posted September 17, 2011 01:48 PM            

I know you prefer equal housesystem, but for some reason that I do not understand myself when applying houserulerships the Placidian system seems to be more accurate. Or it is just me who resonates mroe with it I do not know. Could you put up your chart with Placidus.

On a more serious note: you shouldn´t base your decisions or perspectives solely on astrology (it may descript everything in life, but chances are that we might still miss important pieces of it, and thus no interpretation will be flawless). And if you do not feel well, you should take it serious, no matter what the astrology sais, or does not say.
And maybe ask yourself why you feel like there possibly might be a problem.
Is it that you need to develop a perspective and perception on yourself, when other people used to tell you what you should think or what was true?

I have that sometimes with my mom, that I am relying too much on her perception on things instead on my own and then if they clash (and they sometimes do. lol), I started thinking that I might see things the wrong way?

By now I realized that I am not in the wrong, and neither is she. We just see different bits of truth, or maybe even looking at the same bit, we might see it from a different angle, that is all.

But it was kinda hard to develop faith in my own perceptions and trust them, after having depended on her for that for so long.
It went even so far, that when she mentioned I was looking pale, I started feeling sick and dizzy, though I was perfectly well minutes before. But when she thought something was wrong with me, it had to be the truth, right?

Anyway I do not want to bore you with my own stuff, and to me this slight confusion about: do I think that? or do I let others think me?
is clearly depicted in pisces intercepted in my 3rd house conjunct my ASC.

posted September 17, 2011 03:22 PM            

Ruler of 3rd house conjuncting ASC looks pretty stable. Ruler of the 8th house and 8th house planets look harmonious as well.

The ruler of 4th and 5th house squaring eacch other indicate that any kind of problem might probably be more related to emotional issues than mental problems, especially in relation to your mother, father or children.

Probably it would make sense to check the midpoints as well, especially Mercury/Neptune, maybe also Mercury / Uranus. But I am not an expert in medical astrology.

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posted September 18, 2011 06:17 AM            

In Cosmobiology (they work extensively with midpoints) there are direct midpoints (conjunction and opposition) and indirect ones (square, semisquare, sesisquare).
They say they are of equal value, no matter if semisquare or conjunction.

Personally I differentiate bewteen them though; Direct midpoints will always be stronger, maybe they are even the only ones who really work (not sure aobut that yet). Robert Hand wrote in his book on horoscopesymbols that the direct midpoints have as much effect than major aspects!

The orb for midpoints is 1°-1,5°; Robert Hand writes that 1,5° is for direct midpoints, 1° for indirect ones. of course the closer the midpoint, the more significant it will be.

For example:
The tightest midpoint picture in my chart is:

Moon= Mercury/Pluto (square) orb: 0°03

Interestingly the Mercury/Pluto doesn`t really pop up elsewhere in my chart I think.

But it definitely describes my almost compulsive urge for investigating (astrological principles) quite well.

Cafe astrology has this interpretation:
It is likely that you are involved in psychology, anthropology, history, or genealogy. You like to look beneath the surface of things, and you may also have an interest in mystery novels. You can be very successful in any area that requires curiosity and the desire to uncover secrets.

And since Mercury conjuncts Sun, there is this midpoint picture as well.
Moon= Sun/Pluto (orb: 0°24)

Periodically you feel compulsively drawn to research or investigate something, or possibly just to do something that drives you from deep within yourself. While many of your friends and acquaintances seem content to live day to day without going to extremes, you, on the other hand, have periods when you are compulsively driven from within. You have a complex emotional nature that makes it difficult for others to completely understand you, or to even understand yourself.

I find that describes me really well, at least a side of me.

Personally I am convinced conjunctions and oppositions to midpoints work, and am fairly certaint that squares probably do, too.
I am still hesitant about semisquares and sesisquares; feels like it is watering down the picture too much.

you know, if you have a midpoint on 10 Scorpio, then that only means that is the near midpoint; but on the other side on the zodiac there of course will be the farther midpoint (on a circle two points / planets always have two midpoints, which are always opposite each other).

