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posted January 12, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WILL HUBBY RETURN TO MY LIFE SOON nd we will be a couple again ?


tHNK U CERIDWEN..i hope i did right....
this si the only thing on my mind 24*7.... because it has been so sudden and unexpected. i really cant eat/ do ANYTHING except for thinking about him nd him nd praying that he comes back..hmmm..plz put some light on wt u see...nd never mind hard declarations... i think they would just make me stronger to accept wts coming

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posted January 12, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bumping for Ceri and Hera

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posted January 12, 2012 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, let`s see, the Scorpio ASC reflects your current state of mind very well, that intense and maybe even almost obsessive thinking of him. So I think it definitely is the right time here.


Your significator is Mars in Virgo (peregrine, which means has not much strength to act).

Your co-ruler is Moon in Virgo (another sig in Virgo, remind me that we have to find out what Mercury represents in this chart).

Both your sigs are peregrine; it almost looks as if you are wandering far from home.

Your husband`s significators are Venus in Aquarius (conjunct Neptune - he probably does not see things too clearly at the moment).

And Sun in Capricorn.

Neither of you have strong placements here, so your ability to act freely might be somehow blocked.


Your sig`s Mars and MOon are both in Virgo,w hich shows that whatever represents Mercury is extremely important for you. But Mercury is not representing your husband! So who or what is it that "rules" you?

Mercury is in the 3rd house conjunct Pluto, and rules the 8th house - I think this represents the passionate intense obsessive (Pluto) tinking (Mercury in 3rd house) about your marriage (8th house).
It completely consumes you at the moment.
(This is an indicator that we indeed have the right chart and significators, as this confirms what you have already written).

But how are your feelings for your husband?
Virgo is the fall of Venus (his significator).
Your feelings have received a considerable blow. Sometimes the fall means that one does not like the others. But often it also can indicate that the inability to act on ones feelings make one feel very miserable.
(detriment would be more a sign of dislike)


What about him?

Venus is in Aquarius and doesn`t receive you.
Sun is in Capricorn in the detriment of Moon, but in the exaltation of Mars. This is weird, detriment is the worst (dislike), exaltation is an indicator for enthusiastic passionate love or admiration. lol
When it comes to the emotional-sexual connection, he is conflicted. He loves you totally, and yet doesn`t like you. Since only Sun receives you, it could be that his feelings are predominantly sexual in nature. At least for now. Maybe he doesn`t show what he really feels, he is holding something back for some reason.


What I find a bit worrying is this:
Venus and Sun are both ruled by Saturn, and even more so there is a mutual reception, as Saturn in Libra loves Venus as well. (it does not love Sun so much though).

Also Venus is applying to a very exact trine to Saturn. It is so exact that there is probably no way you can prohibit that meeting.

I wonder what orw ho Saturn is.
In the worst case, well, could it be that he met someone else?
Though you probably would not know, as Saturn is in your 12th house, hidden from view.
Either this is another woman or an obligation (family? work?) that is consuming him totally.

Saturn rules his 9th house - is he abroad? are you separated by geographical distance?

Either way, the connection between Venus and SAturn is very strong here.

But I was speaking too prematurely!
As a matter of fact Sun is in a very exact trine to Mars. And as I had just mentioned, Sun LOVES Mars.
It is the tightest aspect of all, so it is a strong indicator for YES.

But let`s check what Moon is doing as her aspects usually highlight the course of events.

Her first aspects it trine to MErcury.
So either you meet someone new (a MErcurial person you totally adore), or, and that seems more likely, and I hope it is true, there will be communication.


The last aspects of Moon actually will be a conjunction to Mars and trine to Sun, again connecting your sigs, but there is kind of a hole between 6 and 22 degrees.
I think it maybe could mean that there will be a contact, and then there will be an extended silent period, but after a while, he is going to approach you again.

Also before long Venus will move into Pisces, where he is in the triplicity of Mars, so his feelings for you will get stronger again I think.

All in all I think there are fairly good chances of reconciliation, at least if he is signified by Sun as I think. But I would like other people input on this as well.

