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Topic: peculiar Horary
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 45 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 06, 2011 05:50 PM
So I've asked the same question 3 times in the past 2 weeks..and EVERY time I ask, the horary chart ends up with Scorpio ASC. It is a relationship question ("will me and ____ ever be in a romantic relatonship?")...so the 7th house of relationships is conveniently on Taurus, whose ruler is Venus. perfect! but....Venus keeps falling into the 8th house!! So what is this saying? We won't be in a romantic relationship but maybe a sexual one (8th house)?IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 979 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2011 03:32 PM
I had the same thing a few months ago. Every time I managed to even get the rising conjunct to my Sun/Saturn If I remember correctly, in a relationship question the faster moving planet is the person who is doing the most efforts towards the relationship - in my case that wasn't the case - he was doing most efforts towards sabotaging it, though. Unless he was doing an effort but thought I wasn't trying hard enough, thought it wasn't worth it and gave up... But I digress. I'm not all too good with horaries (I just pick things up here and there, but couldn't really read a horary chart well) so I'm afraid I'm not too much help here
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Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 06:40 PM
Where is the Mars (ruler of the 1st, you?) in aspect to the Venus (him) ?Actually, I can't tell whether to use Pluto or Mars. lol;; Supposedly, if they are in good aspect, it's probably yes. Also- the placement of the Moon is important. Where is the Moon? I'm in the same boat as you. Just dabbling in Horary. But I saw your question, and I thought, I want to do this too for myself.
So I basically asked the same question for myself XD. And ironically, My question also has Scorp Asc with Venus in the 8th lol. Now, I have the same question lol IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 06:51 PM
Actually, could you post the chart? I want to look at it No promises of any answer though IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:39 PM
The rules of Horay is that you cant ask the same questions over and over again.. The universe is saying I already told you.. Only the first chart has the real answer.. You can ask the same question aprox 3 months later, or if the situation has a "drastic change" Ive been learning about Horary. Post the first chart.. I will take a look... Cant promise anything but I will look IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 14139 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: The rules of Horay is that you cant ask the same questions over and over again.. The universe is saying I already told you.. Only the first chart has the real answer.. You cant ask the same question aprox 3 months later, or if the situation has a "drastic change" Ive been learning about Horary. Post the first chart.. I will take a look... Cant promise anything but I will look
WOW interesting Lioness Someone did a Horary for me and it was SO beautiful.It filled me with joy. I was surprised I got the answers I did but it felt like God was giving me a gift. Horary seems too hard for me to learn to do right now lol ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Applegreen: Where is the Mars (ruler of the 1st, you?) in aspect to the Venus (him) ?Actually, I can't tell whether to use Pluto or Mars. lol;; Supposedly, if they are in good aspect, it's probably yes. Also- the placement of the Moon is important. Where is the Moon? I'm in the same boat as you. Just dabbling in Horary. But I saw your question, and I thought, I want to do this too for myself.
So I basically asked the same question for myself XD. And ironically, My question also has Scorp Asc with Venus in the 8th lol. Now, I have the same question lol
You use Mars for Scoprio.. The traditional rulers. Pluto/Uranus/Neptune are not used as rulers in Hoary. Jupiter is used for Pisces/Sag. Saturn is Aqua/Cap
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:46 PM
Ami I have seen some amazing outcomes with Hoary which is why I wanted to learn it.. Im in no way an expert.. But Im getting the basics... Hoary can tell everything thats going on. If the right person is reading it... (not me btw..lol) IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: You use Mars for Scoprio.. The traditional rulers. Pluto/Uranus/Neptune are not used as rulers in Hoary. Jupiter is used for Pisces/Sag. Saturn is Aqua/Cap
Thank you, Lionness. Actually, if it's all right with you, would you mind taking a look at my horary chart as well? No promises of course! But I'd like a second opinion if it's okay
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:51 PM
SURE!!! I love the practice!!! Just keep in mind Im a super novice!! barely learning.. so I cant really give a for sure, just my opinion. IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:55 PM
Thanks Lioness Anything would be great!Here's my chart: http://i.imgur.com/1H1IO.gif Question is "Will ____ (me) and ____ (him) ever be in a romantic relationship?" IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 07:56 PM
