posted September 28, 2011 01:44 AM            

Anyway, I was looking at your SR, and in comparision with the natal you have.

Mercury= Moon/Mars
(emotionally heated arguments)

and

Mercury= ASC/Mars
(applying considerable personal force to communication, asserting oneselves in communication; heated arguments)

posted September 28, 2011 11:16 AM            

Maybe you can email Randall or Lexx about the thread. I think they may be able to find it.

posted September 28, 2011 02:22 PM            

Would u put that info up with an explanation pls?

posted September 28, 2011 07:16 PM            

Well I guess you're right, belle, time to start fresh.

posted September 29, 2011 01:23 AM            

that is EXACTLY what I mean (and hope), though of course it is sad that some information will be lost.
Actually I just lost my old labtop two weeks ago, and THAT really hurt because there was a compilation of dreams, old emails, (workrelated things), poems and stories on there I have written. And of course very much what I had worked out on astrology, including midpoints.

seems I am meant to start from scratch again.

But like you I believe this is for a reason.

What is important of the past is being written inside of me anyway, and what I cannot recall, maybe was not that important to begin with. Or just a rough first draft.

posted September 30, 2011 09:19 PM            

I have built an event chart for one of the most pivotal points in my life and was curious if you'd take a look at them and take a guess at what the event was?

If you are interested, I will post, as you asked before, planetary aspects to ASC/MC midpoint in the event chart alone. Then I will add the even midpoint aspects to my personal planets/angles.

posted October 01, 2011 05:30 AM            

Delineation of midpoint-pictures
-----------------------------------
1. Interprete the two planets on the right side, as if they were in conjunction (as the midpoint is where these energies merge, and that is the definition of a conjunction as well).

The slow moving planet always "colours" the faster moving one.
If you have something like Mercury/Saturn (this sign: / always represents a midpoint), it means that Saturn colours Mercury; a keyword would be slow, pessimistic, thorough, sober etc. (Saturn) way of thinking,c ommunicating, talking (Mercury)

So here we have a sober, analytical, thorough,s ometimes controlled thinking and communicating. It will be a person who is not going to talk too much or too frivolous I think, but will have strong analytical and systematic thinking.

Then you look at the planet triggering the midpoint (on the left side); this is the planet that is being described by the midpoint picture.

If it is Sun we know that the expression of this personality will be coloured by a rather controlled, even shy attitude and probably not talking all too much and having a real aversion against smalltalk.

When we have personal planets on the left side this is very simple.

It gets more difficult when the slow moving ones are on the left side, cause Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto seem to relate more to "verbs", they do something to the planet they touch, slowing them down, excite them, inspire them, intensify them.

So in this case you also have delineated the right side as I said:

For example:
the Venus/Mars midpoint - it is like your person Venus-Mars conjunction in your natal chart, indicating something about your passion and creativity and also about how you express yourself in sexual relationships (Mars heats up the sensuality and relating urge of Venus - that is where the passion comes from).

If you have Saturn triggering this midpoint, Saturn as the slow moving planet colours the midpoint. In this case there will be a control of passions, taking it too serious to waste ones time with one night stands.

posted October 01, 2011 05:43 AM            

yes, of course.

But please give me these informations:

* only conjunctions, oppositions, squares, sesisquares and semisquares

* orb: 1,5° - 2°, but mark these which are under 1°

* aspects to single planets as well as midpoints (but only the mentioned aspects and orbs; EVEN with single planets; so no trines or semisextiles; they do not make things happen)

Write down the planets and midpoints which aspect (and all of them that fit the rules I mentioned above; do not make a selection; we tend to select these out we do not want to see there and concentrate on the welcome ones, and then the picture gets distorted):

ASC/MC (midpoint)
AP (Ariespoint: 00° cardinal)
Sun
Moon
ASC
MC
Vertex

Then check which natal planets and midpoints were triggered by the event chart´s ASC/MC-midpoing, Sun, Moon, ASC, MC, Vertex.

IF there was another planet dynamically and closely aspecting one of these personal points (the aspect would have to be conjunction, opposition,s quare, semisquare or sesisquare with a one degree orb at most), also note the planets and midpoints it triggered (as a matter of fact focus on the midpoints it triggered that it shared with the personal point; most of the time they will trigger the same midpoints when they are that closely connected to each other)

posted October 02, 2011 07:35 AM            

So far I see three combined complexes:

I. AP = ASC/MC= Moon= Mars= Jupiter

II. Vertex = Sun= Uranus

III. Venus= Sun/Moon

and of course the midpoints to ASC and MC on their own.

