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PiscesGirl
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posted August 17, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, i had asked for a horary reading the other day (but truthfully probably messed up on it as my own understanding was not high on the matter and may have given the wrong time etc..) and the Asc was only at 3 degrees and too early to tell anything (again I may have messed up). So last night I asked another question, focused on it and noted the time. I didn't have time to come here then but I have all the details:

The question: Will he finally ask me out? (not asking this time if it is significant etc... but am asking if he'll find the courage--he is very shy on love matters--to ask me out. It is like I know he wants to as well as others that see us together)

Birth information of the question:

Time 6:10 PM on 8/16/2011 in San Francisco CA

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love being Aries
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posted August 17, 2011 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
now I have a confusion and i will wait for others to appear whether to take the 5th house in account of 7th for that matter!

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northernlad
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posted August 17, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for northernlad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read conflicting things. Some say always use the 7th when asking about another person, but others say to keep it very house specific. (i.e. co-worker, use 6th) In this case, I'd go with the 5th, because someone asking you out is more romance than serious long-term relationship.

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Hera
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posted August 17, 2011 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She sees him as a potential partner (right?) so it's 7th house, but look at the 5th as well.

Your other chart also had Saturn in the 7th, another impediment for reading the chart. It usually means an astrologer doesn't see the answer clearly and that you probably know it (but you doubt and ask in confirmation because you sense there are obstacles).

I'm too lazy right now to post the chart. I just woke up, it's 3 am and I can't go to sleep right away, but I did take a look at the chart.
You're Saturn in Libra in the 9th, exalted, it speaks of inner excitement. He's Moon in Aries in the 2nd house, at the Aries Point. He just took some sort of change within himself. Aries being an action oriented sign, I say he doesn't lack the courage to ask you out. The problems I see are these:
-he is in your fall, meaning either he doesn't like you as much as you think he does or doesn't like you the way you'd want. Your significator falls in his 3rd house, not a very romantic house, you're probably not someone he considers a potential partner. Or there's something about you he resents/dislikes and this is holding him back.
-his significator is in an applying conjunction to Uranus, sugesting he's rather unstable right now and something will probably change in his attitude, something shocking, surprising, something you don't see coming. He's also applying to square Pluto and Mars and later on he will apply for an opposition with you (from your fall - it doesn't look very positive). He probably has other worries and concerns, other things stressing him out.
-there might be other romantic interests... There are 3 planets in his house... Sun, Venus and Mercury, all of which are very powerful and have means of action. Sun is in domicile and angular, Venus and Mercury are cazimi, though Mercury is retro. Venus might be another significator for you, but again this is not a good sign, because he's also in the sign of detriment for Venus (he doesn't like you as a woman, either). He does like Sun, though, being in Sun's exaltation and triplicity. I don't know who Sun is, but it's someone he's very fond of.

Sun could be another significator for him, as well. But there are no aspects between Sun and Saturn. And again, the Sun is in your detriment. There's something about you he dislikes and this is why he doesn't make a move. If we consider you Venus, Venus is separating from the Sun... so again I don't see anything all that positive to say.

Mercury is your 5th house ruler and it's retro. Since you asked about him asking you out... if there's any chance of him doing so, it would be after a while, when Mercury turns direct and conjuncts Sun all over again. Also the opposition between your significators, which is not even in orb yet (13 degrees) and happens after he would square two other planets and conjunct a third, suggests things or other people are getting in the way and if you are getting your wish, it will take a while...

I'm sorry I wasn't more positive. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come and bring you better news. But hey, keep positive thoughts and if nothing comes out of this, it means it wasn't right for you and someone better will come along.

Best wishes to you, darling!

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Snake Lady
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posted August 17, 2011 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake Lady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Pisces Girl

I'm really not that experienced with horary charts. I've only recently learned the basics about it.
But from what I can see, it looks like the answer is yes. I think he just needs to feel more comfortable with you... more... at home, maybe.

