posted November 27, 2011 10:55 AM            

I will do the natal charts %70 orb today sometime Now, gotta go

posted November 27, 2011 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
Outside ia him. I hope I did the chart right %65 - could you please teach me some basics about orbs ?

I will do the natal charts %70 orb today sometime Now, gotta go

Thank you

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Orbs is just a techy way of saying the acceptable difference in degrees from being exact in an aspect. Eg. an orb of 7 degrees for conjunct means that we can accept two planets to be conjunct if they are within 7 degrees apart.

If we use the standard orb in astro, the chart will show you aspects up to a very wide orb, like 10degrees for conj/opp and 8 degrees for sq/tri.

For me, in order to filter out the less influential aspects and focus on the key few, I like using a smaller orb. I read somewhere that for natal a wider orb is still observable in a lot of cases while for sth to be felt in synastry, a smaller orb is probably necessary.

As a guideline, for synastry, I usually use up to 7 degrees for conj/opp if incl Sun/Moon/Asc, a bit more careful or a degree or two less if only other personal planets are involved, and usually dont care if it is between outer planets only. For trine & squ 4-5degrees, sextile 3. Not very good at dealing with quincunx yet. For asteroids, seems like most of those experienced are looking at within 3 for conj/opp and 1-2 only for sq & trine

posted November 27, 2011 11:25 AM            

The other is prolly related to why it is hard to let go: his pluto hitting you hard and your karma conj his sun (he's in your life with a purpose, and a catalyst for your transformation)

posted November 27, 2011 02:00 PM            

He healed me in someways;; I was no longer scared to express my feelings. His presence in my life inspired me to write again. Sex was transendental...

Tt was an unconventional affair.

Thank you, I am looking forward to hearing more

posted November 28, 2011 08:17 AM            

Excited cause I do not know much about astreoids except Chiron, Juno...

posted November 28, 2011 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
thank you yuting Yes, you're right I think we had some compatibility. We used to have a lot fun together. He felt like I sometimes.

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There are 2 levels I think, compatibility from Sun/Moon. He is super Gemini with asc in Gem, mercury the ruler in 1st as well as Sun in Gem & Ven in 3H. He is versatile, good with words, has many interests and likes to share them. This, I think, appeals to your Gemini moon which will feel restless if you just stick to 1 thing at a time. It's like he stimulated your curiosity and opened your eyes to more.

Does that sound right?

And you have Asc in Capricorn & Ven in 1H. So your steadfastness and reliability would appeal to his Taurean moon (ie he likes to be changeable himself with the Gemini Sun/Asc, but he likes dealing with emotions and people who are more steady with Taurean Moon). He probably liked your looks as well. Tell me, are you one of those beauties? Beautiful people and things can certainly appeal to a Taurean moon. Well, the rising star wife would be beautiful too, I guess.

As for you feel you are alike probably both of you have strong 1H. Sun/Mer for both of you, you with Ven also in 1H and him the ruler in 1H. So probably both of you have strong presence and confidence. Both of you like talking. Now I wonder who talked more when you two were together. So two of a kind. Right?

I would tend to see your Sun to be in 1H, though technically it is still 12H, as it is very close to Asc. Actually house cusp planets often bear energy of both houses. My guess is when you were younger, you were more 12H, very introspective, self-critical and preferred low profile, but you would have been coming/have come out of your shell as you grow older. Just progressing the Sun would help you move that step.
Does that sound like you?

posted November 28, 2011 09:59 AM            

For you, the feeling would be of a lighter nature. His planets hit mostly your fun/outgoing houses, though he could still trigger your emotions (Moon/Asc conj). But maybe that's why you found his leaving for another so sudden. Cos you could be still perceiving the relationshio as uplifting, cheerful and fun, while he was already boiling in deep emotions that he's not used to dealing with (ie different perception of the relationship personality)

posted November 28, 2011 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by yuting:
There are 2 levels I think, compatibility from Sun/Moon. He is super Gemini with asc in Gem, mercury the ruler in 1st as well as Sun in Gem & Ven in 3H. He is versatile, good with words, has many interests and likes to share them. This, I think, appeals to your Gemini moon which will feel restless if you just stick to 1 thing at a time. It's like he stimulated your curiosity and opened your eyes to more.

Does that sound right?

Yes, so true. He is a very talented & well known musician, he draws & very good at it, though he does not prefer to sing, his voice is very good as well. He is very social. He used to stimulate me a lot.

And you have Asc in Capricorn & Ven in 1H. So your steadfastness and reliability would appeal to his Taurean moon (ie he likes to be changeable himself with the Gemini Sun/Asc, but he likes dealing with emotions and people who are more steady with Taurean Moon). He probably liked your looks as well. Tell me, are you one of those beauties? Beautiful people and things can certainly appeal to a Taurean moon. Well, the rising star wife would be beautiful too, I guess.