But the first complex alone! 3 of the most important points in ONE complex, and then another personal point connected tightly to Vertex.

I haven`t got analysed it in depth yet, but there are an awful lot of Venus-midpoints.
And Uranus as well. A sudden event connected either to love or creativity? great hopes and dreams attached (neptune is in it as well, but with its conjunction to Moon and Saturn opposing the Moon/Neptune-conjunction - oh well let`s just say when it hit me, I was utterly depressed, My Moon was conjunct Neptune and opposite Saturn, so I take this date personal. ).
But as far as I see it Saturn is not tied to closely into the overall picture, so maybe it was better for you.

I need to delve into this though. just my first impression and it could be a misleading one.

EDIT:
Actually my very first thought was that this event might have led to sex or a sexual encounter, but that may have more to do with my current state of mind than the real astrology here. So we better scratch that.

EDIT 2:
Second thought was that it might have been the first time you really fell in love and it hit you quite suddenly. Or at least SOMEONE might have had sparkly feelings, I haven`t yet checked the transits to your chart, so actually I do not know yet how you experienced it. I really need to stop guessing and do the astrological homework. lol

posted October 02, 2011 08:33 AM            

I. ASC/MC= AP = Moon = Jupiter
= Moon/Jupiter
= Jupiter/ Neptune
= Jupiter / Saturn

(Mars is a bit out of orb)

II. Vertex= Sun= Uranus
= Venus/Node
= Sun/Uranus
= Venus/Mars
= Venus/Pluto

III. Sun/Moon (this day and hour)= Venus
= Sun/jupiter
= Sun/neptune
= Moon/Uranus
= Saturn/Uranus
= Uranus/Neptune
= Pluto/ASC
= Moon/Vertex

IV. ASC=
Sun/mars
= Mercury/Mars
= mercury/Pluto
= Mercury/node
= Mars/Uranus

V. MC
= Moon/Venus
= Venus/Saturn
= Venus/Neptune

posted October 02, 2011 09:38 AM            

With the connection to the AP the significance of this moment seems to be emphasised.

Moon/Jupiter might speak of an expanded emotionalism at that time. that could signify great emotional happiness and satisfaction or also just that feelings are expansive, even exaggerated.

Jupiter/Neptune speaks of great hopes and dreams, idealism, but of course could also relate to dreaming "too" big, and having rose coloured glasses. high expectations that might not be always met.

Jupiter/Saturn is contrasting the Jupiter/Neptune, bringing the ideals down to earth, maybe even disillusioning to a degree, or just make for a more mature and realistic approach.

Of course this coincides with the Moon-neptune-conjunction opposing Saturn in the sky. And that speaks of crashing hopes and emotional idealism. Almost likek someone was thinking to highly of someone else and is being brought down to earth very painfully. The truth always comes to light.

<i am not really sure what that could relate to, but I think the pivotal things to keep in mind are that there is emotional idealism involved, which might make someone happy or is just simply exaggerated and unrealistic, and this idealism is being met with reality, and probably not too smoothly.

posted October 02, 2011 09:42 AM            

Did you see the midpoints are ALL with Venus?
That led me to think that this might be about a loveaffair or loverelationship, maybe meeting someone whom one falls in love with.

A day (Sun) fated (Vertex) to bring a sudden turn of events (Uranus), which apparently has to do with love (Venus).

Venus/Node speaks of love connections.
Venus/Mars of course is about passion and sexual desire.
Venus/Pluto intensifies the feelings of passion to the point of compulsive love and sensuality.

posted October 02, 2011 09:53 AM            

= Venus
= Sun/Jupiter
= Sun/Neptune
= Moon/Uranus
= Saturn/Uranus
= Uranus/Neptune
= Pluto / ASC

First of all the connection to Venus highlights again that love and attraction might have played a big role in that event.

Uranus brings the excitability into it, but also a certain instability, while Neptune increases romantic dreams, which could either lead to magical experiences or into disillusement and disappointment.

Some keywords:

° falling in love suddenly; flirt, sudden experiences of love,
° intense fascination
° affection
° powerful changes, making one feel overwhelmed due to the strong emotional impact

but also:
° confusion, uncertainty, feeling as if one is being "tipsy" or drunk
° unclear conditions in a relationship; sudden confusion

° romantic dreams, longing for love with possible disapointment
° erotic fantasies, being seduced easily, longing for love without fulfillment, renouncing love, feeling as if under a love spell