writing them all individually looked so daunting.. I resorted to the easy print-screen method hehe. I hope it is easier for you to read, if it isn't I will do Apples way.

One thing I'm about to do in regards to our relationship is to send her an email/talk with her about absolutely everything I feel, potential problems, why I love her, questions about her past, etc.. I don't know if it will go too well, but I feel like I need to do this for the sake of the relationship.

Thank you

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1vanz
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posted July 09, 2011 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man that is so small
I am doing so many charts now that I need each one to be easy to read.
Try this---Just put up a synastry chart--just the two charts together. Let's start from there.
I won't look at the degrees right now.I am getting better with the simple synastry charts.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2011 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked over the list-- Ivanz
Put up the regular synastry chart with the two charts in comparison and we will go from there.

From my glance at the aspects-it looks like a GREAT synastry.
After I look at the chart,tell me what happened.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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1vanz
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posted July 10, 2011 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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1vanz
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posted July 10, 2011 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go Ami I appreciate SOoooo MUCH!

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posted July 10, 2011 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Can I chime in and say, it's funny you asking about trust and neptune - it is your neptune on here sun: You may seem to be illusive to her.

I also see no aspects from her planets to your ascendent, maybe creates more illusive energy?

I dont have a system for analysing charts, it's just the things that popped out to me.

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posted July 10, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sassaqua, So true. We are on other sides of the world, so we never really know what one or the other is doing. We barely get to talk now. I tell her all the time my strong feelings towards her, how much i care for her, how dedicated I am to her.. I am being honest and sincere, maybe it won't come off that way? This is a problem isn't it. I have an email in my drafts that I will send to her when the time is right, it discusses a lot of things... why I love her, potential problems, questions about her, etc.. I am trying to be realistic and not hasty in trusting in faith... She is idealistic and puts her self on the line. This conflict could be our downfall no? I don't know how she will react to the email, but as long as a very steadfast determination is made I am satisfied.

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posted July 10, 2011 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just what I wanted Ivanz Darlink
You put me to shame the way you put the charts up so effortlessly

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow
Venus conj Venus--so sweet lol
I saw some things I will need to meditate on.
Your Jupiter in the 2nd opposes Your Saturnm Neptune and Uranus in the 8th.

She has a constellation of planets in her tenth that conjunct your constellation of planets in the 8th.

I will need to meditate on this. I think it has a lot of significance but will need to have it click in

Her 10th house goes to your 8th. She may bring her structure and stability .

is that the case?

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posted July 10, 2011 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this a general these in your relationship? I ask cuz SUCH a focal point in your chart interacts with such a focal point in hers.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 10, 2011 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Jupiter conj Chiron in the 2nd.HOW does Jupiter conjunct Chiron work? Does Jupiter help take the pain of Chiron away or does it make it bigger lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 10, 2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would we interpret Jupiter PLUS Chiron in the 2nd house.
Jupiter gives luck .Chiron gives pain.
What do you think since you live it lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 10, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is interesting that you have little clusters of conjunctions.
I have never quite seen that. How does that play out I wonder.
You have little pockets of melded energy
Your Venus conjuncts the moon.
Your Mars conj the Sun
Your Jupiter con Chiron
You have the 8th house stellium in Cap.

I need to think about this for a while lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 10, 2011 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK her MC conjuncts her huge Stellium in Cap and also Uranus and Saturn(I think)

This is my theory.Tell me what you think.
She is kind of the father figure i.e structure ,authority,safety from structure, safety with organization of life in to a structure for you.

Her 10th house overlays your 8th. This may mean that you feel too 8th house i.e bogged down in deep feelings/passions that are hard to fathom.

She is very directed to the outside world/society/career

Her star feels good to follow cuz she seems to know where she is going in a very strong way.
What do you think? Always tell me if I am off. I am a student

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 10, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has Mars conj Jupiter conj the ASC.
It is in Pisces but STILL would give her drive. This furthers my theory that she is a go getter.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 10, 2011 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her NN is in Aries in the 1st--again showing her path in life is a strong sense of self with boldness and courage


So her SN would be in Libra suggesting she is easy to get along with.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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