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posted January 13, 2012 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had ami in my hug , i extend out one arm , to give u a hug and now , arent we three hugging each other hehe...
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saturn in 9th > long distance...Very true..he is abroad


thank u so so much for such elaborated analysis i really needed it at the moment

sure , lets see what others say .. i saw Hera coming around in PR for few days...

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posted January 13, 2012 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
But let`s check what Moon is doing as her aspects usually highlight the course of events.

Her first aspects it trine to MErcury.
So either you meet someone new (a MErcurial person you totally adore), or, and that seems more likely, and I hope it is true, there will be communication.


hmm..does that mean that person would hav a Gemini sun or ascendant ??

my husband has a gemini ascendant with piscean sun , mars , venus ( hehe, so much in Pisces...super cutie and puzzling me )

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posted January 13, 2012 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I had ami in my hug , i extend out one arm , to give u a hug and now , arent we three hugging each other hehe..."
LOL


"another woman in his life??? hidden from me ???"
It`s only one possibility though. It is just that it seems as if something keeps him occupied, and that is hidden from you.
Saturn falls into his 6th house, so it could also be healthrelated, BUT Venus and Saturn are in strong dignities and trine,s o I`d rather think it is something positive for him.
Saturn rules his 9th and 10th house - I guess this is significant. Maybe it has to do with his work and workplace? A promotion?

his sister would be the 3rd house from his 4th house I think. And that is actually the 12th house of this chart!!!
So, yes, it could be indeed his sister.

mercury person ? lolz, now where do i find this mercury person from ?haha..j/k


on /off > yes , it has been like that only


a contact again and reconciliation ? > omg... i would be the happiest person literally dancing here in the forum at that time..if that happens , i mean (its nothing clear on the positive side, has more chances on the negative side)

he confused about me > very true...i feel the same , like as if he is holding back smthing for some reasons .


@ my novice attempt at horary > after putting it up , i just tried like this , i am represented by pluto coz it rules scorpion and moon . he is house 7th , in taurus , so venus and sun are his co significators . i soo wanna learn horary , but i think its tough

thank u so so much for such elaborated analysis i really needed it at the moment

sure , lets see what others say .. i saw Hera coming around in PR for few days...

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posted January 13, 2012 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww CERIDWAN ,

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posted January 13, 2012 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was messing up. Of course his sister would be 3rd from 7th house, so his sister is signified in 9th house. So forget about it.


What about 11th huose?
Is this about who Mercury is


Well, you are Mars in Virgo (because the ruler of 1st house is your significator, and that is Mars).
Your Co-ruler is Moon in Virgo (Moon is co-ruler of the querent).

Both your significator are posited in Virgo; Mercury is the natural ruler of Virgo, thus you are ruled by Mercury, because your significators are in Mercury`s sign. It means that Mars and Moon (you) are very interested or even love whatever Mercury represents.

So what DOES Mercury represent?
Well, one way to approach that is to look for the natural symbolism: Mercury as a pupil, sibling, communication etc.
Another way to approach that is to see what house Mercury rules. This will tell us what you are interested in. And Mercury rules the 11th house (Virgo) and the 8th house (Gemini).

BTW there is also a very strong mutual reception between Mars and Mercury here.
Mars is in Virgo, and is ruled by Mercury, so Mars (you) loves Mercury or is at least very interested.
Mercury is in Capricorn, the sign of Mars exaltation. This shows that Mercury is completely besotted with / infatuated with Mars (you).


It does not need to be a person necessarily, it could also be communication, a message or something like that.
Though we cannot exclude the possibility that this might be a person, especially since the 11th house, which Mercury rules, represents friends.

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posted January 13, 2012 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww..again thnk u fr such explanation

as for the time being , i think its a communication or message thing...coz am nt talkign to ANY friends right now , and dnt want to spill beans among them...and also , have no one else in my life who can ever substitute him...hehe...but lets see what happens

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@ mars..oh yeah , am so sorry... i thought pluto is the ruling planet of scopion (my ASC)... just googled now to know that its mars and pluto combined..
aww...thx honeybunch

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yeah , lately i hv been thinking may be job is the biggest stress in a person's life

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posted January 13, 2012 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually no, it is ONLY Mars that rules the ASC- in horary only traditional planets are considered as houserulers.

