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Wild Places
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posted January 10, 2012 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Ami and all synastry geniuses...

I'm posting my synastry chart with someone who no matter how many times I try -- I can't let go of. It's really painful, and I wish this tether between our hearts was gone...or at least synchronously timed: so often, only one of us wants to be together, while the other flat-out rejects in a most painful way the other's love.

We have a child together - and probably should never have separated...I just can't move on despite my numerous attempts to distract my heart with new attractions...Is there something in the stars? Or am I just a lunatic?

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Ami Anne
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posted January 10, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will look. I understand. Off the bat, I would say Nessus and deja, but we shall see.

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posted January 10, 2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the AC/IC & DC/MC is a very strong connection in synastry. It's pinpointed by exact time of birth and isn't as common.
Then you have Sun conj Vertex in synastry plus Sun conj your DC. He defintely has a strongest effects on you. What does your composite look like?

Vertex is such a sensitive part of synastry. Fated and what not. You will always be in each other's hearts...maybe not openly, but always there even if not romantically.

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posted January 10, 2012 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Nessus conjunct your Moon. I had Nessus conj my Sun. There are no words for it!

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posted January 10, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is INTENSE . IT has it all Pholus, Lilith, Uranus
Man, it must have been hard !

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Wild Places
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posted January 11, 2012 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by birdy:
the AC/IC & DC/MC is a very strong connection in synastry. It's pinpointed by exact time of birth and isn't as common.


Then you have Sun conj Vertex in synastry plus Sun conj your DC. He defintely has a strongest effects on you. What does your composite look like?

Vertex is such a sensitive part of synastry. Fated and what not. You will always be in each other's hearts...maybe not openly, but always there even if not romantically.


Dear Birdy -

What can you tell me about the AC/IC and DC/MC conjunctions in Synastry? I'll post our composite shortly...

Thank you!

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Wild Places
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posted January 11, 2012 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It still is hard! I can't shake it...I mean, I know there are lots of people out there who have kids together, split up, and move on...we just keep coming back to eachother - only to have each time more devastating than the other...

I keep hoping for a miracle...I just want to have my whole family under one roof again. Why is that too much to ask?!

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posted January 11, 2012 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite chart:

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Ami Anne
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posted January 11, 2012 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I trust the synastry more than the Comp cuz the synastry is actual.

This is just "Wow". I understand, from the heart, how that is. I will go over it and you tell me what you think.

First off, your Kaali conjuncts his vertex. I have never seen this. kaali is your Kundalini energy. I will some info. You know what this is, I am sure.

Well, your DEEPEST energy hits his fated point, the vertex. You bring your energy, the deepest part of yourself, to him. I am wondering if he was a sort of "vampire" on you.

What do you think?
Did he literally suck your energy?

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posted January 11, 2012 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kaali Asteroid
By amiann | Published: December 21, 2011 | Edit

This asteroid is our basic, most primal energy called Kundalini energy. What it touches in our natal chart is important as our energy will be melded with it. In synastry, it gets even more complicated especially if your Kundalini energy touches someone’s dark asteroid(s) One can see abuse if someone’s Kaali conjuncts a persons Hekate, for example, as was the case in a child who was abused by her mother. Hekate is the shadow self. Kaali is Kundalini energy. If the mother did NOT own her shadow self, it would have been energized by the Kundalini energy and hurt her child, which it did. If a person has Pluto conjunct Kaali, the person can have great power in his passions, as Pluto is one’s passions. Kaali gives energy to what it touches. If Kaali touches something dark like Nessus, one may be very abusive as Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser. Kaali works in this way, in my experience.
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posted January 11, 2012 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will look at the Comp, later.

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posted January 11, 2012 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of sucking my energy - he does now...despite greatest hopes and best efforts I feel depressed when we're together most of the time (we argue often, power struggles, he seems so intent on being right rather than understanding and getting along)...however, I also wonder if this placement has to do with how amazing the energy exchange is between us when not bogged down. Intensely spiritual, sexual, and nurturing. Plus we had our daughter together, which definitely required my highest energy! She has an interesting conjunction with my Kaali too...can't recall just now.

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posted January 11, 2012 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bumpers...that Kaali/Vertex thing has me really curious. the whole relationship has me in a heartbroken quandary.

womp womp womp...