So the other, farther, midpoint would be on 10 Taurus - so in fact we have a midpoint axis.
the midpoint of this midpoint axis would of course be 10 Aquarius or 10 Leo,w hich are squaring the original midpoint axis.
I see it as a secondary midpoint.
But the semisquare and sesisquare mean would mean that we create a midpoint of the primary / direct midpoint 10 Scorpio and the secondary/ indirect (square) midpoint on 10 Leo (or Aquarius) - so we are getting a tertiary midpoint, I think.
And I was thinking that with each dividing we are actually watering down the strength of the picture.
That is why I focus very much on conjunction / opposition to midpoints, cause tzhey are true / pure midPOINTS, and keep an eye on the squares, as they are the "escape-route" for the axis, the middle ground of the midpoint-axis.

Just wanted to say that so you can categorize the meaning of your own midpoints.

posted September 18, 2011 06:58 AM            

you have these midpoint pictures:

Moon =
Mercury / Uranus (conjunction 0.43)
mercury / Neptune (semisquare 0.25)
Pluto/MC (semisquare 0.15)

Pluto=
Mercury/Uranus (semisquare 0.44)
Mercury/Neptune (conjunction 1.02)
Venus/ASC (conjunction 1.00)

MC=
Mercury/Neptune (conjunction 1.23)

As you can see your Pluto-MC-conjunction in Leo falls on the direct midpoint of Mercury/Neptune - so I think this is the crucial connection here.

Since your Pluto-MC-conjunction is semisquare your Moon, Moon becomes part of this piccture as well, though only through semisquare / sesisquare, which I think is a weaker link, but it is there.

What it does I think is creating an interconnection between the energies of Pluto-MC-Moon-Mercury-Neptune.

Neither of these planets rule the 3rd house though.

Anyway, the MC is often seen as a symbol of the mother and Moon of course relates to the mother as well, and Pluto aspecting both might in some cases be interpreted as "the alldevouring mother". It could be a superprotective mother in good cases or the harsh opposite, the destructive mother (I made you and I can break you as easily). It´s a super posessive thing there.
Especially with Moon in its own sign, Cancer! And in 8th house which is another Moon/Pluto-vibe.

It does not always have to be that way; for example I have Pluto on MC as well, and I experienced my mother as the protective one (in my case Pluto has a wide trine to Moon though, maybe that made it easier, though it is not a strong aspect with 8 degree orb).

But what usually happens is that the child is extremely dependent on the mother or a maternal figure / symbol in existential ways. She is dependent on the mother for pure survival and the mother seems to use and sometimes misuse that for validating herself (she is just as dependent btw).
Moon/Pluto often brings that feeling of being unable to exist on their own, that mother`s disapproval means "death", sometimes in literal terms. Though that would be a very drastic manifestation of this aspect.
And btw it does not have to be like that in reality, but it is the perception of the child, and that is what forms their experience of the world. An uncertain place where you have to earn the right to exist by strict obedience, sometimes even having to telepathically feel what is being demanded, because it is never really said, but if it is not delivered, consequences (loss of mother`s love and attention, sometimes downright cruel emotional punishment / abandonment, implanting of feelings of guilt: I am doing everything for you, and you give me nothing, but without me you would not even exist - and unsaid: and do not have the right to exist, until I say you do and you have to deserve this right, it is not given freely).

Most of these things are happening under the surface though.
And sometimes, like in my case, it takes a different route, in that the mother is wildly protective, but distrusting the outer world, which creates a very strong bond within the family, but with clear boundaries and even walls to any kind of "intruder" - if push comes to shove, you only can rely on your family-sort of thing. Actually my mom did say that once or twice. lol

both ways will ensure a very strong mother-child bond that is hard to break and that is usually detrimental to both. The process of growing up for the child (and for the mother), the necessary severing the exclusive tie with the mother or family, is extremely difficult to accomplish and usually comes with feelings of guilt and fear (of abandonment, which might result in "death").

The child fears it cannot exist on her own, and the mother fears either the loss of power over the child, or if love is the driving urge (which it of course can also be, and should be), then she might fear herself that the child cannot make it on their own, without mother`s assistance, and usually these fears are transferred to the child as well.

Anyway in your case now, it is so doubly hard because of the interconnection between moon and Pluto, Pluto on MC, Moon aspecting MC and Moon in Cancer in 8th house.

And all of that is the focal point of the Mercury/neptune-midpoint.

I really do not think it relates to mental issues here, other than letting a maternal figure, authorities / moral instances, or even your own feelings of guilt (subjective; it does NOT mean you are guilty of anything, but you might be prone to feeling as if) dictate your way of thinking. Almost like if you let others dictate your perceptions for you, tell you what you see and what is real, then you might somehow wash yourself off of any kind of guilt.

but I think this Mercury/neptune-mp also can be a formidable asset because of being able to "hear the grass grow". Creative, sensitive; you are a psychic, and I think that midpoint is one way to see it in your chart.

