posted August 24, 2011 06:50 AM            

I would prefer Tarot, if possible, or other non-astrological readings. Astrology only points out the good and the bad and leaves me with the hard work - the decision. I would like objective advice about that decision, which I'm confused about.

Many thanks in advance, and if there's something I can do to return the favour, don't hesitate to ask.

posted August 24, 2011 08:19 AM            

I read tarot for myself and my friends, but I am by no means an expert, and I read as much with intuition as I do with interpretation - the accuracy of this is a matter of opinion, but I often feel that serendipity steps in.

I am not psychic, nor in communion with any higher beings, not that I'm aware of any way.

I have also never done a reading for anyone who was not present in my company, so I don't even know if I am able to do one over the internet. I would probably require a photo of your face, I read faces - not in an esoteric sense, more in an instinctual-getting-a-feel-for-the-person sense.

posted August 24, 2011 09:02 AM            

You both know what relationship I am talking about, as you have been by my side through all the pain it caused. I am asking, in short, about its true essence, the lesson I was supposed to learn from it and whether or not I should do something about this relationship (if there even is something to do about it)... I trust both of you and your insights & instincts.

Let me know what you need from me or what I should do. Voix, I can post a picture of myself, but I'm going to delete it afterwards if that is not a problem. I will take one today and try to be as open as possible so you can tune in with me. I don't know if it will work, but I will try.

posted August 24, 2011 09:14 AM            

Hera, I won't be able to do the reading until later tonight once my wee one is in bed, so probably best not to post the picture until about 7.30-8PM (GMT - not sure where you are?) if you don't want it lingering on the forum.
Another option would be to email it to me, but I'm not sure if I am allowed to put my email in the forums.
Maybe upload it to photobucket, or a similar site and you could give me the link which I can bookmark, then remove the link from the thread? The picture can then be deleted from photobucket after I've posted.

Dysfunctionalmystic, from your credentials, this is definitely more your territory than mine, but I'm happy to give my own perspective. It could be an alternative way of looking at the situation, or it could make it more confusing. I'm not sure?

posted August 24, 2011 09:25 AM            

I've got my kids due back in three hours and have to finish painting a bedroom before that so it'll definitely be tonight before I can give this the time that I'd like.

posted August 24, 2011 09:53 AM            

I will post my picture and leave it here until your reading is finished, Voix, it doesn't bother me if it stays here a bit longer, but I don't want it permanently on the Internet because I tried my best to relax all my muscles (I'm usually quite rigid) and be as welcoming and open as possible and it is not a stance of myself I would like lingering on the net. It looks a bit funny because I was laying on the sofa (I felt more relaxed like this, almost felt sleepy) and was facing the camera up. Let me know if this is a good picture, if you can get a vibe from me.

How lovely you both have kids!!! I love kids and can't wait to have one myself. I will wait as long as it takes, please take your time. I am very grateful to you both for doing this.

*edit* It's embarrasingly big! I'll try again. It's still too big, I tried to resize it but it appears the same... Hope it's not too scary.

posted August 24, 2011 10:39 AM            

I can connect with that picture, it's very expressive.

This is completely irrelevant to the reading, but you've been gifted with fabulous eyes and beautiful skin.

posted August 24, 2011 03:11 PM            

Oh, thank you for the compliments, Voix and Amy! Unfortunately I'm having an awful skin period (Saturn just finished opposition to Sun and is about to start squaring Asc). The picture only captured a few. Hope my skin will clear out eventually. *sigh*

posted August 24, 2011 04:35 PM            

There is a picture of your reading at the end - god knows what size it will be, sorry if it's massive, I'm a photopostinginforum's dunce!

I will go through the positions systematically, showing what each position suggests about your part and his.

The Self:

You
– 9 of cups –
this tells me that you have many choices, and that there is an air of high energy around you connected to pleasure, play and self-expression.
These are likely aspects of your being just now, or in general, and could be attracting-factors in your personality.

OP (Other Party)
– The Lovers –
this tells me he has a pressing decision to make, but it is a decision made with the heart and not the head. The Lovers can also represent contracts, or commitments.
Perhaps he is over committed at the moment, as there is a sense of urgency with this card (and also the card that appears in your common ground position later on)

Personal Blocks:

You
-Queen of Wands-
this tells me that your independence may be intimidating.
You may be coming across very self-assured, and contained, and therefore, unreachable.
Firey temperament, and dominance are also associated with this card – is it possible your hand may be a little heavy on both yourself and the other party?
Could your fire be burning too fast, and heading for burn-out?

