posted September 09, 2011 11:29 AM            

If I am understanding your question properly, the biggest things you need to work on would be 12th house planets. You have Pluto there, although conjunct the ASC. Do you have a lot of strong power struggles that deeply affect you, but you hide them from others?

Pluto in the 12th could also indicate strong recuperative powers. Pluto forces us to look for meaning, to explore the depths of ourselves, and the 12th can represent the subconscious.

posted September 09, 2011 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Sand,

If I am understanding your question properly, the biggest things you need to work on would be 12th house planets. You have Pluto there, although conjunct the ASC. Do you have a lot of strong power struggles that deeply affect you, but you hide them from others?

Pluto in the 12th could also indicate strong recuperative powers. Pluto forces us to look for meaning, to explore the depths of ourselves, and the 12th can represent the subconscious.

I will explain a bit better later on. You have an interesting chart. I'll take a better look after work and go over more important things (what you need to work on) when I'm a bit more awake and focused.

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power struggles? with whom? that would only be possible with family coz while i don't want to hurt them i also won't do anything against my will. (guess i could learn a thing or 2 from mutables or libras lol i dunno) most i'd say i will struggle with openly but i really try not to use pluto at all. only in retaliation i guess does it ever come out.

posted September 10, 2011 12:56 AM            

Pluto conjunct the ASC will add intensity to the personality and the way we come across to other people. Everyone I know with either Scorpio ASC or/and Pluto conj. the ASC all have penetrating gaze; one that seems to look straight through your soul lol. Most of them have something in their eyes that fascinates me, and intensity that I can't pin point.

Julia and Derek Parker give an interpretation of Pluto conjunct the ASC from the 12th house(I used these guys as a reference in a different thread, they are excellent astrologers in my opinion): "The individual may be very secretive with smoldering intensity, so that his or her energies may in fact stagnate. This is most likely to occur if Pluto is negatively aspected by the Sun, Moon, or ruling planet(which I see it is square your Moon) Sometimes much satisfaction can be derived from research and working alone-in libraries or with complicated computer programs, for instance."
I got this from their book entitled, Parker's Astrology: The Definitive Guide to Using Astrology in Every Aspect of Your Life.

posted September 10, 2011 04:56 AM            

i'm a bit on the secretive side lol but i thought all scorp risings were. should i be less?

what about this though?

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If Pluto is within 10° of the ascendant it is conjunct the ascendant, and much of the foregoing is even more strongly emphasized. If Pluto is in the twelfth house AND within 4° or 5° of the ascendant, then it is said to be on the "dark side" of the first house, and it influence will be felt in the first as well as in the twelfth house. The closer a twelfth house Pluto is to the ascendant, the more it will be interpreted as though it were in the first house; when less than 3° from the ascendant, a twelfth house Pluto expresses itself primarily—and eventually entirely—in the first house.

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Pluto conjunct the ASC will add intensity to the personality and the way we come across to other people. Everyone I know with either Scorpio ASC or/and Pluto conj. the ASC all have penetrating gaze; one that seems to look straight through your soul lol. Most of them have something in their eyes that fascinates me, and intensity that I can't pin point.

hmm.. not really sure what people see. i get mixed reactions. some scorpio stereotypes do apply.

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"The individual may be very secretive with smoldering intensity, so that his or her energies may in fact stagnate. This is most likely to occur if Pluto is negatively aspected by the Sun, Moon, or ruling planet(which I see it is square your Moon) Sometimes much satisfaction can be derived from research and working alone-in libraries or with complicated computer programs, for instance."

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interesting about the stagnation. i can get into ruts. always thought it was the fixedness of my planets too. i probably do enjoy being left alone with books. hate computers lol but definitely love libraries.

i found this interesting though. i've often mentioned not having any dreams or difficulty remembering them like i forget them instantly when i wake up. i could see it in the 12th. it's just that some of the readings point to abuse sexual or other in childhood and i had an amazing one IMO.

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Common characteristics of Pluto in the twelfth house include: being deeply private, not what they seem as interpreted in other’s eyes, deeply sensitive; taking things to heart; being amazingly shy at a core level; being ultra-emotional; although you may not know it, they can be extremely giving in a silent way; having many deep and unresolved fears, and aura of dreaminess, and powerful dreams or never any dreams because of exhaustion; being naturally psychic. By Jeff Green

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posted September 12, 2011 03:28 PM            

Your Sun and Venus are in Taurus so it'll add some practicality but you may struggle with the two sides of your personality.
I will take a better look at your chart some time today and get a bit more into it. Try and help you find what you need to work on most in your chart.

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i see you're a double virgo btw, happy solar return month!

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