In a way the need to listen very closely and rely on other senses than the five known ones to survive emotionally during your childhood may also opened the channel to psychic awareness, because you needed it in existential ways.

Now you can profit from it. And neptune in 12th house and Mercury in 8th house of cours shows just how deep these psychic spider senses go.

Anyway on the midpoint I found these interpretations:

Moon = mercury / Uranus
You have quick reflexes, which gives you talent in some sports, playing a musical instrument, or any other activity that requires quickness and agility. You are very clever and have a good sense of humor. You pick up on things that other people miss. You function well in a fast-paced environment but can become nervous and high-strung from too much stress.

Moon=Mercury/Neptune
You have good imagination and intuition. You have a talent for understanding, and perhaps also producing, poetry and fictional literature. You work well with children, and also have a strong inclination to become involved in music and the arts.

Pluto = Mercury/Uranus
You are a very creative and intense thinker. You find most other people to be much too slow, shallow, and weak-willed for your bold and daring ideas. You do well in an environment that allows you to invent, research, analyze, and learn at your own pace.

[b]Pluto=Mercury/Neptune
You understand literature, especially fiction and poetry. You have a natural intuitive sense of how symbols, religious ideals, and the visions and dreams of people affect them. You can be successful in a field that involves poetry, literature, depth psychology, mysticism, or music. You enjoy literature and music that are imaginative and intense, perhaps mysterious or mystical.

Alternatively:

Mercury/Neptune-midpoint
Principle: The imagination. The ability to communicate in a subtle way and to imply much with one's words. Confused thinking, and the possibility of being misunderstood, either because one is vague, or because others lack the sensitivity to pick up on what one is saying. Clairvoyance. Messages from beyond. Channeling.

Process: To dissolve the boundaries that limit communication. To develop a finer and finer sensitivity to picking up messages from the spiritual realms and from one's own intuition. The ability to see beyond any and all vehicles of communication into the deepest essence of what is really being communicated.

triggered by:

Moon: A receptiveness to subtle communcations. The emotional need to fantasize, and ideally to share one's fantasies with others. A person highly impressionable to idealistic ideas.

Pluto: One is relentlessly pursued by thoughts coming from the spiritual realms, and which need to be listened to and heeded – or if they are not, stress will be the result. A tremendous ability to read between the lines when one hears what others have to say. An exceptionally psychic person.

Midheaven: The urge to share uplifting ideas with the world. Enhancing and developing one's positive psychic connection with others is one's life's work.
http://john-sandbach.blogspot.com/2010/11/planets-activating-mercuryneptune.html

posted September 18, 2011 07:05 AM            

Mercury/Uranus

Principle: Independent thinking. Strange ideas. A progressive mind. Thinking outside the box and experimenting with ideas. Sudden communication that can catch people off guard. The ability to say things in an unique or unusual way. A spasmodic scattering of energies that can create upset and/or cause failure due to not putting enough energy into any one thing.

Process: The liberating of one's thoughts from unnecessarily limiting biases. Allowing one's mind to find its own individualized way of thinking and communicating. To explore new modes of sharing information and to free the mind so that it can perceive ideas in new ways and in new relationships to each other.

Moon: An emotional need for open communication. Quickly and/or abruptly changing moods.

Pluto: To be very intent on particular ideas which often involve research or experimentation. Mental intensity which could potentially result in nervous difficulties.

Venus/ASC-midpoint
Principle: A person with a loving, easy-going personality. The ability to share with others and to put them at ease. Contentment with oneself – which negatively might express as laziness and selfishness.

Process: Learning to love oneself and to project that love into the world.

Pluto: To compel other people to admire and/or be attracted to you, and to feel a sense of power coming from that. The driving need to transmute selfish self love into healthy self love.

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posted September 18, 2011 09:57 AM            

I cast it off for fear of it.The 7th house can cast things off.
OH--please look up these asteroids for me in your chart Child. Echo, Narcissus, Sappho. I will think of others as we go on,too.

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posted September 18, 2011 10:01 AM            

Anyway, I have Psyche in the 7th.I cast off my soul,too, my deepest soul, to the outside.

posted September 18, 2011 10:39 AM            

Also, do you have other asteroids conjunct important things.
If so, do a chart with those.Maybe put it on a different thread with Ceri's Asteroids as the title.

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