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posted December 12, 2011 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 12, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mind posting a chart with the 4 common asteroids of Ceres, Pallas, Juno & Vesta?
Best if you can input 70% for reducing the orb. Thanks

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posted December 13, 2011 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There you go, yuting. Let me know if there are any other asteroids you'd like to look at. I'll try to study the asteroids a bit better so I can interpret the ones in your chart. I'm just getting a hold of Chiron now

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posted December 13, 2011 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you by any chance a teacher?

You have mostly earth & air, with Mer in ruler Virgo 1H trining Nep/Ura (a bit wide, but with closeby stellium)/NN in 5H and sextile Plu in 3H.

This seems to point to very strong intellectual capabilities. Ability to deal with both factual details and the abstracts. Ability to communicate depth, with creativity and imagination. Wow! I have already started to admire you!
I dont think you will lack admirers (non-romantic sense, just admire you as a person), esp for young ones. You are probably their role model. Sun & Mer in 1H prolly make you a memorable person, "She's so smart", supported by a strong 5H, "and interesting". But if you teach, your students might say "but she's so strict" cos I see Saturn there, trining Sun at that.

If you are not yet a teacher, I think it is worthwhile to think about a career that requires you to impact knowledge and wisdom. Cos Mer trine NN seems to be telling me to guide others with your intellect could be your calling.

Oops! Me babbling on again. Hope some of it resonate

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posted December 13, 2011 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
There you go, yuting. Let me know if there are any other asteroids you'd like to look at. I'll try to study the asteroids a bit better so I can interpret the ones in your chart. I'm just getting a hold of Chiron now

I am just starting on asteroids too, so I am just looking at the major ones, and commenting on them only when they make major aspects to personal planets of related areas with close orbs. Do not know how to interpret them with all planetary combinations yet

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posted December 13, 2011 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for the emotional side, I see the energy flows less easily for you.

You do not have many water planets, non-personal. Plu and Ceres are in Scorpio, a fixed water, thus even with emotions felt, they are not likely to show easily. You are likely to come across as cool & logical. But it is possible that you have softened or will soften as you grow older Your moon is in aquarius, which supports your creative logical mind, but it is literal on Cancer cusp, so you willl have the mothering urge in you too, prolly gaining prominence as you grow older and your chart progresses.

This moon is in 6H, so this combined logical yet soft mother moon will show itself best when in services to others (again pointing to teaching/counseling/guiding others)?

Love/romantic area might be less easy for you. You have Venus in Leo in 12H. You would really prefer a romantic relationship that is fun, romantic, creative and under the Sun, but 12H might make you more attracted to unusual (thus often hidden/secret) relationships which you feel you should make sacrifices (and with Leo, grand sacrifices). But Leo Venus is really urging the native to find a relationship that she could natually be in the sun. Pisces on Desc & Neptune in 5H might increase the chance you cannot see clearly in romance & relationship.

Draw on Vesta in 12H, because Vesta is the internal peace, internal voice that asks whether you are truly happy & satisfied, so that you will not fall into any romantic traps that victimize you.

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posted December 13, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you by any chance a teacher?

You have mostly earth & air, with Mer in ruler Virgo 1H trining Pallas/Nep/Ura (a bit wide, but with closeby stellium)/NN in 5H and sextile Plu in 3H.

This seems to point to very strong intellectual capabilities. Ability to deal with both factual details and the abstracts. Ability to communicate depth, with creativity and imagination. Wow! I have already started to admire you!
I dont think you will lack admirers (non-romantic sense, just admire you as a person), esp for young ones. You are probably their role model. Sun & Mer in 1H prolly make you a memorable person, "She's so smart", supported by a strong 5H, "and interesting". But if you teach, your students might say "but she's so strict" cos I see Saturn there, trining Sun at that.

If you are not yet a teacher, I think it is worthwhile to think about a career that requires you to impact knowledge and wisdom. Cos Mer trine Pallas (the wise woman adviser) and NN seems to be telling me to guide others with your intellect could be your calling.

Oops! Me babbling on again. Hope some of it resonate


No I am not a teacher, but that is an excellent point! I love teaching the things I have known to others and I especially love passing down knowledge to young children. I was actually just thinking lately about becoming a teacher for kids around the ages of 5-7. Would be nice to have a day care too because I kids that are babies to about 4/5 years old. I can't wait til the day comes that I become a mother. I love kids they can all make me smile on my worse day.