Other Party
-The Chariot-
he seems to be trying very hard to navigate and control in his life right now – this may be with his emotions, or just different factors of life that require a tight rein.
This also represents a journey into the unknown after letting go of the past – the first emotion associated with this in almost every human being with be trepidation, and/or fear – I feel this is his block, the fear to let-go, but also the loss of control, and therefore, autonomy.

Note: These two cards strike me as a power struggle – both are used to being in control of themselves and their lives, so it may be a case of the unstoppable force meet the immovable object. One is trying to direct, while the other is resisting or pulling in another direction.

The Past (travels along the bridge of the block card to the Emotions in the next position):

You
-The World-
here we have high achievement, and accomplishment, the realisation of wishes, and of one’s part in the greater whole.
This is probably nodding to your career.
As this leads to the block position, it may be possible that the emotional side of your person has been somewhat put on the backburner, in favour of academia and career accomplishment. This is not a negative thing in itself, but it may have resulted in a certain naivety toward relationships not connected to the workplace.

Other Party
-6 of Wands-
he seems to have had some battle to fight in the past, but has recently reached a place where he can reap the rewards of victory over adversity.
As this card has led to his block (the chariot), he may be reluctant to ‘put himself out there’ again so to speak, after his recent recovery from battle. The wounds may be healed, but the memory still fresh.
There is a saying someone related to this card that always stuck with me, it may or may not have relevance here: “How short a time the laurel crown stays green”—Dante (the man depicted in the card in my deck wears a laurel wreath on his head).

Emotions Regarding Each Other/the Situation:

You
-Wheel of Fortune-
this card is expressing a turning point, but one that is unpredictable to us. It also hints at the work of destiny. I see this as you feeling that the relationship has a fated quality to it.
You feel drawn to the other party perhaps in a way that you feel may be out of your control. It’s also suggesting your recognition that perhaps all the answers cannot be seen right now, and you may just have to wait for the wheel to turn to see where you guys land.

Other Party
-The Moon-
this card can be confusing and seem overly negative, but really it is just a warning – things may not be as they initially seem.
In the context, I believe it alludes to his withholding of communication, of his confusing stories that leave you feeling ‘in the dark’, or deceived. It could indeed be saying that he is being deceptive, but certainly secretive – he is hiding a part, or parts of himself.
Which leads me to another connotation of this card, it can also allude to mental illness – if you take a look at the illustration, there are dogs barking at the moon, this can suggest ‘madness’ – I don’t like that term, but it best fits the phrase.
Other feelings around this card are of anxiety (which is in itself a mental health condition, if severe enough), and illusion.
He may also be deceiving himself in some way, perhaps he really desires a close relationship, but is not emotionally available enough to actually be a healthy part of one.
Another point that may be relevant is the moon can also point to an over-active imagination – perhaps there has been some confabulation, which is not entirely untruthful, but definitely misleading.

Motivations/Intentions:

You
-Knight of Swords-
this tells me of your need to cut through the BS to the heart of the situation, to communicate and take appropriate action.
You are done waiting.
You are ready to start stripping down, sorting through , throwing away, and ready to stare the truth of the matter right in the soul.
You are striving for clear-sight, and are employing your reasoning powers to do so – but the strongest urge is to act, to remove, to cut out, to see what is left, to see the truth.

Other Party
-King of Wands-
I see this as him trying to move towards warmth, to be seen to be all-encompassing, accepting and wise.
To provide safety.
It is also a move toward leadership and willpower.
I’m not sure how to interpret this tbh. He may be trying to rectify a past mistake by not being so easily swaying by his desires, or he may simply be making sure he is ‘on top of the game’, untouchable, playing the part, but superior to the participants – I’m not saying this is how he is, but fear can cause the need to be set apart in some way, and one way to do that is to be on top, be the boss, have total rulership. It doesn’t mean you are nasty, or unkind, you can still love with as much passion as anyone’s heart allows, but your authority is unquestionable, and you are not led – you lead, and expect to be followed.

