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Topic: iQ, need your advice
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 05, 2011 08:49 AM
Hi iQ,Don't know if you remember me and my email early this year. In any case, you helped me do a 2010-11 SR reading and you mentioned "Someone from your past may be the one who seriously woos you. Someone who could have been a hidden admirer. It could be a past life lover as well. The reason is: Saturn conj EROS [fated male soulmate] and Saturn-EROS conj Venus, VALENTINE and Mars...form a very powerful Libra Stellium in the 12th House!" In my email to you, I told you about the very karmic guy I met near my 2010 bday and you warned me about "the present guy has karma with you but he is not improving his nature and hence he will carry the debt. You do not have to bother. Notice NN oppose Sun, meaning South Node conjunct Sun, a 100% past life contact. And Saturn squares KARMA, the debt is unpleasant." Well, it seems he IS that karmic guy indicated in my SR cos I met no one else at all that even slightly grabbed my attention other than him in the whole SR. And we are still connected. He has improved in his behavior and we met for a few more times and daily sms. But like what Saturn implies, the development is sloooooow (regardless good or bad direction). I have accepted that we have karmic debt to repay and lessons to learn together this lifetime. I am not counting on a "and we live happily even after", but if we are thrown together to go through some growth together, I might as well learn my lessons well, and pay off any debts properly. So I would appreciate if you could give me some advice on what are the key dynamics, what type of lesson/growth area to focus on etc. from our synastry chart and composite chart. Would really appreciate your wisdom.
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 05, 2011 08:51 AM
His birthtime is within +/-1hr, so cannot use his angles, but moon should be ok. For synastry, I am inside in the chart and across in the aspect table. IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 05, 2011 08:53 AM
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iQ Moderator Posts: 3524 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 05, 2011 12:24 PM
Dear Yu Ting, Am very happy that you joined here. I will look in to the charts in a day or two. IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 05, 2011 07:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Dear Yu Ting, Am very happy that you joined here. I will look in to the charts in a day or two.
Many thanks!
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 07, 2011 09:14 AM
I also noted our first meeting chart had quite a bit of similarity with my 2010-11 solar return chart.You can find my FMC under the subject "To Hera - FMC" IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 08, 2011 04:01 AM
lightly bumping
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 09, 2011 08:21 PM
Another gentle bumpIP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 12, 2011 09:50 AM
bumpity
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 14, 2011 03:36 AM
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 23, 2011 08:19 PM
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 10, 2012 02:21 AM
Bump.Hi Iq, Wonder if you could give me some advice.
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1016 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 10, 2012 12:14 PM
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left should be *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up the aspect grid –at a glance planet to planet. Post the whole PDF file, what we are looking for if scroll down to ‘partner comparison’ aspect gridPlease remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1016 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 10, 2012 12:21 PM
his saturn looks to be conj your moon, not great at all, is it within 3' orb??his eros conj your asc - good Is your venus conj his sun. Just looking at your aspect grid and well done for posting it.. suns conjunct, sunc onj veus moon square mercury venus conj mercury jupiter conj venus jupiter opp mars moon square saturn mercury trine neptune saturn opp uranus mercury sextile pluto saturn trine venus. Excellent synatry overall Transits can also apply over composite charts..
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 11, 2012 04:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'
Yes, I am aware of your using 3' orb, but usually, I prefer to use a slightly higher ratio say 65% myself for the chart, so I have the discretion to increase the orbs of aspects involving planets in a stellium or a particular strong planet of the chart as there are other reinforcements. When I look at the aspects, I can always just pick the ones within 3' from the aspect grid if there are no exceptional circumstances. I feel this provides me more flexibility. IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 11, 2012 04:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: his saturn looks to be conj your moon, not great at all, is it within 3' orb??
Yes, within orb and DW Saturn Sq moon also within orb. And yes, there are frustrations. quote: Is your venus conj his sun. Just looking at your aspect grid and well done for posting it..
Yes, conjunct. quote: moon square mercury
Hmmm...believe that's a moon conj mercury quote: Excellent synatry overall
My wish, but I do know it is a heavy one, with all those Saturn and South Node aspects. quote: Transits can also apply over composite charts..
I feel the composite is not good. Will have tough time if together. Anyway, I am hoping Iq, you and other more experienced astrologers can give me more pointers. Hard to be objective when reading one's own charts, unless retroactive
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1016 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 11, 2012 01:10 PM
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Yes, I am aware of your using 3' orb, but usually, I prefer to use a slightly higher ratio say 65% myself for the chart, so I have the discretion to increase the orbs of aspects involving planets in a stellium or a particular strong planet of the chart as there are other reinforcements. When I look at the aspects, I can always just pick the ones within 3' from the aspect grid if there are no exceptional circumstances. I feel this provides me more flexibility.
that's *convenient* but maybe you are in danger of reading too much into aspects with wide orbs... I don't know of any reputable astrologers that would go with orbs of larger than 3' but hey if you think it works for youhere are some free resources for you.. Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive' Composite charts If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation...... But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy. Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together.... you 'should' reduce the orbs ratio on astro.com down to 40% as max orb in synastry and comp is 3'. Also please add transits which is easily seen once you have the chart just above to right is option 'with transits' http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PR16&dq=robert+hand+composites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended “The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other. The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm “Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html “For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html click on link to read full article http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html
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yuting Knowflake Posts: 498 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 11, 2012 06:38 PM
Thanks for the input. Yes, I am aware of the tools and books you've mentioned and have used them beforeIP: Logged |