I really liked if Pluto was Scorp's ruler... cuz then Pluto, Venus, and Moon are all in Cardinal signs... and Moon is translating light... but now I have no idea lolIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 14139 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: Ami I have seen some amazing outcomes with Hoary which is why I wanted to learn it.. Im in no way an expert.. But Im getting the basics... Hoary can tell everything thats going on. If the right person is reading it... (not me btw..lol)
Lioness There is someone on LL who is SOOO good but I don't want to say her name or she will be swamped. She gave me so much joy!!!! ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:04 PM
Maybe she will come along and help Apple.. Im looking now.. give me a bit.. IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:14 PM
Thank you Lioness Seems I'm represented by Mars in Gemini. It is in the 7th house. Maybe represents my desire for a relationship? Venus is him, and he is in the 8th house in Cancer. Venus seems to be pretty happy in the early degrees of Cancer. Happy with our current sexual relationship? They don't make any aspects to eachother. >< But the Moon is aspecting both of them... but Moon is going farther and farther away from Venus >< IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:21 PM
Im still looking but... Here's what I see right off the bat... You are Mars he his Venus.. Romantic relationship is Mars.. Venus and Mars have no contact with each other. Im thinking some sort of communication problems.. (may be from his point of view) Saturn is in his house of endings, along with the moon.. Do you work with him?????? Or know him through business contacts. He's moving towards the Sun and away from you.. Sun rules H9... Is he going through H9 themes right now.. travel.. etc??? Also he's in his 2nd.. So IDK he's concentrating on him self, his values or money.... I think he thinks your a lot of fun, though, he likes being around you... See Im no good... LOL
Its just a try... hahahah IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:29 PM
Thanks Lioness First, a question, What do you mean by house of endings? Communication problems, yes. We're just sex buddies at the moment... since six weeks ago. We both agreed to be just friends because we both just got out of relationships. I admitted I liked him before we agreed to just be friends for now, but then I told him I'd never fall for him. But I did fall for him. <_<; He's actually overseas at the moment. Debating whether or not to admit this to him while he's overseas or when he comes back. Yes, he's trying to find a job.. which is another reason why he is overseas. He'll be back in two and a half weeks. We met... spontaneously thanks to me randomly introducing myself to him last November. lol. But we've known eachothers faces for years now because of college clubs. I'm glad that he likes being around me- where do you see that part, if you don't mind me asking? No no no- you are way better than me. Thanks for your input IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:42 PM
HAY!!! SO he does have H9 and H2 themes going on.. This is where his focus is.. I dont think he's thinking about a relationship at this time. He likes being around you, because he has a nice trine to Jupiter in Your H5 and his H11 the house of endings is H4 in horary... When 2 people are invloved you flip the chart.. His H1 is your H7.. So your in his first house... (understand) As for the cardinal signs.. Hummm I want to be honest here... I dont cardinal is necessarily a good thing in Horay.. It shows things can change quick, and also some Cardinal desires going on with you two.. (clearing throat) Maybe once he gets a job and gets settled, things will change.. Over all I say his focus is on his travel/job/values
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:47 PM
WAIT!!! This is a secret HUH!!! I think you two are a big secret with each other.... Your hiding secrests!! la la la... hahahha or both of you are hiding something from the other? IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:54 PM
Yes-- it is a huge secret. How did you know LOLOL We act like we barely know eachother in friendly gatherings LOL
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Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:56 PM
Yup! Right on the dot with his stuff going on Ahh it makes me really happy that he likes being around me. He's so hard to read. And he always says "I don't mind" = =; IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Applegreen: Yes-- it is a huge secret. How did you know LOLOL
the Universe told me! BUSTED!!! lol
oooo oooooo oooo I'M TELLIN!!! not for reals IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 08:57 PM
TELL ME THE SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE PLEASE LOLIP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 2664 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 09:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Applegreen: TELL ME THE SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE PLEASE LOL
I told you Hoary will reveal whats really going on. I didnt catch it at first but now I see it.. IP: Logged |
Applegreen Knowflake Posts: 167 From: A star between Venus and Mercury Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 09:02 PM
If you could tell me how you came to that conclusion I will be eternally grateful! hehe My curiosity must be sated! LOL IP: Logged |