posted January 03, 2012 04:28 PM            

hmm.. industries i've been in are food and fashion. my degree is in marketing and my current is at a holding company for shipping, mining, steel, property development, with some food thrown in.

mixing systems and some psychology..

Water and metal are my lucky elements.

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WATER
Cleaning Services, Temp/Recruitment Agencies, Healing Businesses, Beauty Industry, etc.

METAL
Banking/Financial/Accounting, Tech Industry, Government Offices, Architect offices, etc.

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INTJ
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTJ_car.html

posted January 04, 2012 04:45 AM            

Your MC is in Cancer (ruler moon in Leo in 10H) and given your MC is 29degrees, I tend to see your MC is really ruled by Sun, in 7H. So you might find your career in 7H pursuits. 7H is partnership, so you prolly would not work alone. 7H ruler Venus in in 7H and Taurus too! So I feel strongly you need a venusian career - beauty/luxury items. Your Moon in Leo 10H + Asc/Plu conj + Venus & Sun trine Jupiter, all points towards glamor/reputation/showbiz type characteristics.

posted January 04, 2012 12:16 PM            

i do like the timeline of projects. like you can give your all for a certain amount of time and have a full break after until the next one comes along.

campaign planning hmm.. well i have always wanted to be president/ prime minister! i asked a professional astrologer btw before if i could reach that position. he said finance minister at most (also something to do with country's natal and me not having strong aries). maybe the uranus in h2 gave him the idea of finance. my finance grades were only so so..

boring things like steel are okay with me if i can balance it out with a very social calendar. my moon would easily get depressed if it were just office and the people in the office gah!

posted January 04, 2012 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
thanks yuting! it would be hard to work alone coz i want big things. i know i hafta work with people if i want big. thing is i'm not the easiest boss.

campaign planning hmm.. well i have always wanted to be president/ prime minister! i asked a professional astrologer btw before if i could reach that position. he said finance minister at most (also something to do with country's natal and me not having strong aries). maybe the uranus in h2 gave him the idea of finance. my finance grades were only so so..
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Not easiest boss is ok, you just need to find good staff. But I really cannot see you following. If you have not yet reached a high position, you still need to have a job that you can have your own say. That's why I suggest project management work since within your project, you have more autonomy.

For campaign, I am thinking more about marketing campaign for luxury brands or things to do with beauty and comfort.

Social calendar is fine, but probably for you social activities are for purpose of heightening your reputation or progressing your career (your Leo moon is 10H, not 11H). So, another possibility within your current career context is public relations/corporate image/investor relations, and you can organize those PR events.

posted January 05, 2012 01:02 AM            

Wood is gd for me. I'm going thru 30yrs of wood now. Ironically I'm in a wood industry, wood position.

posted January 05, 2012 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Ooooo... water n metal yr lucky element? OOOoooer... u'll like me! I'm Gui water.

Wood is gd for me. I'm going thru 30yrs of wood now. Ironically I'm in a wood industry, wood position.

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water mostly is my lucky element but metal is okay too. i'm xin metal.

my pillars..

Ding Xin Ji Jia
You Chou Si Zi

wood is not so good for me. i have too much fire (job) pressure. it's seen in western too with the h10 moon under pressure from 2 t-squares. i love comparing the 2 systems!

BTW what's your opinion on the strength of my daymaster? alot can't seem to agree. i'm not born in season.

posted January 05, 2012 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Consumer Product Brand Management. I see your Jupiter is in House 3 of the home. I see your Mars is in House 1, and that you are a Venus and Sun in House 7. I see you as very much in tune with women and the home.

I also see you as a Management Consultant with expertise in Marketing.

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posted January 05, 2012 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by yuting:
But I really cannot see you following. If you have not yet reached a high position, you still need to have a job that you can have your own say. That's why I suggest project management work since within your project, you have more autonomy.

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haha that is true i am not the best follower!

good call on the project mgt.

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For campaign, I am thinking more about marketing campaign for luxury brands or things to do with beauty and comfort.

