posted January 06, 2012 09:51 AM            

Hello All

I posted a similar question on another thread but Ceridwen kindly pointed out that I did the chart wrong so here is the right one. I had the wrong year but have kept the date and time of the question which I asked yesterday

Its about a man who I loved(and maybe I still do) but we have hurt each other to the extent that we may never see each other again

I cant ask him...he has always been and remains I think, a man who does not share his feelings easily...whatever they are

The pattern of the relationship however is that he always came back

Will I ever see him again? How does he feel about me and our situation? Will this change in the future?

posted January 07, 2012 07:16 AM            

Your significators are Mercury (as the ruler of first house), Moon is your co-significator and Venus is the significator of you as a woman.

His main significator is Jupiter (traditional ruler of 7th house) and Sun as the co-significator of him as a man.

Your main significator is in Sagittarius, ruled by his significator; this indicates that you are very interested in him.

Moon is in the detriment of Jupiter; I guess despite your link and attraction to him, your emotions are hurt.

Venus is in the detriment of Sun, another hint at you holding back, maybe because you feel insecure or hurt.

Are you still physically attracted to him?

From his perspective:
his main significator Jupiter is in Taurus, ruled by Venus (you as a woman) and the exaltation of Moon (your emotions). This seems to imply that there are still strong feelings for you.
It is also in the face of MErcury, your main significator, a minor reception, but with the other two combined, it seems to indicate that he still has a personal attachement to you, at least to your personality and mind.

Sun, his co-significator, is in Capricorn.
In the term of MErcury - a minor positive reception, indicating that on this level as well there is some connection. A certain affection is still there.

Sun is also in the triplicity of Venus - there is a certain affinity; he seems to like you as a woman. I guess a physical attraction is still present for him, even though it may not be as strong as if it were a recpetion over rulership or exaltation.

Unfortunately Sun is located in the sign of Moon`s (your emotions`s) detriment. Some would say this indicates dislike for you on an emotional level. Personally I find that not always to be true with the detriment, but it seems to always indicate emotional roadblocks. Even if he feels emotionally attached to you, he probably does not want to.
It seems that despite the attraction both of you are deeply hurt.

As for meeting again, keep in mind a horary has only a duration of 6 weeks I think.

Anyway, here it is where it is getting difficult.

Mercury is applying to a trine to Jupiter, so your main significators would connect, BUT it is an out-of-sign trine, and in horary only in-sign aspects are considered as far that I know. Though here it is such a close call, and Jupiter has JUST entered the new sign, so I am not sure, maybe that would be an exception and it still is considered an aspect?
If it is, it would indicate a clear YES to your question. If not, then no.

posted January 07, 2012 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I find this horary difficult to interprete, but let me give it a try anyway.

Your significators are Mercury (as the ruler of first house), Moon is your co-significator and Venus is the significator of you as a woman.

His main significator is Jupiter (traditional ruler of 7th house) and Sun as the co-significator of him as a man.

Your main significator is in Sagittarius, ruled by his significator; this indicates that you are very interested in him.

Moon is in the detriment of Jupiter; I guess despite your link and attraction to him, your emotions are hurt.

Venus is in the detriment of Sun, another hint at you holding back, maybe because you feel insecure or hurt.

Are you still physically attracted to him?

From his perspective:
his main significator Jupiter is in Taurus, ruled by Venus (you as a woman) and the exaltation of Moon (your emotions). This seems to imply that there are still strong feelings for you.
It is also in the face of MErcury, your main significator, a minor reception, but with the other two combined, it seems to indicate that he still has a personal attachement to you, at least to your personality and mind.

Sun, his co-significator, is in Capricorn.
In the term of MErcury - a minor positive reception, indicating that on this level as well there is some connection. A certain affection is still there.

Sun is also in the triplicity of Venus - there is a certain affinity; he seems to like you as a woman. I guess a physical attraction is still present for him, even though it may not be as strong as if it were a recpetion over rulership or exaltation.

Unfortunately Sun is located in the sign of Moon`s (your emotions`s) detriment. Some would say this indicates dislike for you on an emotional level. Personally I find that not always to be true with the detriment, but it seems to always indicate emotional roadblocks. Even if he feels emotionally attached to you, he probably does not want to.
It seems that despite the attraction both of you are deeply hurt.

As for meeting again, keep in mind a horary has only a duration of 6 weeks I think.

Anyway, here it is where it is getting difficult.

Mercury is applying to a trine to Jupiter, so your main significators would connect, BUT it is an out-of-sign trine, and in horary only in-sign aspects are considered as far that I know. Though here it is such a close call, and Jupiter has JUST entered the new sign, so I am not sure, maybe that would be an exception and it still is considered an aspect?
If it is, it would indicate a clear YES to your question. If not, then no.

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Thanks for this Ceridwen...Is there a way I may make the chart easier for you to read?
I am absolutely still interested in him and attracted to him, no one else compares and yes, we have hurt each other...and this may be why he dislikes me on the emotional level ...I have disliked him on that level as well

And he always commented on my mind, it was one of the things he liked about me I think

I was always unsure of myself and insecure around him as well

Yet I "feel" him when we are apart, at some level (soul level?) we connect or at least thats how I feel.

This means a lot to me Ceridwen, and many many thanks for sharing your knowledge with me

posted January 12, 2012 01:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It seems like out of sign aspects are actually valid.

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