posted December 12, 2011 10:46 PM            

I am posting both Equal & Plad charts.
Mars/NN/MC, Sun/Ven and Mers are in different houses. You can play with both

Here are the two charts:

posted December 13, 2011 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Okay just going to sit at my table and jot down some notes. Get a feel of what I want to start with. Sounds ridiculous but I need to in order for me to properly grasp what I'm thinking and get it on to paper. Usually I make my notes then come on here and right paragraphs based on my notes lol. I will be back soon!

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Take your time!
When I do mine, I will go throught the chart for main themes and key topics first as well. Not necessarily jot notes, but just plan what to cover

posted December 14, 2011 10:46 AM            

The IC can represent your core being, your roots, your heritage, sometimes even your mother. Actually, I've noticed some strange correlations to the IC and the mother's ASC; or the most influential person throughout your life. My mother's ASC is in the same sign as my IC (Sag.), my boyfriend's grandmother's (raised him) ASC is exact conj. his IC. This is only a few examples, but you are not here for a lesson so I will get on with it! lol

Okay so your IC is in Leo. This could indicate being brought up in a classy and elegant environment. Pride was probably of great importance in your family; something you have carried with you throughout your life as an adult. Was your family too prideful? Maybe even boastful? Was your mother very warm hearted and loving toward you but was strict with her rules and became intolerant or bossy whenever you made a choice that did fit to your family standards or traditions? With your Leo IC and Aqua. MC maybe because of the patronizing and interfering tendencies of your mother (or whomever was most influential?) you strive to detach yourself from those suffocating conditions and be more tolerant of other traditions and attitudes. You want to be unbiased and open your mind to different ways of the world. Try and find YOUR way, your own beat so to say. This is all just based on assumption. I have a pretty good take on the angles but the IC is still something I am studying. My assumptions are based on what I have seen in my own chart as well as the charts of people I am closed to.

Venus conj. the IC.
The way you show affection can be deeply influenced by the way you were brought up. The positive influences like being warm-hearted and generous. Like me, with Venus in Leo, you love to shower your love with affection, confidence, and even compliments. You are very faithful and loving and will hold your lover on a pedestal. Despite wanting to be above the pettiness and possibly intolerant attitudes your family may possess, you still hold a high respect for your family and heritage and may choose a lover with similar family values. What do you think?

posted December 14, 2011 10:54 AM            

Venus ruling your ASC while being in Leo and conj. the Sun makes me think you are very beautiful, at least very pleasant to look at. You probably have a peaceful, serene, appearance with Taurus ASC.

posted December 14, 2011 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:

The IC can represent your core being, your roots, your heritage, sometimes even your mother. Actually, I've noticed some strange correlations to the IC and the mother's ASC; or the most influential person throughout your life. My mother's ASC is in the same sign as my IC (Sag.), my boyfriend's grandmother's (raised him) ASC is exact conj. his IC. This is only a few examples, but you are not here for a lesson so I will get on with it! lol

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no idea my mom's birth time, so cannot test.

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This could indicate being brought up in a classy and elegant environment. Pride was probably of great importance in your family; something you have carried with you throughout your life as an adult. Was your family too prideful? Maybe even boastful?

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My family is not rich, but still quite comfortable. Got to experience quite a bit of nice stuff (material wise) while growing up. I think my familyis not boastful, rather, I am proud & boastful of my family My mom n bro are not boastful, my dad is boastful of himself, not on family/heritage

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Was your mother very warm hearted and loving toward you but was strict with her rules and became intolerant or bossy whenever you made a choice that did fit to your family standards or traditions?

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Quite right. Never doubted her love, but she can be intolerant & bossy when I do not fulfil her standard (she's not as strict on my bro). And yes, she's the stronger influence of the 2 parents. Not sure those standards are hers or family's though. What she considered "common sense" and we should know, I only found out when I was much older that those were actually quite "uncommon" knowledge :P But I am glad I know them, cos now people like coming to me for answers.

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With your Leo IC and Aqua. MC maybe because of the patronizing and interfering tendencies of your mother (or whomever was most influential?) you strive to detach yourself from those suffocating conditions and be more tolerant of other traditions and attitudes. You want to be unbiased and open your mind to different ways of the world. Try and find YOUR way, your own beat so to say. This is all just based on assumption.