That is sweet of you to say that I am an admirable person. It is true in a sense, younger people always look up to me. Even through my own childhood my younger siblings and their friends have always looked up to me, came to me for advice or guidance. Actually, I am 20 years old and I have people my parents age that come to me for advice on their relationships and even careers.
I spent my entire teen years babysitting really small kids and they all loved me. I was always responsible in the sense that I cleaned their house, made sure the kids were fed, gave them their baths. But I was also really fun and played games with them, made playdough with them, took them to the park. Most little kids think I am the most hilarious person ever lol they would constantly ask me to tell them certain jokes of mine or make a funny face that they like. I think the biggest reason why younger kids like me though is that I speak to them as if they are individuals, not babies. I do not baby talk and I make them feel important and like a "big kid".


With my thinking, I can be very philosophical and intuitive but I apply all of it in a practical sense. I am logical and don't just believe what anyone tells me and I am careful to properly assess all the details before I get too involved into everything. But for the most part I am very broad minded and also quite spiritual.

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posted December 13, 2011 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As for the emotional side, I see the energy flows less easily for you.

You do not have many water planets, non-personal. Plu and Ceres are in Scorpio, a fixed water, thus even with emotions felt, they are not likely to show easily. You are likely to come across as cool & logical. But it is possible that you have softened or will soften as you grow older Your moon is in aquarius, which supports your creative logical mind, but it is literal on Cancer cusp, so you willl have the mothering urge in you too, prolly gaining prominence as you grow older and your chart progresses.


I have struggled my entire life with my emotions. I have always been a deep feeling person with so much emotion that I feel like I'm going to burst but I have always kept it to myself. It's almost as if I was embarrassed about being over emotional or laying my feelings onto someone else. With my Aqua Moon I am bound to be intellectual and to question my emotions. "why do I feel this way?" It's like I think what I feel versus actually feeling it. I can remember being really young, maybe 6 or 7 and I was having a bit of a temper tantrum and freaking out over something ridiculous and my dad saying to me "you know you're getting to old to be having a hissy fit like that. Your behavior is really unfair to everyone else. You're a big girl now please act like it" and boy did those words stick with me. I was so embarrassed by that I didn't want to ever seem childish like that again so I kept myself contained and quiet. The unfortunate thng about this is my dad did not mean for me to stop feeling emotion or to express it, he just wanted me to not be a brat basically lol. But you are right...transits and progressions have helped. In september my Moon progressed into Sag. The couple years it was in Scorpio, boy that was tough. Was forced to face my emotions and let me tell you there were a lot of them. I think the biggest thing that has helped me emotionally is transiting Neptune conj. my natal Moon. I love this transit

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posted December 13, 2011 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This moon is in 6H, so this combined logical yet soft mother moon will show itself best when in services to others (again pointing to teaching/counseling/guiding others)?

I am always a "servant" in a sense. I have a strong need to make sure everything is in order for the ones I love and that they are happy and content. This is the best way for me to show my affection. I DO things for people, help them out where they need it most. I am not always good with the whole "I love you thing" but like I said with the transits/progressions, I am getting there. I'm not wishy washy with most people but the ones who matter the most will hear me say the words lol

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posted December 13, 2011 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Love/romantic area might be less easy for you. You have Venus in Leo in 12H. You would really prefer a romantic relationship that is fun, romantic, creative and under the Sun, but 12H might make you more attracted to unusual (thus often hidden/secret) relationships which you feel you should make sacrifices (and with Leo, grand sacrifices). But Leo Venus is really urging the native to find a relationship that she could natually be in the sun. Pisces on Desc & Neptune in 5H might increase the chance you cannot see clearly in romance & relationship.

When it comes to this it's hard for me to explain because right now I am in the only serious relationship I have ever been with, this is the only real struggles in love I have experienced and I've been with this guy for over 3 years now. Before that I was really shy and quiet about my affections and what or who I was interested. I hid my beauty from others, hid under clothes. This is the twelfth house. My Leo Venus was screaming from the inside wanting to express myself warmly and flirtatiously. I am actually thankful for the fact I have Venus in the 12th because that shyness about expressing my sensuality allowed for me to wait for someone amazing and worth while. This guy is my absolute best friend and I'm glad I don't really have to think bad to other past guys or anything.

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posted December 13, 2011 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you yuting, cannot wait to hear what else you have to say about me!

On to your chart now!

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posted December 13, 2011 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I am not a teacher, but that is an excellent point! I love teaching the things I have known to others and I especially love passing down knowledge to young children. I was actually just thinking lately about becoming a teacher for kids around the ages of 5-7. Would be nice to have a day care too because I kids that are babies to about 4/5 years old. I can't wait til the day comes that I become a mother. I love kids they can all make me smile on my worse day.

