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Ami Anne
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posted November 16, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It like to start new. I will pull over the post you wrote

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posted November 16, 2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so, naturally the first thing I notice is your ascendant. Scorpio rising is the best if I do say so.

Pluto in the 10th… that’s interesting to me. With all of my scorpio I know pluto’s influence very well. So this is really fascinating to me. To have his great regenerative abilities positioned in the house of careers… you must have a great ability to encourage change within your field (which I have seen to be true just by reading through these boards) I also would think this gives you a very large capacity to handle dealing with all of the problems people come to you with. As, healing people, whether through psychology or astrology, (or your unique blend of both), must also encourage you to evolve, hmm.. maybe not evolve, but let’s say, develop or grow. Pluto is trining the north node and conjunct the midheaven, that says to me that change is an overwhelming theme in your life. You have the power to encourage change as well as create change.

I also have pluto square saturn and have to say this aspect has always eluded me. The best way I’ve been able to interpret it is as intense guilt, and feeling as though I have to atone for past actions in some way because I should never have allowed them to happen. The atonement is also often very harsh, as though it’s not a simple apology or act of kindness, but a long, slow, often painful reinvention. Pluto has always appeared to me as a revolutionist. He demands change, craves it. Whereas Saturn is the discipline that forbids the change from happening, he’s the conservative. In the square I think it’s as though Saturn expects the change but does everything in his power to stop it, to keep in orthodox and orderly. But Pluto keeps trying to force it. This makes it confusing to know what needs to be changed and what should be left alone. Do you agree with this? I’m curious what your thoughts are on this aspect as it has always confused me but has such a powerful presence.

Cancer moons (at least the ones I’ve met) always appear to me as the hard artist types, and by hard I mean they’re not quite willing to tip their creative energy in either direction. They’re stable, satisfied in the energy they put into their art, any type of art, intimate communication even, never wanting to take more from it or put more in. They appreciate their emotions for what they are, never delving too deep into them, but never ignore them either. Do you think you understand your emotions but never try very hard to fully grasp them, as though they just are and you’re okay with that? No motive or influence, you feel what you feel because you feel it and that’s that. Do you think that’s true?

I don't mean that you are not intuitive or connected to your emotions (with a water moon, I'm not sure that's even a possibility!), just that their role is accepted. It’s never tested or probed. You allow yourself to feel them, to think them, to act on them, and expose or share them when necessary. The moon is in dignity in Cancer, so I’m wondering if there is a sense of comfort and appropriate, that’s it! Do you feel as though your emotions are most often appropriate? That they fit the circumstance and so therefore are neither a nuisance nor asset, simply a support?

I wonder also if this is true because you are too busy concerning yourself with the emotions of others? Do you find you are very sympathetic but have trouble balancing how far you should allow yourself to get into others’ concerns?

The mars is what I’m curious about… I could be off on this but I’m wondering if you feel like you’re body feels your emotions? Do you feel like your body reacts when you’re upset or angry more so than your mind reacts? I’m not sure about this…Having the moon so connected with the god of war must be very intense. I guess I just can’t imagine this not coming through physically, feeling every bit of sadness as a heaviness in the eyes or face, every bit of anger as tight muscles and hot skin… Do you think this is accurate?

9th house mars and Jupiter- Are you very religious? If so, are you active in that religious community?

How am I doing so far? I am quite new at this. Hopefully I’m getting some things right. I will look further tomorrow, if you like.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 16, 2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t think it’s possible not to be a student when it comes to astrology. There are just so many possibilities, so many different ways of interpreting it. I am so excited to start learning with you.

I haven’t dealt with unaspected planets before. But I think an unaspected venus would create a need for being loved or to be in a relationship, but then, once in a relationship not quite sure how to react or respond to having it. Not so much responding to the other person, but responding to what it means to be connected, to be IN the relationship, to have a part of it. Since it is balanced solely by itself, there is nothing there to instruct you on how to involve yourself, how to distance yourself from certain people, or integrate yourself with others. Since venus is in Gemini, I’m wondering if this translates to communication. Do you ever feel that the way you communicate is difficult for some people to understand? Gemini, I think, would also make you unsure of what you want from a relationship. Do you change your mind frequently? Thinking one moment that you want one thing from your relationship only to want something else the next….