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birdy
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posted January 12, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first instinct is he's not healthy emotionally for you. Something about it feels off. The fact you have a child together is very significant but I feel like you feel more stronger than he does and always will.


Heres more about the IC/MC, etc connection: http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/13/synastry-studies-the-mcic-part-two-aspects-and-inter-aspects/

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posted January 12, 2012 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh birdy -

Your instincts are right. Tonight he told me he wished I would walk away. I wish I would too...it's demoralizing to be rejected on this level so many times. I've always had more pride than this - and don't let myself get super wrapped around the axle (years we're talking here) over someone.

I'm going to read that article - thank you SO much!
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posted January 12, 2012 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wild Places:
In terms of sucking my energy - he does now...despite greatest hopes and best efforts I feel depressed when we're together most of the time (we argue often, power struggles, he seems so intent on being right rather than understanding and getting along)...however, I also wonder if this placement has to do with how amazing the energy exchange is between us when not bogged down. Intensely spiritual, sexual, and nurturing. Plus we had our daughter together, which definitely required my highest energy! She has an interesting conjunction with my Kaali too...can't recall just now.

Love,
WP



YES good point about Kaali with all levels of energy!

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posted January 12, 2012 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Learning from all of you about these asteroids and angles does help in a two-fold way:

A) it takes me out of my Cancer Moon and into my Aqua Merc to understand and analyze it - therein lies compassion and expansion.

B) understanding the dynamics allows me to take a big picture view, and nurture myself with the best of my Cancer Moon and Saturn in Virgo connected.

Oh heck, let's face it - it doesn't make it terribly better when my ego longs for what I can't have - but everything you all teach me and the time you all share helps me step out of my ego.

Thank you all!

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posted January 12, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Uranus conjuncts his NN. The theme of the relationship for both of you is great changes and "instabilty" and erratic ups and downs. This would not be a "doom" theme just a very, electrical, atypical relationship. Uranus is the planet of genius, new inventions and rebellion from norms, in the best of ways, too.

You bring the Uranus, so you are the one bringing this energy to both of you.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami - I just noticed three things:

His Pholus conjuncts my Juno exactly the same as our daughter (smacking my head, you've got to be kidding?!)

His Nessus conjunct my Moon - what is the significance?

My Lilith conjunct his Dejan

These asteroids...

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posted January 12, 2012 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Uranus conjuncts his NN. The theme of the relationship for both of you is great changes and "instabilty" and erratic ups and downs. This would not be a "doom" theme just a very, electrical, atypical relationship. Uranus is the planet of genius, new inventions and rebellion from norms, in the best of ways, too.

You bring the Uranus, so you are the one bringing this energy to both of you.


Oh...he would agree with you entirely! Ha! Most separations have been 'my fault' (actually, all of them) according to him. I understand why he sees things this way - I'm radical, dynamic, and when things were at their worst nearly two years ago now, I demanded we seek counseling to improve them. He must, in response to my Uranus energy, fall into his South Node comfort zone...he tells me he feels stronger without me. It's awful to have this effect on someone you love so much and have family with.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, sounds like a tragic novel


I will come back and look at the other aspects you mentioned, in a little bit.

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posted January 12, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had the worst dream ever...he was here. I couldn't move or speak. He left me all over again.

This really is the stuff of Shakespearean fodder.

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posted January 12, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wild Places:
I just had the worst dream ever...he was here. I couldn't move or speak. He left me all over again.

This really is the stuff of Shakespearean fodder.



These synastries with Nessus etc are intense! xxxx

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posted January 12, 2012 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*I* think these intense synastries are repeats of our childhood. I don't believe in past lives, as many on here, do, so I do not add that, to the mix.

I m relationship with the exact nessus/deja, I felt I would die without him, as if breath could not stay in my body. How could it just be him? It had to be something deeper, such as my relationship with my mother, where I almost did die

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Wild Places
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posted January 12, 2012 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Places     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just did my own test of two asteroids, not knowing what they mean in astrology; but knowing the mythology well...

My Eurydice is conjunct EXACT his Orpheus...

I'm sure these two asteroids have been explored here before - but here is the myth from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurydice

also...
http://www.greecegreek.com/Mythology/orpheus-eurydice.html

We really are the stuff tragedies are made of...

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