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I would not go as far to say suffocating, but there are in fact strong values from my parents that I still believe strongly in. But you are quite right in my quest for understanding of other traditions & values. Maybe cos I noticed how my family values are strong, and gradually realized as I grow older not everyone has the same values that I become more and more tolerant/open-minded to where they come from, even if I do not agree. ie agree to disagree. I love learning about geography, traditions and customs about other cultures though. I have thought it's because of strong 9H (if using equal house), but maybe Aqu MC has that too.

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Venus conj. the IC.
The way you show affection can be deeply influenced by the way you were brought up. The positive influences like being warm-hearted and generous. Like me, with Venus in Leo, you love to shower your love with affection, confidence, and even compliments. You are very faithful and loving and will hold your lover on a pedestal. Despite wanting to be above the pettiness and possibly intolerant attitudes your family may possess, you still hold a high respect for your family and heritage and may choose a lover with similar family values.

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Yup, I could see that in me. I am openly affectionate to people I love/like. For lover, well, yet to find the one. Nevertheless, I believe for marriage, it is a marriage between 2 families, not just individuals. Because that heritage makes up the individuals, and if my SO cannot respect (no need to agree totally, but at least respect) my heritage and reasonably get on with my family, hard for me to commit

posted December 14, 2011 10:07 PM            

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Venus conj. Sun in Leo/4th house.
Gives a very enthusiastic and excitable energy. You have strong self confidence that will shine as soon as your timid Taurus ASC becomes comfortable in a situation. You probably have a very bright and sunny disposition, showing a lot of pride and self respect (as you have been taught throughout your childhood?). Awe and see here, I am admiring you as well.
Your Leo influence is very positive and more obvious than mine. You probably always have a smile on your face. All of the great things you have valued from your family hold a strong influence over your being.

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hoho, most people who know about sun signs will not have problems placing me as a Leo. Yes, I think I have an obvious Leo sunny disposition. Always looking on the bright side. Taurus Asc makes me a bit more reserved when I am in serious environment that I am unfamiliar (e.g. business), but in casual friendly environment, I can strike up conversations with strangers quite easily.

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Venus ruling your ASC while being in Leo and conj. the Sun makes me think you are very beautiful, at least very pleasant to look at. You probably have a peaceful, serene, appearance with Taurus ASC.

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Hmmm...not quite sure about this one. I know I am not ugly, but still no where near beautiful. When very young, I had thick glasses, then when I could use contact lens, I was short and chubby. Now, of course I am still short, a bit less chubby, together with many of my peers getting a bit less slim. So I think I am aging reasonably well, and I feel confidence in my own looks improved over the years. iQ in another thread said it could be cos Aphrodite opp Venus, so I was not confident about my own attractiveness.

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As for Juno in Leo/4th house. All I've really read on Juno is the fact that it represents the partner you have versus who you would like to have. Is this true? If so I think this correlates well with your Venus in the 4th house. You want and will have a partner that represents the qualities of your heritage or at least someone who holds a great respect for them and is willing to combine that into their life as well. What do you think? I'm just guessing here...

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I'd be guessing too, since I am still searching, but I am inclined to think I prefer someone who values traditions and heritage and family.

posted December 14, 2011 10:10 PM            

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Sun trine Moon.
You are comfortable with your emotions. You can easily express your emotions. Your vitality is influenced my your emotions. Both luminaries are in fire signs giving you an added enthusiasm. Your instincts and reactions will compliment your character, so there shouldn't be much of an issue with you surprising others. People should know what to expect with you because you won't be going back and forth. I have the quincunx between my Sun and Moon so sometimes I come off as having an inferiority complex by not being comfortable with both sides of my personality.

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posted December 14, 2011 10:18 PM            

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Wow. Moon conj. Chiron in the 11th house.
I have Chiron in the 11th house and almost the entire time I went to school I was bullied and tormented for no apparent reason. It was all over my weight and being "ugly". I was never fat but not thin so I was called "shamu" or "fat **ore" which is humorous if you think about it because my current boyfriend is the only person I have ever been intimate with. It tore me apart. Years of torment like that, and I don't even mean name calling, I'm talking following me arond the school laughing at me. Big groups of boys. This went on for years.