Thoughts:

You
-Ace of Wands-
you are focused on a new beginning, the birth of a new relationship, or indeed a family.
Also, you may be feeling very goal-oriented atm, you are mentally getting ready for the next step, and developing courage.
Cleansing may be important to you just now.

Other Party
-The Fool-
he is focused (although the fool doesn’t really focus at all) on his freedom, yet may be feeling the urge to take a risk – afterall, you cannot feel free if you are holding back in a place of worry.
There is a naivety, and sense of folly and playfulness to this card also – this could allude to how he is trying to be, what he longs to feel, or it could suggest he really has no idea where he is going – the fool has no idea where he is in the same way that we know where we are, he is in the universe, and lost all at once, and he doesn’t care, he doesn’t worry himself with things like location, time, and commitment – he just wants to play.
This could be a nod towards rash decisions also, perhaps he is too quick to make a judgement of the situation, and would benefit from some foresight.

Common Ground: (both parties)

-8 of Wands-
this is the swift, bringing forth of change, of urgency, and the setting free of any potential for good or for bad (although nothing is good or bad until it is regarded as such by the perceiver).
This is showing me that you both desire a timely resolution, possibly to the point you are both acting on impulse – all fire, no air, all action, no communication.
This card can also indicate an imminent message specifically regarding relationships.

Outside Influences:

-6 of Swords-
one or both of you may be receiving advice to forget the relationship, and move on, but the moving on in this card is not that of a clean break, it is that of taking baggage with you.
This may be because it is not the time to lose the baggage, or it may be that the moving on is too hasty. It also suggests that one can rely on advice given at this time – it depicts a journey in which a woman and her child (vulnerability) are under the care of a man who rows their boat – so there are good people around both of you that you can rely on, and at least part of the current journey will not be taken alone.
What happens when you reach the shore is another reading.

Outcome:

-5 of Pentacles-
I always struggle a bit with this card, so forgive me if I make no sense!
I tend to see it as a letting go of material possessions, a whittling down to the necessities of life, even though it results in a feeling of being ‘cast out’ or separate from society in a way.
It can also imply ill health, but it also feels like a choice to me – choosing the lesser of two evils of some sort – see what I mean! I’m making no sense!
It is definitely with this card that my intuitions and brain let me down.
OK rant over, back to it.
I get a sense of rejection from it also, but it isn’t alarming, it’s as if one’s fate has been totally accepted, and the journey continues, on foot, even though you are wounded, and stripped of your comforts, still, you keep moving forward.
The injuries depicted could be to one’s financial status, rather than their body or heart – I’d say be careful not be taken advantage of financially.

Note: because my nemesis appeared in your outcome, I decided to draw another card to shed some light on it.

-The Sun-
Anyone will tell you how cool this card is to have anywhere in a reading, and if it wasn’t for the preceding outcome card, or the moon prior, I would say this is confirmation that all is well.
The sun can never really be negative, but it can be coloured by the other cards.
Now, this is going to sound like a cop-out, but I feel the sun here is saying no more than all will be revealed. The sun illuminates all that is hidden, and therefore, counteracts the moon.
It is the card of growth, so what you see illuminated in the dark corners by the sun’s rays, may not be sunshine and skittles, but you can bet your eye teeth it will vault your awareness and knowledge up several notches – we could even use as strong a word as ‘enlightenment’.
It is also the card of summer, so I feel you will have sufficient information by the end of summer in order to formulate your next step.

I wish you all the best with it Hera, you seem like a great lady.

Hope I may have helped in some way

posted August 24, 2011 05:27 PM            

There's an awful lot of interference in this Hera, on a psychic level I mean, I'm sat ere shuffling and have been for the past hour and I'm struggling to get through "chatter". This could be for a number of reasons..one is that too many people are wanting an opinion, another is that you could just be struggling to get focus on it yourself....which I know you've mentioned but it feels like its "other people" that's the problem.

I've basically asked what it is tat you can learn/gain from this person/experience. The first cards out are directly linked to the choice you are facing right now. I'd say that there probably isn't a right or wrong way to go with this but there are indications of needing to bring some sort of balance back into your home life. There is definitely a feeling of maybe having to wait before taking action.

I know it's not connected but have you just moved or thinking about moving? It's showing that there could be quite a lot of activity in that area, if you haven't recently moved then it's showing that around oct there could be changes.