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ahh yes.. i guess i have always been on the right track except my mc is in cancer and the moon is conjunct it. my feelings towards career is rather "moody" and changeable. like i have days when it seems to fit perfectly and i can see why i am doing this type of job but then there are also days when i feel i should be doing something more important and making decisions that really matter in the way people live.

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Social calendar is fine, but probably for you social activities are for purpose of heightening your reputation or progressing your career (your Leo moon is 10H, not 11H). So, another possibility within your current career context is public relations/corporate image/investor relations, and you can organize those PR events.

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posted January 05, 2012 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i guess i have always been on the right track except my mc is in cancer and the moon is conjunct it. my feelings towards career is rather "moody" and changeable. like i have days when it seems to fit perfectly and i can see why i am doing this type of job but then there are also days when i feel i should be doing something more important and making decisions that really matter in the way people live.

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I tend to see your MC as more Leo, esp as you gain experience as time passes (characteristic of 29 degreee). In any case, yours should actually be easier transition as your Moon conj is for a Leo Moon. You might be moody, but Leo Moon cannot be moody too. Who says Leo Moon cannot be moody, they just do not let other see them. Actually, I would say that is more touchiness than moodiness. Leo has strong egos, so they can get touchy when things are not going well. They might manifest that as finding external excuses, eg the job/people/environment do not suit them (cos hard for them to admit they did not do sth well enough). But usually this touchiness is over quite soon, when sth/someone else can soothe their egos. But if it is Cancerian moodiness, the feeling will linger much longer, and the doubts will be quite strong. For Cancerian MC, likely will take a while for the person to get comfortable with a situation and to demonstrate confidence. For Leo-type, even when no really confident, the person will put on a brave face.

Which one do you identify with more?

posted January 05, 2012 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
water mostly is my lucky element but metal is okay too. i'm xin metal.

my pillars..

Ding Xin Ji Jia
You Chou Si Zi

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BTW what's your opinion on the strength of my daymaster? alot can't seem to agree. i'm not born in season.

alot can't agree to on chart structure whether it is warrior (pluto) or officer (venus) too.

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Are you Chinese? You seem to know quite a bit about bazi.

Btw, you are officer cos your mth is yang fire and your dayruler is yin metal.

From my limited experience, though you were born out-of-season, the base of 3 of your 4 pillars suppport your dayruler to some extent. Xin sits on chou (containing both metal & earth), this is very strong (next to moon ruler support). Moon ruler Si also contains some metal and earth, though main element is fire. Your hr base is pure metal. And next to your day ruler is Ji Earth. So you are actually pretty much right in the middle, maybe slightly on the strong side. That's why some say you dayruler is strong, and some say weak, cos it is essentially in the middle.

Because of this balance, most elements will neither greatly benefit you or hurt you if we are looking at the natal. The effect of the elements will change weighting according to luck cycles and year.

posted January 05, 2012 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
water mostly is my lucky element but metal is okay too. i'm xin metal.

my pillars..

Ding Xin Ji Jia
You Chou Si Zi

wood is not so good for me. i have too much fire (job) pressure. it's seen in western too with the h10 moon under pressure from 2 t-squares. i love comparing the 2 systems!

BTW what's your opinion on the strength of my daymaster? alot can't seem to agree. i'm not born in season.

alot can't agree to on chart structure whether it is warrior (pluto) or officer (venus) too.

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I'm a newbie... and I also have the problem of knowing the strength of my DM. Several says that I'm weak, one said strong. From the past luck pillars I've been through, I'll say I'm weak since I was unable to capture the wealth and I'm born out of season.

BUT the one that told me that I'm strong Water said that wood is my favourable element.. which ironically seems so as now I am in my 30 years of wood luck, which was better than before. Not fantastic yet but I'm at peace. So if wood is favourable, does it mean i'll a strong daymaster?