But another thing I think of for an unaspected venus is stability. Do you feel like you attract the same type of people all the time? Are most of your friends very similar to you? Do you maintain relationships for long periods of time? The Gemini might influence differently, though.

I’m not sure on this one. Tell me your thoughts about it and maybe I’ll get a better feel for it. How do you think it affects you?

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posted November 16, 2011 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously, these are from you, Scorpio Rising lol
I am gonna study them and reply, little by little.

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posted November 17, 2011 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am bumping this so I see it

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posted November 17, 2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami

I'm also a Scorpio Ascendant. From my limited knowledge, my chart has a lot scorpio-like traits if you'd like to take a look at it ^^.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2011 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cecile
Put it on a separate thread, with attention to me, Sweetie!

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posted November 17, 2011 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna write about some things you said. The Saturn/Pluto square is 9 degrees, Thank God lol
However, I think I feel it a lot! I should look up Pluto sq Saturn. I will do that. Saturn is retro so it is Saturn like a million times worse.
It is a bummer Saturn like climbing a mountain with your fingernails.

However, Saturn conj the ASC is WAY better than conj the Sun or moon. The ASC is more removed, so I am glad for that, at least.


The ASC is one's outer mannerisms. I will go one

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posted November 18, 2011 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Scorp, I think you are on to something big for me. It is Saturn square Pluto. Even the 9 degrees must be touching me cuz something is and it must be this.

Saturn retro is Saturn climbing mountains with it's fingernails.It is a very slow climb up to what Saturn touches. In this case, it is my ASC, or face to the world.

I am gonna research Saturn sq Pluto and put it here.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Saturn square Pluto
Saturn square Pluto can indicate self-will and persistence to the point of ruthlessness. There is often exposure to some very difficult emotional experiences, and these may set up a defensive stance that makes the ability to forgive and forget hard to maintain. People with this aspect have the ability to perform difficult work and possess great commitment. Self-restraint can be almost obsessive at times and when motivated by a challenge, their drive and endurance is remarkable.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aturn square Pluto: Obsessive Control
August 21st, 2010 by Maria DeSimone

In Astrology, when two planets are square, the energy is impossible to ignore. To say that its “tension” is putting it mildly. A square can truly be felt as the most difficult circumstance in your life to overcome. And therein lies its beauty. Yes, I just called a square beautiful. And no, I have not been drinking.

Without squares in our life, we wouldn’t have the motivation to overcome anything. If a problem is so uncomfortable, we have no choice but to work on ways to solve it. Squares become beautiful because they show us what we’re truly made of.

And when you consider Saturn square Pluto, you’ve got more of an ability to handle the nitty-gritty in life than anyone else on Earth. If you have this aspect natally, then life sure isn’t easy — don’t expect a free lunch. Ironically, at the same time, you’re in command of your destiny in a magnificent way. This is because Saturn is the planet of structure and discipline while Pluto is the planet of elimination and transformation.

Huh? How could it be positive to have your structures eliminated in a tense way? As an astrologer with this aspect in her own natal chart I can tell you one thing — it hurts. This is because with the square aspect, you really don’t want to let go of the structures in your life in order to embrace transformation.

No thanks, I’d rather remain in my rut because it’s what I know. But the universe gave me that square for a reason: to remind me of the incredible power of transformation that’s available once I let go of the structures in life that no longer serve me; to understand that the traditional “comfort zone” structures in my life are really the path of least resistance, and won’t allow me to come into my greatest potential for transformation in this lifetime.

Once I understood this square in my life I began to turn it around. When I lose a structure I recognize it as necessary for opening a door that will take me closer to my amazing power (Pluto). And when I stop being so obsessive about retaining control of my destiny, this is when the real magic happens. Letting go is what gets you in control when Saturn squares Pluto.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are transits but there is not that much info on Saturn sq Pluto in the natal


Saturn opposite Pluto
Circumstances may appear to work against you and bring very sensitive issues to the fore. Changes you want to make or are making may be challenged by someone close to you or by events. This could heat up and be an explosive time.