I am getting that there are regrets on both sides over recent events with love, the cards are saying tat it was the soul(or psyche) that put out the call for action and connection. It's saying that although it feels like there is nothing but loss...there is something that still remains but the disappointment needs to be dealt with first.

The reading is actually quite a good one, it's showing that your perspective on things is pretty good, you're not being negative or delusional. I've got a strong desire to nurture but also an awareness of the body and what that is telling you...and I'm not talking about the medical side of things. This is giving a direct connection to being able to pick things up from the body about where you are at with yourself, there's also timing coming through with this that indicates you could be receivig info on this particular situation from now right into the middle of september.

There's a lot of realisation sowing up from now right through until early next year, it seems to be connected to a feeling of being defeated or somehow feeling or thinking that you can't win, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't. These realisations are linked to your ideals and your long term goals rather than your immediate future though.

Work looks fine, productive and it's saying even if you do have opposition or obstacles that you're own strength of will can help you to push passed anything.

There's indications in here of it being "almost time" where relationships are concerned and it is saying that before november...there should be some signs of serious commitment but at this stage I don't know if it's your sag or not.

posted August 24, 2011 05:40 PM            

He knows he needs to "man up" a bit, with the cards I've got I'd say that he is expectig further contact and maybe hoping that you can both at least be on better terms than what you are now.

I'd say that you both felt a spark with this.

The one thing I have noticed Hera is that up until now...there's been no signs of delusion or game playing...I dont know if what he said was the truth or not - but the cards are saying there has been no deception.

I've got that the relationship will only suffer if you both allow pride to get in the way which looks possible, I've got you both having an enormous amount of self discipline when it comes to expressing how you really feel. I've got you standing firm, even if it does cause you pain.

I've had no signs of this being "ended".

The reading is saying this phase is to be classed as "time out" not an ending.

The reading is saying that he really did feel like a real man, you made him feel more solid. He knows he has to put in more effort if he wants to get something out of this.

It's also saying that he has given you a bit of a burden...on a psychic level that is, this isn't always a bad thing but you may feel more responsible for him than you ought to.

posted August 24, 2011 06:05 PM            

The reading is showing that you are aware that you do want more out of life than you currently have. There is a desire for more emotional fulfilment. This reading is saying that you want a man that is strong and sure of himself as a man. He does need to be someone that is either ambitious or a leader.

I've got strong indications in here of you getting your subconscious emotions back under control before the end of septmeber, I can see order being brought back and you possibly writing things down that you're going to be processing from whatever it is that you're gaining from this experience.

As for what it is exactly that pulled you into all of this - I'd have to say subconscious stuff that was wanting to find a voice. And sat here thinking about it...his sun was on your moon/nep? I think he quite literally shone a light onto your instinctive nature. The moon is always more subsconscious than conscious and the repeated appearance in your reading of the hanged man (neptune) and the moon card along with the chariot (cancer)...it's all heavy water influenced cards.

The outcome to the reading is a little cryptic in some ways, I'm wondering if it's saying that what you need to finally accept is that you do have a choice...that seems to be significant somehow - you have a choice. The awareness of choice! You have no choice but to realise that you do have a choice - see I told you it was cryptic.

As a woman, you look to be feeling pretty secure in yourself. The timing on this is for now until mid/late november.

This whole thing, seems to be symbolic of you being made aware of how powerful your subconscious drives can be. The wisdom/knowledge is due to arrive within the next month.

No doubt once merc turns direct on the 26th it'll get a whole lot easier to process everything.

But I don't/didn't get the impression from the reading that it was "over" between you and the sag.

posted August 24, 2011 06:39 PM            

Okay, I will try my best with the feedback.

quote:

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You
– 9 of cups –
this tells me that you have many choices, and that there is an air of high energy around you connected to pleasure, play and self-expression.
These are likely aspects of your being just now, or in general, and could be attracting-factors in your personality.

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Could be. I do like the good things life can offer from time to time, hehe. And yes, I have made a promise to myself I should enjoy myself more often.

quote:

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OP (Other Party)
– The Lovers –
this tells me he has a pressing decision to make, but it is a decision made with the heart and not the head. The Lovers can also represent contracts, or commitments.
Perhaps he is over committed at the moment, as there is a sense of urgency with this card (and also the card that appears in your common ground position later on)

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quote:

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Personal Blocks:

You
-Queen of Wands-
this tells me that your independence may be intimidating.
You may be coming across very self-assured, and contained, and therefore, unreachable.
Firey temperament, and dominance are also associated with this card – is it possible your hand may be a little heavy on both yourself and the other party?
Could your fire be burning too fast, and heading for burn-out?

