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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 23, 2011 10:15 PM This my natal chart (I feel exposed ) I am interested in objective feedback, and appreciate any efforts! Thanks Ami honey IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 06:42 AM Anyone want to have a try? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:06 AM Darling Being exposed is the step toward wisdom ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:08 AM Let's start totally from the beginning/Do you want to do that Sass? I have lost my flow with it, anyway.I need to flow from beginning to end in a certain way to get the person in to 3D to the best of my ability. Tell me what you want to do. ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 07:10 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Darling Being exposed is the step toward wisdom Here's hoping love Ok ami - if it helps you - take it from the top baby! Let's do it! IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:11 AM Sass Darling If you want to start from the beginning, I would like to link Mert's article and discuss your 12th house planets. I want to see if I can really feel them out. ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:12 AM Sweet One Listen--The unexamined life is not worth living x o x o IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:16 AM http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/209299.html ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:18 AM Venus in Cap Mars in Sag in the 12th house Lets just talk about these--in terms of 12th house only so we don't get too many things on the table. Lets take Merts descriptions and go for it. Would you cut and paste Merts descriptions of Venus and Mars, Baby? ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 07:36 AM Will do now honey bunny Did you see my response in that thread ami? I'll post that here too. Here's the interps from the thread on the 12th house: If you have the love planet Venus in the Twelfth House you may cut others off emotionally. You may also come off as harsh, cold or dispassionate to others. You may also lack a sense of humor. You might be inordinately interested in sex or death and addiction to pornography is likely. A sado-masochistic streak may dominate events in the bedroom. However you may also possess an unearthly beauty or dress in a very Goth like fashion. You have a fascination with death. Celebrities who have this placement are Meryl Streep, Ashley and Mary Kate Olsen, Linda Lovelace, River Phoenix and Mia Farrow. People with Mars in the Twelfth House are often hiding a very explosive or dangerous personality beneath a calm exterior. If you have this placement of Mars you are probably a walking time bomb. As your entire libido goes towards feeding your anger you may not necessarily have a very high sex drive. You are more likely then most people to die from a violent act or accident. Famous individuals with this twelfth house Mars trait are Britney Spears, Milla Jovovich, Che Guevara, Mick Jagger, Jude Law, Bill Clinton, David Bowie, Tom Selleck and Anderson Cooper. Here's my response in the same thread: I have mars in the 12th (and venus). i don't think i have an explosive personality. I can relate to what Dayandnight says. I've thought more about this placement since ami looked at my chart. I believe mars is about healthily asserting oneself, so not initially aggression. I realise I have difficulty asserting myself and my boundaries(12thH). People can take advantage, or not know where my limit is, sometimes perhaps thinking I'm a pushover. Then I get angry, but often it's after the fact. Mars in 12th is a sense of frustration too, as it's difficult to both identify, access AND direct the energy outwards. Takes a lot of energy! Like dayandnight, I have to work consciously to recognise and express when I am angry. The up side is that, I think can do this quite well now - I say eg: "I'm feeling angry with you because..." Interesting to note that Brittany has spent a fair time in institutios (incl the micky mouse club ) And, it might seem that she tends to turn on herself on many ocassions. That frustration of not being able to access or direct it, then it turning inwards? -------- They were my thoughts Ami.. I have been thinking about the 12 a bit recently. I think mars can get frustrated here, as the energy needs to go outward. That's why I run and swim and channel it to creative things IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:44 AM I will study it Darling. When we are all done with you, your guy and all the rest.I will let you do me ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:47 AM Ok Lets discuss Venus in the 12th.I dated an Aries Venus in the 12th guy. I will just share this for purposes of the discussion cuz it seemed strange to me and sad ,too. Merts description reminded me of it. Tell me what you think cuz your Venus is there.If anything it too personal,just tell me and we will go on to something else K? ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 07:50 AM No worries ami, I'm fine with personal. I just love to get to the truth. This guy was an Aries? Or his venus was in Aries? As Frasier would say: I'm listening.. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:51 AM OK This guy told me he had a sexual secret. He would not tell me. This went on for months and months. I was not having sex with him cuz I am a born Again Christian as you all know. I don't have sex outside marriage unless I slip ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 07:53 AM Unless YOU "SLIP"???? A true christian through and through then Re secret, especially around sex, I don't have any. I am like snow white. I don't do anything dirty, I accidently saw some of porn - once, about 2 years ago, and feel scarred for life. I don't screw randoms - though I would if I wanted to - I'm not moral. I like to protect my psychic energy though. I'm not judgemental, I just like to stay emotionally and psychically clean and safe. I wonder if other people are even aware of the psychic exchange that occurs in sex(I think it does anyway). I've had one night stands mind you - I'm not a prude and have experimented with a range of personalities in my life, but I've been conscious of it and what I was doing, and done it respectfully, and for my own growth and learning. How's that for open. Anyway, back to this guy's secrets IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:54 AM So ,anyway he told me he had a sexual secret. He was super secretive about it. My mother told me she thought he was a cross dresser cuz of the degree of secretiveness. Well, if I loved someone I could deal with that I guess lol Anyway,this went on for a long ,long time. In the midst of this, I realized he was not for me,too. However,he finally told me what his secret was. He liked transexual porn. That was the only thing he liked and his only fantasy. I thought "So, what??? Big deal" Was this the huge secret he was keeping for over a year? That made me come to some conclusions about Venus in the 12th. ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:56 AM That made mt think that Venus in the 12th has huge shame over their sexuality, huge secrets that a normal person would NOT think was even a secret. The next guy was so OPEN about everything that I realized how much shame the 1st guy had. What do you think Sass? ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 07:58 AM He was a Gem Sun and Aries Venus in the 12th ,sass ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 08:00 AM quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Unless YOU "SLIP"???? A true christian through and through then Hey got to keep in real,Girlfriend IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 08:03 AM Some of the things he had which were off putting to me was the Aries Venus.I could never be with an Aries Venus guy. So, I have to distinguish this from 12th house. I think I can lol The 12th house stuff made him think he was SO weird when he just had a fetish shall we say. It was no huge biggie. I notice this sense of being DIFFERENT sexually with 12th house Venus. That is what I am getting at.Do you have that Sass? ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 08:06 AM After we get done beating the Mars and Venus to death, we can look at their aspects ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 08:09 AM Transexual porn?? CRICKY AMI!! That would freak me out. I like my sex pure! Or, at least, I don't go very many places with someone if I don't completely trust them. Men are just too preditory and disrespectful to women. Why I hate porn too. But yes, he had his secrets in aries. Very base. Maybe the equivalant - is my secret might be, I would like to be in a higher place in society feeling this would boost my personal esteemed - capricorn venus. Maybe it's the lack of Pluto contacts in my chart that make me less sexually focused I have been described as "athletic" though (mars in sagg) (I made edit to my post above) IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 08:19 AM quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Transexual porn?? CRICKY AMI!! That would freak me out. I like my sex pure! Or, at least, I don't go very many places with someone if I don't completely trust them. Men are just too preditory and disrespectful to women. Why I hate porn too. Maybe it's the lack of Pluto contacts in my chart I have been told though that I am athletic Well I must be unusual. Most things don't freak me out to hear about them but I would DO very few weird things--- none actually If someone has weird fantasies, I don't care if he tells me though. Do you feel like you have lots of sexual secrets? You don't have to say them obviously.Do you just feel you have a lot of things you could never tell anyone? ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 16052 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 24, 2011 08:33 AM Ok I missed your answer about sexual secrets. Well before we leave Venus--summarize how the 12th house Venus seems to you if you care to-- ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 24, 2011 08:33 AM No, I'm very much an open book. Perhaps the neptune, jupiter and mars in sagg make it that way. Particularly the jupiter in sagg. My ex's venus was conjunct mine, his is in HIS 12th too (we had very similar charts). I think he was heaps secretive, and probably some sexual "issues" there, that we didn't ever really get too. His jupiter was in cap (in 1st). Again, maybe my jupiter in sagg makes me more open. It is attached to my ethics too about being open, so yes, maybe the jupiter. If you are interested, I wes reading this Donna Cunningham articles on the 12thH(more article links at base of page):http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/readers-ask-basic-questions-about-the-12-houses/ Ami, I have edited the above posts too, you may have missed them. IP: Logged

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