Saturn square Pluto
Not an easy time unless you like walking on eggs. Outer events could manage to challenge you at every turn by bringing up very sensitive issues, one after another. You may have to move ever so gently and with patience to avoid explosions and anger.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is for the Composite chart but still can give a feel for the aspect

Composite Saturn Square Pluto
Your life together may be tough. This relationship is serious and intense and may have grave qualities. Loyalty and commitment are mandatory. Otherwise, there can be bitter anguish. Either you will be great survivors or you may destroy each other. Slow but steady transformation is the way to go.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn Trine Pluto

Saturn trine Pluto
Great resilience is offered by Saturn trine Pluto, and the ability to maintain a focussed effort with consistency and rigour. The mind is attracted to complex issues which resound with profundity and emotional depth. Those born with this aspect can often attract fervent opposition to their views, because those who like to 'just leave things as they are' are disturbed by the way they will uproot problems and seek to expose their basis. But the aspect also offers great strength of character and purpose, so they are not easily dissuaded from their path.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Saturn opposition Pluto


Saturn opposite Pluto often brings considerable challenges that require hard work and dedication. Those born with this aspect usually have great strength of reserves, but need to be wary of obsessiveness and self-restraint that borders on unneccesary self-sacrifice. On a personal level there is difficulty in expressing deep emotions, but they can have deep empathy for others. Often, there is an acute awareness of the pain and hardship that accompanies life and many people with this aspect are well suited to working hard for the benefit of those that have suffered genuine hurt.

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posted November 18, 2011 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is a very transformative planet. It asks us to serve or suffer. If a strong Pluto is present and you are being too stubborn, not letting go, and holding on, this planet will infer change, re-birth, or become very persuasive in bringing about change. It can represent anxiety that lasts for a long time, or instant freedom, through transformation, peace and re-birth that can be wonderful when you eventually learn to let go.

Note that whenever it says square in your chart, that shows Karma with your self, you are your own worst enemy, with this trait in your personality. Squares are just us holding ourselves down, it's no one's fault but our own, we made the mess ourselves.

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posted November 19, 2011 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been trying to meditate on Retro Saturn conj the ASC in Scorpio square Pluto sq the MC in Leo. I need to meditate on things, to feel them out. Please, jump in and lets discuss this aspect. I have overlooked it due to the 9 degrees. I thought it didn't count, but i think it does. It may not be as pressing as a closer square but I am sure I can feel it. It is a powerful aspect. To have these two planets touching in a square would have to be felt!

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posted November 20, 2011 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will talk out loud and see what you think. Saturn Retro conj the ASC is hard. I would describe it as a huge insecurity about going out in the world and being able to figure it our, your place in it, your competency.

It really gives you such a mountain to overcome in your sense of being able to make your own place in the world. I have to go like a snail, to force myself to make a step, just one, by the force of my will until I can do another, by the force of my will. This is how I have been inching along.I suppose it is Satuen conj the ASC. Do you agree?

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posted November 20, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then, if you square it to Pluto, you have a very hard aspect. The 9 degrees had to be a gift from God. If it were closer, I don't think I could even do it.

So, I will try to talk about this square. Pluto conj the MS is a good aspect. I like it. I suppose I am unique in that I don't sell out to groups. I never have. I abhor the thought of submerging my will to a group. This is a good aspect and a strong one

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posted November 20, 2011 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a LOT going on with that PLuto, though. It conjuncts Deja and Child. Deja and Child are an exact conjunction which is not good. It shows that I was a victim, as a child and I was. However, Pluto, there, makes me strong. I do not let people bully me, so I suppose Pluto, conjunct Deja is a Saving Grace.

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posted November 20, 2011 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deja conjunct Child is just pure pain. It squares Nessus, which would be more of the same.


So, you take ALL that and you have Saturn Retro conjunct the ASC square it. It makes ME tired, just thinking of it. I am gonna take a break lol

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