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quote:

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Other Party
-The Chariot-
he seems to be trying very hard to navigate and control in his life right now – this may be with his emotions, or just different factors of life that require a tight rein.
This also represents a journey into the unknown after letting go of the past – the first emotion associated with this in almost every human being with be trepidation, and/or fear – I feel this is his block, the fear to let-go, but also the loss of control, and therefore, autonomy.

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quote:

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Note: These two cards strike me as a power struggle – both are used to being in control of themselves and their lives, so it may be a case of the unstoppable force meet the immovable object. One is trying to direct, while the other is resisting or pulling in another direction.

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quote:

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The Past (travels along the bridge of the block card to the Emotions in the next position):

You
-The World-
here we have high achievement, and accomplishment, the realisation of wishes, and of one’s part in the greater whole.
This is probably nodding to your career.
As this leads to the block position, it may be possible that the emotional side of your person has been somewhat put on the backburner, in favour of academia and career accomplishment. This is not a negative thing in itself, but it may have resulted in a certain naivety toward relationships not connected to the workplace.

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quote:

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Other Party
-6 of Wands-
he seems to have had some battle to fight in the past, but has recently reached a place where he can reap the rewards of victory over adversity.
As this card has led to his block (the chariot), he may be reluctant to ‘put himself out there’ again so to speak, after his recent recovery from battle. The wounds may be healed, but the memory still fresh.
There is a saying someone related to this card that always stuck with me, it may or may not have relevance here: “How short a time the laurel crown stays green”—Dante (the man depicted in the card in my deck wears a laurel wreath on his head).

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quote:

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Emotions Regarding Each Other/the Situation:

You
-Wheel of Fortune-
this card is expressing a turning point, but one that is unpredictable to us. It also hints at the work of destiny. I see this as you feeling that the relationship has a fated quality to it.
You feel drawn to the other party perhaps in a way that you feel may be out of your control. It’s also suggesting your recognition that perhaps all the answers cannot be seen right now, and you may just have to wait for the wheel to turn to see where you guys land.

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quote:

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Other Party
-The Moon-
this card can be confusing and seem overly negative, but really it is just a warning – things may not be as they initially seem.
In the context, I believe it alludes to his withholding of communication, of his confusing stories that leave you feeling ‘in the dark’, or deceived. It could indeed be saying that he is being deceptive, but certainly secretive – he is hiding a part, or parts of himself.
Which leads me to another connotation of this card, it can also allude to mental illness – if you take a look at the illustration, there are dogs barking at the moon, this can suggest ‘madness’ – I don’t like that term, but it best fits the phrase.
Other feelings around this card are of anxiety (which is in itself a mental health condition, if severe enough), and illusion.
He may also be deceiving himself in some way, perhaps he really desires a close relationship, but is not emotionally available enough to actually be a healthy part of one.
Another point that may be relevant is the moon can also point to an over-active imagination – perhaps there has been some confabulation, which is not entirely untruthful, but definitely misleading.

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quote:

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Motivations/Intentions:

You
-Knight of Swords-
this tells me of your need to cut through the BS to the heart of the situation, to communicate and take appropriate action.
You are done waiting.
You are ready to start stripping down, sorting through , throwing away, and ready to stare the truth of the matter right in the soul.
You are striving for clear-sight, and are employing your reasoning powers to do so – but the strongest urge is to act, to remove, to cut out, to see what is left, to see the truth.

---

quote:

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Other Party
-King of Wands-
I see this as him trying to move towards warmth, to be seen to be all-encompassing, accepting and wise.
To provide safety.
It is also a move toward leadership and willpower.
I’m not sure how to interpret this tbh. He may be trying to rectify a past mistake by not being so easily swaying by his desires, or he may simply be making sure he is ‘on top of the game’, untouchable, playing the part, but superior to the participants – I’m not saying this is how he is, but fear can cause the need to be set apart in some way, and one way to do that is to be on top, be the boss, have total rulership. It doesn’t mean you are nasty, or unkind, you can still love with as much passion as anyone’s heart allows, but your authority is unquestionable, and you are not led – you lead, and expect to be followed.