BUT of course i am aware of that modern astrolgoers sometimes tend to bend the rules.
I have done so, too, in the beginning. But it turned out that using the transpersonal ones as houserulers delivered wrong results. So at least or horary I leave it as it is. It is a very rigid branch of astrology honestly.

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posted January 13, 2012 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nd OMG .. i would be super happy if he successfully is able to find another job.... i hate the present one..lolz, we both do ... a promotion..wow.... i just did a horary..was trying my hand at it about his job... nd i got the following , which i hope i interpreted right and feel its somthing positive..

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posted January 13, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dnt even know wt all i colelcted from the chart is true....am daily googling and trying to know the terminology...i read Linda's sun signs and lvoe signs and lil bit of numerology longggggg while ago...nd this december , with my problem on the hand , am getting hooked to it ! wow..

thx for that mars explanation dear

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posted January 13, 2012 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is hard to follow without having a visual chartimage to relate to.

"1. I was in first house in Gemini , that means , ruled by mercury
and co significator would be moon
moon was in virgo in 4th house (virgo has natural ruler as mercury)"
Yes, Mercury in Capricorn and Moon in Virgo would be your significators.
Which means that you would like Saturn (Mercury is ruled by Saturn) and Mars (Mars is exalted in Capricorn). And your Moon would like Mercury.


"2. he ws in 7th house in Sagit ..so ruler would be Jupiter
plus , sun is his co significator
sun was in capricorn in 8th house"
Yes. Though Sun is only taken as sig for men, if the question is about a relationship. If you are asking if he is going to be promoted, his sig will be Jupiter and that is it.

"3. mercury- jupiter were forming trine"
Yes, but it is a separating aspect, so the trine would be in the PAST; you are interested in the present and future though.
That is why only applying aspects are being considered for the judgement of a question in horary.

"mercury moon were again in trine"
Depends.
Mercury is on 7 Cap, if Moon was on a degree 7 + Virgo, it would have been a separating aspect, already over.


"4. moon is goign to form trine with sun , is few degrees away at the moment"
Yes. But also check if there are other planets wich might have a tighter applying aspect to Sun or Moon. These could act as prohibiting the contact.

"5.sun is moving out of a square with jupiter (i hope i read it right)"
Sun is around 21 Capricorn, Jupiter is on 00 Taurus. They actualyl are moving out of a trine, but this has been ages ago (21 degrees to be exact). Sun is the faster planet so we have to check what it is applying to.
In this case Sun slowly applies to a square to Saturn on 28 Libra, but before that it will trine Mars I think. Unless it already passed it.

BTW it is said that you cannot pose the same question more than once in a reasonable timespan (a month I think). Unless the follow up question is needed for clarification.
But it doesn`t work, if you just did not like the first chart or want to check it again with another chart. The subsequent charts will get muddier and muddier and will not have any significance.

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posted January 13, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg.. i never got to understand what it meant to coming out of an aspect and so... u explained it perfectly with the trine example.....awwwwwwwwwww... thnk u


i had saved the chart...but was reluctant to post it here...coz i thought it would be annoying to ask so many questions , more so when i know everyone around hav a lot of people to give their help to and also hav certain personal duties at home..... didnt want to feel like really selfish with so many questions....

but now , am gonna put it here thank u Ceri give help first to those who really need it more... u can alws come back to me after that... no worries the first reading has already been so great for me.

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posted January 13, 2012 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ask as much as you want, as far as I am concerned. Ceri, this is fascinating. I bet one could get obsessed with horary

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posted January 13, 2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the question i had put at that time while getting this chart as a result was > when will hubby get his new job.....this was the exact one..obviously , it meant , when will he end his old one to shift it to the new one, sicne i know , he would never end the first one without already having the second in his hand....and yeah , we r both unhappy with the first job...its a good paying job , bt its very stressful and we both (At that time) used to wish it would be great if he finds something equally good payng but more interesting...