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***Whatsoever desires one entertains
That he definitely obtains***
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Snake Lady
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posted August 17, 2011 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake Lady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.. ok, I guess I posted my reply at the same time as Hera.
Like I said... I'm very inexperienced.

Hey... we'll see what happens.

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Hera
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posted August 17, 2011 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's alright, Snake Lady, I'm still learning too.

I was thinking, after I posted my reply to you, that the first chart probably holds the answer. I feel tempted to ask more specifically too, in the hope that a clear answer will come to me. But truth be told, the first chart is the valid one. I will take a look at it again, now I must go back to sleep.

I did, however, take another look at one of my recent horaries about this guy I'm seeing. First chart I drew asking about him has Saturn right on DC. Sometimes I look at this position giving Saturn the power of significator for the other. I shall explain with my example. Moon (not my original significator, but a significator for myself) was applying for a square to Saturn from Saturn's detriment, 2 degrees in orb. 2 weeks after I asked the first question, we went out (my idea, I applied to him) and we started dating. But we've also been fighting a lot and there are things about him I dislike, I almost dropped the relationship during an argument (I'm in Cancer, a detrimental sign for him; I have different expectations and seeing he didn't fall into that pattern disappointed me at some point). Moon was in domicile in Cancer, and in the 4th house (his derived 10th - he holds me in high esteem), so I called the shots. Despite the fact there were things holding me back, I decided (because Moon was in a very strong position) to take a chance with him. We're still together, though.
But, my point is, sometimes Saturn in the 7th can be used as a significator for him. I will try this when looking at your first chart again. But now must sleep.

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PiscesGirl
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posted August 17, 2011 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Hera and Snake lady.

@snake lady since Hera posted their explanation of the reading, I would be interested in you posting why you concluded yes. I ask because it is different news than Hera's and I always like to look at things from all angles (not that I'm saying Hera is wrong).

Hera's reading is hard to swallow for me, not so much because of my desire but more so because of the displays that come from him. He has on more than one occassion made strong displays of affection and even attraction but then pulls back. He is a cancer btw and so I usually attribute that to his 'crab dance.'

He has expressed some things to me, (he shares A LOT of stuff with me and even though I've only known him a few months I know him better than co-workers that have known him for years) that have held him back from seeking a relationship. He recently went on vacation, came back and is working on those things--he has told me as much. He hasn't told anyone else. I can't help to think he is making the changes that he THINKS he needs to make to enter a relationship (little does he know I like him just as he is). The main thing is he thinks he needs a better job and is now trying to do just that.

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Snake Lady
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posted August 17, 2011 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake Lady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, man, I sensed that he may be a Cancer. Well my reasons for saying what I did would probably sound pretty silly and uninformed if I tried to explain it astrologically, because I was really going more on my intuition, due to my inexperience.

I sensed that he may just be insecure about something and that's what is holding him back from making a move... And then it popped into my head that he is probably a Cancer.

I'm a Cancer too, by the way, so I understand the need to feel competent before entering into a relationship with someone I really like... He needs to feel more at home with himself. Making money would definitely contribute to that, since Cancers love money. Hehe. But we tend to have low self-esteem and most of the time only we can prove ourselves to ourselves, if you know what I mean. But timely reassurance is also reaaally welcome.

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***Whatsoever desires one entertains
That he definitely obtains***
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Snake Lady
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posted August 17, 2011 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake Lady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, man, I sensed that he may be a Cancer. Well my reasons for saying what I did would probably sound pretty silly and uninformed if I tried to explain it astrologically, because I was really going more on my intuition, due to my inexperience.

I sensed that he may just be insecure about something and that's what is holding him back from making a move... And then it popped into my head that he is probably a Cancer.

I'm a Cancer too, by the way, so I understand the need to feel competent before entering into a relationship with someone I really like... He needs to feel more at home with himself. Making money would definitely contribute to that, since Cancers love money. Hehe. But we tend to have low self-esteem and most of the time only we can prove ourselves to ourselves, if you know what I mean. But timely reassurance is also reaaally welcome.

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***Whatsoever desires one entertains
That he definitely obtains***
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