---

quote:

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Thoughts:

You
-Ace of Wands-
you are focused on a new beginning, the birth of a new relationship, or indeed a family.
Also, you may be feeling very goal-oriented atm, you are mentally getting ready for the next step, and developing courage.
Cleansing may be important to you just now.

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quote:

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Other Party
-The Fool-
he is focused (although the fool doesn’t really focus at all) on his freedom, yet may be feeling the urge to take a risk – afterall, you cannot feel free if you are holding back in a place of worry.
There is a naivety, and sense of folly and playfulness to this card also – this could allude to how he is trying to be, what he longs to feel, or it could suggest he really has no idea where he is going – the fool has no idea where he is in the same way that we know where we are, he is in the universe, and lost all at once, and he doesn’t care, he doesn’t worry himself with things like location, time, and commitment – he just wants to play.
This could be a nod towards rash decisions also, perhaps he is too quick to make a judgement of the situation, and would benefit from some foresight.

---

quote:

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Common Ground: (both parties)

-8 of Wands-
this is the swift, bringing forth of change, of urgency, and the setting free of any potential for good or for bad (although nothing is good or bad until it is regarded as such by the perceiver).
This is showing me that you both desire a timely resolution, possibly to the point you are both acting on impulse – all fire, no air, all action, no communication.
This card can also indicate an imminent message specifically regarding relationships.

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quote:

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Outside Influences:

-6 of Swords-
one or both of you may be receiving advice to forget the relationship, and move on, but the moving on in this card is not that of a clean break, it is that of taking baggage with you.
This may be because it is not the time to lose the baggage, or it may be that the moving on is too hasty. It also suggests that one can rely on advice given at this time – it depicts a journey in which a woman and her child (vulnerability) are under the care of a man who rows their boat – so there are good people around both of you that you can rely on, and at least part of the current journey will not be taken alone.
What happens when you reach the shore is another reading.

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quote:

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-5 of Pentacles-
I always struggle a bit with this card, so forgive me if I make no sense!
I tend to see it as a letting go of material possessions, a whittling down to the necessities of life, even though it results in a feeling of being ‘cast out’ or separate from society in a way.
It can also imply ill health, but it also feels like a choice to me – choosing the lesser of two evils of some sort – see what I mean! I’m making no sense!
It is definitely with this card that my intuitions and brain let me down.
OK rant over, back to it.
I get a sense of rejection from it also, but it isn’t alarming, it’s as if one’s fate has been totally accepted, and the journey continues, on foot, even though you are wounded, and stripped of your comforts, still, you keep moving forward.
The injuries depicted could be to one’s financial status, rather than their body or heart – I’d say be careful not be taken advantage of financially.

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quote:

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-The Sun-
Anyone will tell you how cool this card is to have anywhere in a reading, and if it wasn’t for the preceding outcome card, or the moon prior, I would say this is confirmation that all is well.
The sun can never really be negative, but it can be coloured by the other cards.
Now, this is going to sound like a cop-out, but I feel the sun here is saying no more than all will be revealed. The sun illuminates all that is hidden, and therefore, counteracts the moon.
It is the card of growth, so what you see illuminated in the dark corners by the sun’s rays, may not be sunshine and skittles, but you can bet your eye teeth it will vault your awareness and knowledge up several notches – we could even use as strong a word as ‘enlightenment’.
It is also the card of summer, so I feel you will have sufficient information by the end of summer in order to formulate your next step.

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quote:

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I wish you all the best with it Hera, you seem like a great lady.

Hope I may have helped in some way

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posted August 24, 2011 07:17 PM            

I would like to take a bit longer to reply, because I'd like to ponder on what you wrote a little more and also because, to be honest, I am exhausted. It has been a draining day, emotionally speaking, with the therapy and all the analysis that's been going on lately. It's 2 am in here and I am finally feeling sleepy at this hour (I couldn't fall asleep before 3-4 am since this happened). I'm also feeling a bit unarticulate at the moment, so I would like to reply in the morning, with a rested brain and fresh made coffee.