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posted January 13, 2012 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ami > o hi sweetheart :P ....how was ur day ? (or has it just started? goodlk with that then

very true.. its amazing...and very very difficult... once am over this hubby-me thing , am sure gonna get some books and start reading it... am so poor at it , i know i would need a lot many years to JUST START UNDERSTANDING it (forget about predicting outcomes)....

hehe , am already obsessed with sm1 (him)these days , so as my obsession is going these days , i wish i dnt get obsessed with smthing ( horaries)

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posted January 13, 2012 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
may i plz bump it !

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posted January 13, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I bet one could get obsessed with horary


You think?


Joke aside. I always stayed away from it cause it seemed so rigid and "medieval" to me. But it IS fascinating. And in a way it helps me keep touch with the "basics".

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posted January 13, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Ceri
Well, I can see someone doing Horary, over and over. How accurate do you think Horary is on a scale from 1-10?

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posted January 13, 2012 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are 1st house (and Moon), your husband is 7th house. And your husband`s house would be the 10th house from the 7th, so the actual 4th house.

Your husband`s significator is Venus in Aquarius.
His new job`s sg is Saturn in Libra. Both are in mutual reception and tightly trine each other.
WOW! This looks VERY positive. It is a strong YES testimony.
Timing is always difficult, but it could be one month.

The next aspect of Moon (course of events)is a trine to Mercury, ruler of your husband`s 2nd house, which represents his money (among other thngs).

Looks good to me.

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posted January 13, 2012 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

honestly I have no idea.

I would take it with a grain of salt, but I have others seen it do so amazingly well.

Two examples:
Some years ago, when I was busy on Kim Falconers board, I had misplaced my creditcard, and I pulled a horary chart (yes I did )
She interpreted it and gave me a clear direction where to look. And sure enough it really was where I found it!
She even described the interieur and chaos / order of my bureau!


And some months ago, I was asking about a guy, and Hera interpreted the chart for me, and mentioned that I would be seeing him again in a certain time.
I had to tell her at that time,t hat it was not possible to see him at the time she had calculated.
I was being proven wrong. Shortly before the time arrived, suddenly an opportunity fell into my lap, and I DID see him. Hera had the timing down to the DAY!
I mean how is that even possible?


But for myself, well, I am learning (and whenever i am learning, I am compulsively driven. Jupiter in 3rd - what can I say? ) and I am bound to make mistakes.
So even if my horaries will turn out wrong, it does not mean horary is crap itself, but maybe I just made a mistake. Though I will have to read a lot more before coming to a final conclusion about my stance on it.
So far I am pretty amazed by it. lol

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posted January 14, 2012 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AWW thank u ladies...nd yeah ami , sm1 else (not here) , also predicted it will be within half to one and half month....i wish that happens hugs...

nd if my ex (lolz, am no more gonna call him hubby , cz he dsnt seem to be cmng back and am fed up with all this begging nd crying stuff while he grows more rigid) is somehow on some talkign terms with me , i will sure get to know and we'll hav smthing to share here

aww ladies , u uplift my spirits in such hard times... thnks

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posted February 04, 2017 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, thank you everyone for having helped me in my worst phase 5 years back.

5 years brought about a lot of clarification so I bumped into this thread and wanted to give a feedback for CERI s reading.

We never got on ttalking terms after that...we talked only once after i posted this thread. And after a long silence, we divorced after 2 years. For another 2 years after that, i kept wondering what exactly had gone wrong. There were many reasons I used to convince myself. However, coz he almost simply disappeared, and I never got a closure, I had to be satisfied wid those convincing excuses.

And after 4 years, my best friend, who i had been running away from after my breakup ( coz i cuf off woth everyone i knew) , reconnected and funny how she knew the reason behind my breakup.

So ceri, u were right. When i was writing this thread and u were decoding the chart , he had actually already met someone and was living with her and had got job in the next city.


Funny how life unfolds its mysteries...but amazimg how u figured out that 'other person'

Cheers !

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