I am not a standard beauty but people think I am atractive and charismatic. My presence is usally felt. I look younger than my age. The rising star; she as well not a standard beauty but has a special aura. And we're both skiny She was my neighbour

As for you feel you are alike probably both of you have strong 1H. Sun/Mer for both of you, you with Ven also in 1H and him the ruler in 1H. So probably both of you have strong presence and confidence. Both of you like talking. Now I wonder who talked more when you two were together. So two of a kind. Right?

Unfortunately, even though we are both talkative people, we could rarely speak with each other. A friend of ours used to say " Knowing the two of you, I can't believe how you can't chat with each other" We used to spend most of our times in bed. Making love, sleeping but not very much of talking. The electricity was too much to exchange words. Yes, we both have a strong presence & a confident outlook.

I would tend to see your Sun to be in 1H, though technically it is still 12H, as it is very close to Asc. Actually house cusp planets often bear energy of both houses. My guess is when you were younger, you were more 12H, very introspective, self-critical and preferred low profile, but you would have been coming/have come out of your shell as you grow older. Just progressing the Sun would help you move that step.
Does that sound like you?

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You are right when I was younger, I had self esteem issues. I was into perfection and well I was not perfect As I grow older, I feel better about myself.

posted November 28, 2011 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
I tried to quote your paragraphs but the outcome is "my answers are in between yours"

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posted November 28, 2011 11:33 AM            

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Unfortunately, even though we are both talkative people, we could rarely speak with each other. A friend of ours used to say " Knowing the two of you, I can't believe how you can't chat with each other" We used to spend most of our times in bed. Making love, sleeping but not very much of talking. The electricity was too much to exchange words. Yes, we both have a strong presence & a confident outlook.

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Well, when both want to talk, then none gets to talk, cos you wont know who to speak first (who wins? no one)

posted November 28, 2011 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by yuting:
Interestingly, while you say you are the one who cannot let go, I think he's more profoundly affected by his relationship with you. I think you brought him deep feelings (which gemini is usually not very good at). Your sun/mer/ven hit his 8H which was empty. This could mean before meeting you, deep feelings, shared resources, taboo issues etc were probably not much of a concern for him, but after meeting you, these issues took on a much deeper role. He probably relied a lot on you for emotional support before. He might not show it though, cos these thoughts would be deep in him.

For you, the feeling would be of a lighter nature. His planets hit mostly your fun/outgoing houses, though he could still trigger your emotions (Moon/Asc conj). But maybe that's why you found his leaving for another so sudden. Cos you could be still perceiving the relationshio as uplifting, cheerful and fun, while he was already boiling in deep emotions that he's not used to dealing with (ie different perception of the relationship personality)

Yet, when it comes to letting go, it seems you have more karmic links to him, Karma conj his Sun, his planets hit your nodal axis more, your personal planets hit by his Pluto.

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No spoken words so I could never be sure of anything. But what I felt was like coming from another dimension.

He did not leave me. We were not lovers. It was unconventional. He was seeing other women & I was seeing other man when he ****** me off. Only a few though I did some stupid things. But he shed the first blood

He was my fun. I was entertained by him.
And sex was so special. I think he could never really see who I was.

For almost 2 years, we spend either 1 or 2 night&days together. Then he moved to another town but every month 1 or 2 nights we kept seeing each other. Till I had enough of him being so unreliable. So, I told him that he is my weakness and I kindly requested him to help me and not call me A week later we came across, he was o so cuddling & loving, he asked to spend the night with me. I said yes but we did not. I was drunk, he was supposed to come right after me. I arrived home, he called he said in a few minutes I am there.
Then I passed out. I woke up in the morning.
No missed calls, no messages.

I left the town for a looong holiday. I was in a lagoon drinking my cocktail when I read his facebook wall message. He was screaming his love to my neighbour.

We ended up as neighbours for 8 months till I moved out : )

It's a complicated story with complex situations...

posted November 28, 2011 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by yuting:
Well, when both want to talk, then none gets to talk, cos you wont know who to speak first (who wins? no one)

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Ahah! That rings true as well. But also, I believe it was something about me that was the root cause of the silent communication in between us.

Thank you so much for your comments. I can say they are very accurate.

posted November 28, 2011 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:
I just read Eros in signs. http://www.internationalastrologers.com/eros.htm
Interesting information.

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His eros on your karma. He probably had the heats for you in past life too.

Anyway, now that he's married and a synastry would not really tell you how to let go (it tells more how the two would interact when together).

Like in your other thread, you would want to let go.

Without doubt, your meeting was karmic. However, karmic relationship also means when the karma debt is paid off (whichever side, or both), the relationship end. If you have learnt the necessary karmic lesson, suddenly you'd let go. And when you look back, you'd wonder why it was so difficult to let go before.

posted November 28, 2011 09:27 PM            

Yeap, I know synastry can't tell me how to let go. I am cheating myself. I am looking our synastry most probably because I would like to know if there is any hope left.

He inspired me and I wrote a lot when I was having the affair with him. He was a character in my story. a free spirit, cool, funky man. Now, he is dead. Because security won over freedom. He was sooo something else...

To me "lovers" is; simply commitment. To give your word that you love & belong. That you want to share each and every moment of your life together.

cheers to Club 37 !