I think the biggest reason why younger kids like me though is that I speak to them as if they are individuals, not babies. I do not baby talk and I make them feel important and like a "big kid".


Glad I got parts right.
I was nonetheless thinking about teaching a bit older kids when I was 1st reading your chart. But with your feedback, I could see how you are interested in young kids.
Plu/Ceres 3H sextile Merc on one side and NN/Nep on the other side. This makes for flowing energy between logic, depth, imagination and tender loving care. Ceres
in the equation attracts you to younger kids. I think without Ceres, you will prefer teaching older kids.

With NN also in the equation, I would say since you also like it, go ahead to pursue nurturing & educating the young. So nice to know your true vocation when young. Took me a while to figure mine

That is sweet of you to say that I am an admirable person. It is true in a sense, younger people always look up to me. Even through my own childhood my younger siblings and their friends have always looked up to me, came to me for advice or guidance. Actually, I am 20 years old and I have people my parents age that come to me for advice on their relationships and even careers.
I spent my entire teen years babysitting really small kids and they all loved me. I was always responsible in the sense that I cleaned their house, made sure the kids were fed, gave them their baths. But I was also really fun and played games with them, made playdough with them, took them to the park.

Maturity beyond your age and controlled emotions. Not surprised

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posted December 13, 2011 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have struggled my entire life with my emotions. I have always been a deep feeling person with so much emotion that I feel like I'm going to burst but I have always kept it to myself. It's almost as if I was embarrassed about being over emotional or laying my feelings onto someone else.

I think it is more Venus in 12H that makes you feel embarassed or that your emotional expressions are unworthy. But I think Vesta there can help you bring yourself out more.
Vesta is an inner voice to question what you do. So in a more outgoing house, it will help you reevaluate yourself whether you are indulging/controlling/pursuing/obsessing too much in the house matter. For 12H, I think it could be a two negatives making one positive. 12H is hiding/covering, so Vesta will help you question whether you are hiding too much, covering too much. You have Jupiter there too (Jup is traditional ruler of Piscean 12H), which means you have the luck/gut feel when to leverage your vesta energy. Btw, Vesta conj Venus in Leo, if you come out of your hiding...you're a dynamite


With my Aqua Moon I am bound to be intellectual and to question my emotions. "why do I feel this way?" It's like I think what I feel versus actually feeling it. I can remember ... my dad saying to me "you know you're getting to old to be having a hissy fit like that. Your behavior is really unfair to everyone else. You're a big girl now please act like it"...I was so embarrassed by that I didn't want to ever seem childish like that again so I kept myself contained and quiet. The unfortunate thng about this is my dad did not mean for me to stop feeling emotion or to express it, he just wanted me to not be a brat basically lol. But you are right...transits and progressions have helped. In september my Moon progressed into Sag. The couple years it was in Scorpio, boy that was tough. Was forced to face my emotions and let me tell you there were a lot of them. I think the biggest thing that has helped me emotionally is transiting Neptune conj. my natal Moon. I love this transit

You do feel. You just cannot help analyzing what you feel and questioning it after you have felt it. Aqua moon is one part, Merc in Virgo in 1H (self) is another. Many people are wary of Neptune being too fanciful, but for you, your Mer trines it and it is on NN, so you can harness it and you need it to help reach your life goal. Your moon is almost Pisces, so nep transit enhances the piscean nature, which you could feel more supportive of your self-development (NN-theme)

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posted December 13, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, I love your balance of energy among cardinal, fixed & mutable, so you should be able to start things you want, stay and adapt as needed to see things to successful conclusion

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posted December 13, 2011 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to this it's hard for me to explain because right now I am in the only serious relationship I have ever been with, this is the only real struggles in love I have experienced and I've been with this guy for over 3 years now. Before that I was really shy and quiet about my affections and what or who I was interested. I hid my beauty from others, hid under clothes. This is the twelfth house. My Leo Venus was screaming from the inside wanting to express myself warmly and flirtatiously. I am actually thankful for the fact I have Venus in the 12th because that shyness about expressing my sensuality allowed for me to wait for someone amazing and worth while. This guy is my absolute best friend and I'm glad I don't really have to think bad to other past guys or anything.

When it is not a problem, why worry about it. Be young and enjoy. Vesta will bring you out with the right guy

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posted December 13, 2011 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most difficult & unsupported planet in your chart is probably Mars. It is in Libra, so you want peace & justice (in 2H, that could be the values you pursue). It is squaring Nep/Uranus, which might make your temper/heat fluctuate, sometimes too ideal, sometimes too pessimistic, sometimes ready to burst. However, it is in Libra, so you dont want to show it, thus a possible passive-aggressiveness, ie resistance or provoking others to fight on it rather than participating in the fight yourself.