Did stuff like this happen to you? Was your friendships sort of erratic and inconsistent?

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I was picked on by a few schoolmates when I was at school, and I got jealous of my best friends seemed to be better friends with others and sometime had the insecurity that they did not really like me. I noticed that people either liked me or disliked me (incl the teachers) and I so wanted to be liked by everyone (this could be the Moon sensitivity with Chiron)

However, over the years, these people remained fast friends, and I have learnt that different people have different chemistry (just look at synastry), I can never please them all. So I think I have faced the Chiron and done the healing.

posted December 15, 2011 08:04 PM            

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I wouldn't consider Venus to be conjunct the IC in your equal chart, the Sun is a bit closer to it but not conj.

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Actually, for equal chart, MC/IC do not change, but the 4H & 10H cusps change. See MC on that chart is in 9H? IC is opp MC in all cases, but not necessarily on 4H cusp depending on house system.

One reason I think equal house fits better is cos MC is in 9H rather than 10H, which seems to fit my career path better

posted December 15, 2011 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
I might overwhelm myself if I take on both. I will try to go back and forth whenever I catch something. Might stick to placidus for now and see where it takes me.If that is okay?

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Please do. Use whichever you are more comfortable with. I want to see if I have overlooked sth using Plac and that it does explain my chart as well, cos I have been using Plac until recently. Plac still fits many well/better. Need to figure out which to use when reading others' charts

posted December 17, 2011 07:15 PM            

Mars in Aquarius makes you hungry for new and fresh experiences. You have a strong drive for equality and freedom for all and will protest anyone or anything suggesting otherwise. This being placed in the career sector of your chart could give you drive to work in a humanitarian field. Does this apply to your career at all?

posted December 17, 2011 08:50 PM            

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Your Sun in Leo in 4th oppose your Mars in Aquarius in 10th.

Mars in Aquarius makes you hungry for new and fresh experiences. You have a strong drive for equality and freedom for all and will protest anyone or anything suggesting otherwise. This being placed in the career sector of your chart could give you drive to work in a humanitarian field. Does this apply to your career at all?

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Hungry for new & fresh experience, yes. As for strong drive for equality & freedom, I like to treat others fairly and I like my freedom and might verbally protest if I see unfairness, but not doing anything specific in that area though. Not in humanitarian field.

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Your strong drive for freedom and a more eccentric lifestyle is at odds with you strong loyalty and pride in your family and home. Do you feel pulls between sense of pride in family and your sense of freedom in career? Do you have to sacrifice time at home for work and/or vise versa?

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I need to work out-of-town, away from home a lot of times. I also have unusual hobbies that make me spend less time at home.

posted December 21, 2011 10:11 AM            

One of the first astro books I read stated (and I agree with) that the ASC is the psychological motivation. You may be motivated to acquire the finger things in life. Beautiful clothing, a nice, beautifally furnished home, nice cars,ect. Your self confidence may depend on your material possessions.

posted December 21, 2011 10:55 AM            

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Taurus ASC
Your approach to new things is cautious and careful. You are steady and take your time getting to know new people and environments. Possibly shy? With Taurus on the ASC combined with Venus (1st house ruler) in the fourth, there may be a tendency to stick with what you are comfortable with and used to.

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Yes, I am shy...for maybe 3 mins
I think the Leo in me shouts louder than the Taurus. I am quite adventurous in terms of hobbies as well as food etc. Like trying new things, but at the same time also value traditions and my own heritage.

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One of the first astro books I read stated (and I agree with) that the ASC is the psychological motivation. You may be motivated to acquire the finger things in life. Beautiful clothing, a nice, beautifally furnished home, nice cars,ect. Your self confidence may depend on your material possessions.

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Yup, like beautiful things and people, nice food and wine. Do enjoy my creature comforts.

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With Saturn in the first, you may be really hard on yourself and your appearance. Do you have a refined taste in clothes and accessories? I would think that you would always be in nice clothin. Likely to be very clean cut and proper.

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