Thank you, both, for two of the most awesome readings I ever received, in a time when I needed them so desperately! I'm ever grateful for your kindness! God bless you!!

posted August 25, 2011 01:41 AM            

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There's an awful lot of interference in this Hera, on a psychic level I mean, I'm sat ere shuffling and have been for the past hour and I'm struggling to get through "chatter". This could be for a number of reasons..one is that too many people are wanting an opinion, another is that you could just be struggling to get focus on it yourself....which I know you've mentioned but it feels like its "other people" that's the problem.

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I've basically asked what it is tat you can learn/gain from this person/experience. The first cards out are directly linked to the choice you are facing right now. I'd say that there probably isn't a right or wrong way to go with this but there are indications of needing to bring some sort of balance back into your home life. There is definitely a feeling of maybe having to wait before taking action.

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I know it's not connected but have you just moved or thinking about moving? It's showing that there could be quite a lot of activity in that area, if you haven't recently moved then it's showing that around oct there could be changes.

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I am getting that there are regrets on both sides over recent events with love, the cards are saying tat it was the soul(or psyche) that put out the call for action and connection. It's saying that although it feels like there is nothing but loss...there is something that still remains but the disappointment needs to be dealt with first.

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The reading is actually quite a good one, it's showing that your perspective on things is pretty good, you're not being negative or delusional. I've got a strong desire to nurture but also an awareness of the body and what that is telling you...and I'm not talking about the medical side of things. This is giving a direct connection to being able to pick things up from the body about where you are at with yourself, there's also timing coming through with this that indicates you could be receivig info on this particular situation from now right into the middle of september.

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There's a lot of realisation sowing up from now right through until early next year, it seems to be connected to a feeling of being defeated or somehow feeling or thinking that you can't win, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't. These realisations are linked to your ideals and your long term goals rather than your immediate future though.

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Work looks fine, productive and it's saying even if you do have opposition or obstacles that you're own strength of will can help you to push passed anything.

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There's indications in here of it being "almost time" where relationships are concerned and it is saying that before november...there should be some signs of serious commitment but at this stage I don't know if it's your sag or not.

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posted August 25, 2011 02:08 AM            

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The actual relationship - I have him thinking hard about the choices he has available to him right now, he seems to be thinking about things very deeply and he's certainly not taken any of this lightly. The reading is saying that he felt like you had brought meaning into his life, you were giving him a sense of purpose and it also says that he gave you some genuine emotion. The reading is saying that for the next 3/4 weeks it could be hard to know whether you are coming or going with this yet it's also saying that you/yourself are pretty grounded and stable.

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He knows he needs to "man up" a bit, with the cards I've got I'd say that he is expectig further contact and maybe hoping that you can both at least be on better terms than what you are now.

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The one thing I have noticed Hera is that up until now...there's been no signs of delusion or game playing...I dont know if what he said was the truth or not - but the cards are saying there has been no deception.

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I've got that the relationship will only suffer if you both allow pride to get in the way which looks possible, I've got you both having an enormous amount of self discipline when it comes to expressing how you really feel. I've got you standing firm, even if it does cause you pain.

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I've had no signs of this being "ended".

The reading is saying this phase is to be classed as "time out" not an ending.

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The reading is saying that he really did feel like a real man, you made him feel more solid. He knows he has to put in more effort if he wants to get something out of this.

It's also saying that he has given you a bit of a burden...on a psychic level that is, this isn't always a bad thing but you may feel more responsible for him than you ought to.

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posted August 25, 2011 02:36 AM            

Thank you! I've been sitting here in awe, reading what you both wrote over and over again... This has been such an amazing and enlightening experience and I feel there are no proper words to express my gratitude for your gestures...

posted August 25, 2011 03:06 AM            

yes, I don't see why the moon couldn't stand stand for mistrust, if that is how you interpret it here. That makes me think of cancer the crab in his shell - torn between reaching out for love, and protecting himself.

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Overall - There is a period of inaction, you are being pulled and shoved by deeper psych reasons, it's like your unconscious is turning your body into a puppet...there are loads of indicators that this has been demanded by your inner self, in this final spread (celtic cross) I have the moon, hanged man and judgement. So it is about the deeper and hidden side of life.

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The reading is showing that you are aware that you do want more out of life than you currently have. There is a desire for more emotional fulfilment. This reading is saying that you want a man that is strong and sure of himself as a man. He does need to be someone that is either ambitious or a leader.

