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Soothsayer
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posted September 09, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been working on interpreting her chart but I could really use a pair of fresh and unbiased eyes.

If anyone could offer some insight that would be great. I have been discussing her chart with her piece by piece, through email, but I'm sure there are things that I've missed or overlooked (this is where I'm faulty when interpreting the charts of loved ones--have difficulty noticing the negatives) so if any of you are able to help I can just send her the link to this thread.

Thanks in advance

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bellesoul
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posted September 09, 2011 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bellesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She looks like she has a lot of easy aspects and few harsh ones (only skimming the chart pic; haven't gone thru the aspects individually)

A packed 6th house, with planets all in Scorp! Plus most of her planets etc are in the earth element. Is she very down to earth (Moon and Asc too) but has an inner emotional nature?

Uranus and Neptune in the 9th house... Does she have very unique, interesting and wacky ideals/ visions? Are you both very mentally compatible; like are you attracted to her mind and admire her individuality?

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posted September 09, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bellesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the planets in cap, could bring discipline and attention to her beliefs it could also make her more traditional/ conventional.

Her Merc is sextile lots of planets; this looks promising is communication easy for her? Merc conjunct Pluto, my bf has this and he is on the ball mentally; it makes his mind very sharp, intelligent and also open to deep and profound dimensions of thought; which i admire in a man coz lots of men don't generally express their thoughts let alone 'deep' thoughts; i think it makes their communication open to deep things that lots of ppl could be uncomfortable expressing.

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posted September 10, 2011 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bellesoul:
She looks like she has a lot of easy aspects and few harsh ones (only skimming the chart pic; haven't gone thru the aspects individually)

A packed 6th house, with planets all in Scorp! Plus most of her planets etc are in the earth element. Is she very down to earth (Moon and Asc too) but has an inner emotional nature?

Uranus and Neptune in the 9th house... Does she have very unique, interesting and wacky ideals/ visions? Are you both very mentally compatible; like are you attracted to her mind and admire her individuality?


For the most part, yes, she can be quite down to earth but her emotions are very apparent to everyone and she expresses them quite well. Anyone who doesn't know her well would be surprised to know she has any Taurus, because her Scorpio stellium (with two of the planets, Mercury and Pluto, opposing the Moon and Ascendant)tends to over power her entire personality. She is quite complex actually.
She has a magnetic personality that can be rather intense when you first meet her thatmight throw others off at first but pretty well everyone grows to love her.
I think with all those planets opposing her Ascendant it makes a lot of sense, she does have a lot of focus on relationships (Mercury/Pluto conjunct ASC?) and I don't think she can cope well without being with someone. She can't stand to be alone, even not just in the sense of not having a boyfriend, she hates being alone period.
She has a lot of mental and physical intensity and she needs to find somewhere to project that energy or else she literally looks like she's about to explode lol.
She is more of a sex fiend than most guys I know (although she is not trampy whatsoever, just high sex drive).
Her expression is extremely intense, but her emotional nature is surprisingly quite stable and grounded.
She's a typical Taurus in the sense that she loves pleasure of all kinds and is very creative. She completely embodies some of the characteristics governed by Venus. She is extremely artistic, can draw very well and has extremely beautiful and neat handwriting. She is great at hair, makeup, and nails. She loves movies and music. And LOVES food. What's more Taurus than that? lol
But she isalso completely obsessive and passionate about all her interests and desires, which I believe stems from Scorpio.

As for Uranus and Neptune in the 9th. Yes! What you said actually made me laugh...I remember when we were younger she would come up with these ridiculous ideas for things we should do and I'd go along with it thinking it was funny until I realized she was seriously and truly believed we would be able to do whatever she had said without somebody getting extremely hurt lmao.

Yes we are very mental compatible. She moved away not too long ago so we stay in contact through email and our emails are usually pages and pages long. Most people would thnk it was stupid and boring but for some reason, we are just attracted to the way we thnk and speak I guess.

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posted September 10, 2011 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bellesoul:
Although the planets in cap, could bring discipline and attention to her beliefs it could also make her more traditional/ conventional.

Her Merc is sextile lots of planets; this looks promising is communication easy for her? Merc conjunct Pluto, my bf has this and he is on the ball mentally; it makes his mind very sharp, intelligent and also open to deep and profound dimensions of thought; which i admire in a man coz lots of men don't generally express their thoughts let alone 'deep' thoughts; i think it makes their communication open to deep things that lots of ppl could be uncomfortable expressing.