So... I'm equally confused.

posted January 05, 2012 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:

Ding Xin Ji Jia
You Chou Si Zi

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Xin sited on Chou/resource rooted in xin shouldn't be weak. Plus you have Ji rooted too. Jia-Ji also forms earth combi in HS... 7killing. OoooOoo.. Me too Eldest in family?

posted January 05, 2012 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by yuting:
I tend to see your MC as more Leo, esp as you gain experience as time passes (characteristic of 29 degreee). In any case, yours should actually be easier transition as your Moon conj is for a Leo Moon. You might be moody, but Leo Moon cannot be moody too. Who says Leo Moon cannot be moody, they just do not let other see them. Actually, I would say that is more touchiness than moodiness. Leo has strong egos, so they can get touchy when things are not going well. They might manifest that as finding external excuses, eg the job/people/environment do not suit them (cos hard for them to admit they did not do sth well enough). But usually this touchiness is over quite soon, when sth/someone else can soothe their egos. But if it is Cancerian moodiness, the feeling will linger much longer, and the doubts will be quite strong. For Cancerian MC, likely will take a while for the person to get comfortable with a situation and to demonstrate confidence. For Leo-type, even when no really confident, the person will put on a brave face.

Which one do you identify with more?

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posted January 05, 2012 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by yuting:
Are you Chinese? You seem to know quite a bit about bazi.

Btw, you are officer cos your mth is yang fire and your dayruler is yin metal.

From my limited experience, though you were born out-of-season, the base of 3 of your 4 pillars suppport your dayruler to some extent. Xin sits on chou (containing both metal & earth), this is very strong (next to moon ruler support). Moon ruler Si also contains some metal and earth, though main element is fire. Your hr base is pure metal. And next to your day ruler is Ji Earth. So you are actually pretty much right in the middle, maybe slightly on the strong side. That's why some say you dayruler is strong, and some say weak, cos it is essentially in the middle.

Because of this balance, most elements will neither greatly benefit you or hurt you if we are looking at the natal. The effect of the elements will change weighting according to luck cycles and year.

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yup i'm chinese! but nobody taught me bazi or anything. i just read up on it he same time i got interested in western astro.

thanks for that! no wonder my reader never discussed daymaster strength with me.

posted January 05, 2012 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:

Xin sited on Chou/resource rooted in xin shouldn't be weak. Plus you have Ji rooted too. Jia-Ji also forms earth combi in HS... 7killing. OoooOoo.. Me too Eldest in family?

Yep Chou-Si-you won't combine. Interested in your luck pillars to see if there is chance they will combine.

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hmm i can't see all the posts.. only saw urs now..

yup i guess i'm the eldest but only half sibings.

i don't remember having a combo but my reader wasn't big on element harmonies (might be a different system she uses) gold god/ commanding star stuff but still very accurate so i was content. i do know i will lead in my 40's 50's but might have problems with alcoholism hehe! rat-chicken clash i think.

hmm.. what else did she say?

she said i will never need money i think coz of something called gold god. but then some say i will never have enough due to the element balance. *shrug*

i think i have lotsa peach blossoms by luck period. 2 in the chart perhaps.

also told me flat out to not to get married hehe! but that's her interpretation.

posted January 05, 2012 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
sand,

Do you have an MBA? Perhaps you should head in that direction. The CPB world is heavy into your pat of the world (i.e., Asia ex-Japan), including J&J, P&G, Colgate, Estee Lauder, Avon, Revlon, Campbell, Kraft, etc. etc. You have both the ambition/drive, the creativity and the peoples skill (from what I've seen on here) to move up the marketing chain. Unfortunately, I'm a bean counter, so I'll stick to my numbers lol

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no not yet. i will tho eventually. i just don't want to go back to school yet lol! prefer to let my mind wander and learn whatever it wants for now.

posted January 05, 2012 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I'm a newbie... and I also have the problem of knowing the strength of my DM. Several says that I'm weak, one said strong. From the past luck pillars I've been through, I'll say I'm weak since I was unable to capture the wealth and I'm born out of season.

BUT the one that told me that I'm strong Water said that wood is my favourable element.. which ironically seems so as now I am in my 30 years of wood luck, which was better than before. Not fantastic yet but I'm at peace. So if wood is favourable, does it mean i'll a strong daymaster?

So... I'm equally confused.

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Paging master yuting hehe!