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I've got strong indications in here of you getting your subconscious emotions back under control before the end of septmeber, I can see order being brought back and you possibly writing things down that you're going to be processing from whatever it is that you're gaining from this experience.

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As for what it is exactly that pulled you into all of this - I'd have to say subconscious stuff that was wanting to find a voice. And sat here thinking about it...his sun was on your moon/nep? I think he quite literally shone a light onto your instinctive nature. The moon is always more subsconscious than conscious and the repeated appearance in your reading of the hanged man (neptune) and the moon card along with the chariot (cancer)...it's all heavy water influenced cards.

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The outcome to the reading is a little cryptic in some ways, I'm wondering if it's saying that what you need to finally accept is that you do have a choice...that seems to be significant somehow - you have a choice. The awareness of choice! You have no choice but to realise that you do have a choice - see I told you it was cryptic.

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But I don't/didn't get the impression from the reading that it was "over" between you and the sag.

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posted August 25, 2011 03:17 PM            

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Voix, I asked that because the Moon falls under his emotions regarding me or the situation. And I think this is how he's feeling at the moment. Betrayed and offended by my lack of trust in him, in his honesty.

I am happy you also got something out of this. I realize it is weird like this, over the Internet, but I think you tuned in wonderfully. I can see every card making sense, being in the right spot, sort of speak. You're very good!

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Ahh yes! See, you are still teaching me, how wonderful!

Your view of it makes complete sense. He may well be sensing your caution, or suspicion.

You know, you've had a lot of talk and advice from a lot of people, and sourced some guidance from the cards and such, but I feel I should just mention something:

I have held back many times from communicating with someone, and allowing the unanswered questions to tear me apart, thinking I was doing it for them, and just giving them the space that I decided they must need. But really, most of the time I was just afraid of being the one to step closer, back down a little, and risk getting rejected.

I can't say if you relate to this or not, but the stalemate reminds me of those times I plumped for non-action, for the wrong reasons.

posted August 25, 2011 04:32 PM            

The time I spent in here and our discussions definitely illuminated me. Though I still don't know for sure what happened, I am closer to tunning in with myself. After all, I was the only one who actually witnessed this, who lived it, and I believe somewhere in the back of my head lies the answer. I feel I already know, but I needed to clear cut through the confusion to get there. I think I am getting closer.

I decided to take this break because I am still unclear within myself. I intend to write him because I feel I should be the one to take this step. I believe I overreacted when I called him a liar and, indeed, have offended him. I must settle this with myself first, so when I do write him, there will be no doubt left in my mind, otherwise that will simply transpire into my words and he will feel it. Yes, I also would like to give him the chance to cool off a bit, so I'd have a chance to reach the rational side of him, not his offended ego. But I do intend to contact him.

Today I've been thinking really hard about the possibility of him having a mental illness. The fact that my first boyfriend did, and their charts are so similar, is not something I would disregard. Of course, that doesn't mean they are identical. Not even twins, born minutes apart, in the same birth place, are identical, nor have the same path in life. But this is a possibility, and one I must seriously consider.

If it turns out that his illness is actually mental, not physical as he implied, how would I deal with that?! It is a frightening perspective, to be honest. But I stand by my attitude with my first boyfriend. His mental problems didn't make me reject him - his refusal to control them (despite getting medical treatment) DID. I wouldn't cast him away for a problem that is not actually his fault, nor is unfixable. But I also don't intend to offer myself as the sacrificial lamb and think MY love will cure him. My love could cure only one person, namely me. HIS love will have to do the trick for him, making him want to make changes and stick by them. People shouldn't change because their partner demands them to, they should change because they want to. And well, he was drawn into this experience too, perhaps for a similar reason as me. And I would like to give him the opportunity to discover this himself. I have faith in him, that he is self-aware enough, mature enough to do this. When I was with my first boyfriend, he was in his early 20s. Though phylosophically inclined, I suppose he lacked the foresight maturity brings to a person. At that time, he probably didn't see any benefit from taking on this journey. But now the Sag is 30, almost 31, perhaps he is ready?

You know why I think so? Because I saw genuine regret and remorse in him, on the thought that he might hurt me. First boyfriend warned me too, but I saw no inner conflict in him with that thought. He accepted the fact, it's like he was saying this is who he is, didn't feel the need to adjust to prevent it from happening. Current Sag is not like this.