Mars in 2H could also mean slow and steady, but with Ura/Nep in the picture, do you feel frustration of things too slow or not turning up in a way you have hoped for?

In fact, I am not sure how this Mars manifest itself, just feel it is the least pleasing planet in your chart. Would love your input on how you feel/experience it.

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posted December 14, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow everything you say is so accurate. As for teaching older kids, I would like to. I tend to be preachy though, influence I have inherited from my mother, and most older kids do not want to hear it. I love being around kids. The most special memories of my own are from my early childhood.

As for the Mars, yes all so true. I do strive for balance and peace and I will fight anyone who tries to make that difficult for anyone else...but I hate fighting. So I will sit there and argue with someone in my head until I have talked myself out of it. I hold on to everything until, like you said, am about to burst. I do sway back and forth with either being too optimistic or too pessimistic. I am too idealistic and energetic and then I am too weak and lazy and do not want to do anything.

Passive aggressiveness is something I have struggled with for years. It can lead to a bit of an inferiority complex which is something I am trying to avoid by forcing myself to just act on what I think or feel and don't think about it more than I should.

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posted December 14, 2011 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 14, 2011 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Juno conj NN and 7H cusp Cancer ruler in 6H, I would think you'd need a partner who is supportive of your work with children (ie not just no objection, but can help you in some way or pro-actively encourage you). Sounds right?

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posted December 14, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost all planets in lower half, and those above are in 12H. Hmmm...you are a private person who prefers to stay out of the limelight. Low profile even among friends. Quiet worker/team member supporting the team. Boss/team leader/other team members might overlook your contribution and you would not push for recognition. Any resonance?

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posted December 14, 2011 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops! I just noticed I mixed up Pallas & Juno for you. So the advisor element is less, but with Sun/Mer trining NN, this creative communication with kids still works. Just that the Ceres mothering element will be stronger than the objective advisor of Pallas.

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posted December 14, 2011 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow everything you say is so accurate. As for teaching older kids, I would like to. I tend to be preachy though, influence I have inherited from my mother, and most older kids do not want to hear it.

Saturn is in 5H after all and Ceres/mother => nagging?

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As for the Mars, yes all so true. I do strive for balance and peace and I will fight anyone who tries to make that difficult for anyone else...but I hate fighting. So I will sit there and argue with someone in my head until I have talked myself out of it. I hold on to everything until, like you said, am about to burst. I do sway back and forth with either being too optimistic or too pessimistic. I am too idealistic and energetic and then I am too weak and lazy and do not want to do anything.

Passive aggressiveness is something I have struggled with for years. It can lead to a bit of an inferiority complex which is something I am trying to avoid by forcing myself to just act on what I think or feel and don't think about it more than I should.


Your Libra Mars is cardinal, so not surprised you'd like to do sth about it. Nevertheless, your Mars energy is not your strongest asset. Maybe channel the handling to your strong area: Sun/Mer trine NN/Nep. When you want to argue, put them through your logical mind, then communicate them in creative ways.

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With Juno conj NN and 7H cusp Cancer ruler in 6H, I would think you'd need a partner who is supportive of your work with children (ie not just no objection, but can help you in some way or pro-actively encourage you). Sounds right?

Definitely. I need him to support every choice I make, especially choices regarding my career.

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Almost all planets in lower half, and those above are in 12H. Hmmm...you are a private person who prefers to stay out of the limelight. Low profile even among friends. Quiet worker/team member supporting the team. Boss/team leader/other team members might overlook your contribution and you would not push for recognition. Any resonance?

This is absolutely correct. I am a very quiet, very private person. I value privacy but more so I am just very shy and self contained. Because of that, you are right my efforts tend to be overlooked and I am too modest to make anything of it.

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Oops! I just noticed I mixed up Pallas & Juno for you. So the advisor element is less, but with Sun/Mer trining NN, this creative communication with kids still works. Just that the Ceres mothering element will be stronger than the objective advisor of Pallas.

Yeah I guess I am more motherly than the advisor type. I do tend to preach and give advice but that nervous side of me I scared to **** anyone off or to come across as bossy. I'd prefer to take care of people. I have a question... I have always had a soft spot for elderly people. I love talking to them. I cannot stand being around most other 20 years olds, even people twice my age. I admire older people the most. I enjoying caring for them. I like to teach young kids, I find it fun. But I love the company of people in their 60s and up (not that 60 is elderly in the slightest bit. I guess elderly was the wrong word to use.) Does this show in my chart?

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