Yes, yes, and Yes. She is really goofy and humorous, and although a little hyper, she's very witty and capable of making everyone laugh. She's always got something to say, and it usually catches the interest of anyone.
She has deep and intense though processes, I think, she communicates in a very Plutonian way. This suits my turn of mind excellently.
Our Mercury's are sextile, we both have a Mercury/Pluto aspect although mine is sextile. My Mercury is trine Uranus/Neptune and hers is sextile.
My Pluto is in the third house so this also meshes well with her Scorpion mind.

In most other ways we are quite different, but our mental compatibility helps create intriguing and fascinating conversation and company at all times.

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posted September 12, 2011 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 14, 2011 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone else offer insight to this chart? I'm really curious what someone could make of her sixth house, and of course anything else that stands out..

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posted September 18, 2011 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I sound like a broken record, but, BUMP

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posted September 18, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is a super 6th house person

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posted September 18, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is a very open person, emotionally. She is kind and warm and supportive.
Is this true?

She wears her heart on her sleeve.

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posted September 18, 2011 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her chart is really interesting. I am doing a lot of charts,now, so will come back when I can.
Let me ask you this. Why don't you ask me some questions,so I can narrow it down.I do not want to do a whole chart for her,as she isn't here.
I could look at selected questions, though.

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posted September 18, 2011 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's an introvert. Not only because of all this Scorpio stellium under the horizon (1-7 axis) but also because of the Moon on her ASC opposing this stellium.
She's quietly intense. (I know the type and love these people. I have Moon in Taurus too and as a Saggie love Taurus ppl. Can I borrow your friend? lol)
She's incredibly stable and faithful as a friend. And very possessive of her friends. If you attack any of her friends, you become her enemy too.

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posted September 18, 2011 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is she a man-magnet? With Venus AND Jup in her 5th she's either into kids a lot or into affairs a lot! Venus rules her ASC and her chart and it's in her 5th the house of infatuation. Of course she prefers deeper and more intense emotions but this Jup-Venus combo in the 5th may show that she attracts more light-hearted love affairs.

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posted September 18, 2011 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for explaining why and how you came to your conclusions, Anon.
That helps those of us who want to learn

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posted September 18, 2011 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder about this Saturn in a critical degree in her Sat-ruled 10th house! What does she do? Sounds like a position of responsibility and high status is very likely with this configuration. I can think of secret services or the army. A rather male-dominated place of work.

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posted September 18, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anon
The fact that she has a full 9th house.Would that make her NOT introverted? What do you think?

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posted September 18, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, thanks for your kind words.
I usually am explaining things; it's just that sometimes I'm a scatter-brain and multitasking is not doing me any good either!
I'm typing fast and never edit these posts. I'm not the slow-going type. Not long stretches available although I know it seems like I'm on here forever, I'm not. I have a few windows open and work on a paper at the same time (lol). Thanks again for the kindness.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you for explaining why and how you came to your conclusions, Anon.
That helps those of us who want to learn

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posted September 18, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I thought of that too but with all her personal planets under the radar, me thinks not so. Mind you, no one is 100% introvert or 100% extrovert; we all all a (variable) mix of both.

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Anon
The fact that she has a full 9th house.Would that make her NOT introverted? What do you think?

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posted September 18, 2011 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, soothie, I want to meet your friend: my Moon is just about 2 degrees away from hers!!

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posted September 19, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 19, 2011 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
She is a very open person, emotionally. She is kind and warm and supportive.
Is this true?

She wears her heart on her sleeve.


Yes, she is very comfortable with her emotions and expresses them well. She says all the time that she just lets everything out immediately so that she doesn't feel like she has anything to prove later on down the line. She acts like her normal, funny, goofy, eccentric personality (can you see any eccentricity in her chart? I was surprised to see such little Uranus when I first did her chart to be honest) around everyone to basically just cut through through any falsehoods immediately. Some times she comes across a bit too strongly and make people uneasy at times.
This basically answers a few questions here I think. I think her true nature is very much Taurus, she's luxurious, artistic, loves food and is beautiful lol quite the combination...but all that Scorpio takes full charge and her intense, passionate side comes out first thing. She's definitely an "all or nothing" kind of girl. There's nothing that she can keep from everyone and she expects you to share just as much with her. Sometimes if you even just forget to tell her something she considers it a disloyalty almost. Usually she gets over it though.
I know usually you'd look at a chart with so many lower planets and assume introversion and shyness but no she isn't at all. All her planets at the opposite side of her 1st house with two of them conjunct the DC, in my opinion, explains her constant need for relationships, and her habit of finding her self will and comfort through partners. She needs to be with someone. This is where her and I differ; I always say that a relationship is worthless if you do not actually love the person and want to be with them. I think it is a waste of time to go out looking for someone you dont care for than to just wait and be with someone you love when you find them. She constantly needs that companion in order to feel safety and comfort. I guess we could learn something from each other.

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posted September 20, 2011 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Her chart is really interesting. I am doing a lot of charts,now, so will come back when I can.
Let me ask you this. Why don't you ask me some questions,so I can narrow it down.I do not want to do a whole chart for her,as she isn't here.
I could look at selected questions, though.

Can you see any indications of difficult childhood? Primarily with the mother...I guess her Moon opposite her Mercury/Pluto could show that. Emotional power struggles between her and her mom, mean hurtful words spoken by mother that destroyed her emotional world? To me this aspect(s) correlates well with these issues. What do you think?

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posted September 20, 2011 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
She's an introvert. Not only because of all this Scorpio stellium under the horizon (1-7 axis) but also because of the Moon on her ASC opposing this stellium.
She's quietly intense. (I know the type and love these people. I have Moon in Taurus too and as a Saggie love Taurus ppl. Can I borrow your friend? lol)
She's incredibly stable and faithful as a friend. And very possessive of her friends. If you attack any of her friends, you become her enemy too.

Actually she is outwardly intense. Her Taurus ASC/Moon is really her true nature. If her and I are hanging out alone (so basically when she is truly comfortable and relaxed) she is calm, stable and settled. She is extremely luxurious; she loves art and is very creatively inclinded, loves music, spends time doing her makeup and nails, plus she LOVES food and has the obsessive need to eat if she's not distracted (obviously a Taurean feature, hah.). Talking alone with her she seems stable, practical and logical. She's relentless and will keep to anyone thing for a long time. But not a lot of people get to see that side of her. I'm not sure if it's just because of the hardships she's suffered lately but she's just put a huge emphasis on sex and the way she is viewed by men. All of the positive things Pluto/Scorpio has done for her (for example; her sound, detective like mind, ability to transform through each situation, her emotional strength and healing power) gets turned into an obsession with sex, popularity and power. I think she is just in the process of learning how to "own" her Pluto. And she has a lot of it so if not handled well it's going to be tough I would think. I'm hoping with this interpretation it can help her understand why this is such a struggle for her and making learn how to constructively and positively manifest it in the right area.

Like I said in my previous post, to Ami, she had a lot of issue with her mother and I think the incessant need to be with somebody and being spoiled and loved stemmed from those childhood issues where she was denied that sort of affection.

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posted September 20, 2011 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Is she a man-magnet? With Venus AND Jup in her 5th she's either into kids a lot or into affairs a lot! Venus rules her ASC and her chart and it's in her 5th the house of infatuation. Of course she prefers deeper and more intense emotions but this Jup-Venus combo in the 5th may show that she attracts more light-hearted love affairs.

So, so true. Wow. She is extremely fun and wants to be having fun all the time. Loves to socialize and LOVES to show off. She's extremely charismatic and charming and knows how to put everyone in stitches from her profound humor.

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Of course she prefers deeper and more intense emotions but this Jup-Venus combo in the 5th may show that she attracts more light-hearted love affairs.

That is exactly right! She longs to be in a deep, connected relationship. One of which where she can transcend through her partner. But she directs a lot of her energies in the wrong direction and goes for the wrong people that she only ever receives superficial partnership. This is why she ends up with different guys, she cannot find what she is looking for and usually she ends up with the complete ***hole.
The relationship she is in now seems to be alright. Better than she's ever had but I don't think she is completely happy and I don't like that--she deserves to be truly happy and in love.
Her last relationship was abusive and depressing. With this guy she shares a beautiful 3 year old daughter, so I guess something wonderful did come of it


Oh and yes she is definitely a man magnet. She is charming, funny, and gorgeous. Unfortunately a bit sly though.
She hasn't always been the most faithful either. But we all make mistakes and she's becoming such a wonderful person now.

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posted September 20, 2011 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
I wonder about this Saturn in a critical degree in her Sat-ruled 10th house! What does she do? Sounds like a position of responsibility and high status is very likely with this configuration. I can think of secret services or the army. A rather male-dominated place of work.

I can't say for sure if this is accurate, but I definitely cannot rule it out. Although she is a girly girl and wants to be a beautician so I can't see that working. She is only 20 years old, had a child at 17 so she hasn't had her career started yet. Slight delay in that area although she is still so young and has every opportunity to if when she's ready.

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