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lilithpluto
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posted January 14, 2012 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, this is my first attempt at horary chart!! Many thanks!!!

Question: Should I give up on him or do we have a future?

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Ceridwen
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posted January 14, 2012 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I just had a flashback. I dreamed of you. Well seeing your username at least. But there was another one with a very similiar name, Lilith2Pluto (or something like this), but it was a different user. *scratches head* Not sure why I recalled that now or why I dreamed of your username.


You are Sun, Moon and Venus.
He is Saturn (we cannot give him sun,a s this is your main ruler).


Sun in Capricorn is in the sign of Saturn - so you clearly love him.
Moon in Virgo has no strong dignities to Saturn.
Venus inn Pisces is in the face of Saturn, a very minor dignity.

But this is interesting Venus has just left the sign where it was ruled by Saturn (loved Saturn). Did your interest in him fade a bit recently? Maybe due to some frustration?

Moon will soon move into Libra though, the exaltation of Saturn, so you will still be besotted with him, at least in an emotional way.
So the sexual interest might not be so strong anymore.


Saturn is on the last degree of Libra, where it loves Venus, but is in the fall of Sun. His interest in you might predominantly be laced with sexual attraction, though it might not necessarily be deeper than that, at least at the moment.


His sig as well will change signs, into Scorpio, where it is in the detriment of Venus, and in the fall and in the fall of MOon. I fear this means he will definitely lose interest.

Actually with so many planets changing signs or just having changed signs, the status quo cannot be maintained, and I fear it does not look like you have a future.

but let us check for aspects.

Venus has just separated from a trine to Saturn - so your love-affair seems to be a thing of the past.

Sun WILL have an aspect to Saturn though; a square. Things will get very bumpy and challenging, but at least there is contact.
I am just not sure if it will be worth it; if it will continue then there could be a decided imbalance between your love for him and his sexual attraction to you. But with all these changing signs, I donīt know. Within a short while you might not even want a future with him anymore, if h doesn`t reciprocrate your love equally.

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lilithpluto
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posted January 14, 2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many thanks Ceridwen!!

Yep, your right, my interest is fading in recent days. Just a bit of hard to get over only. Sexual interest decreased tremendously - happens whenever I am falling out of love... but yes, I still love him emotionally kinda in a hard to move on type of way.

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Within a short while you might not even want a future with him anymore, if h doesn`t reciprocrate your love equally.

Very true. This is what I know I will be.

Speaking of contact... will you know when that will be or if it will be him or me making the contact?

Many thanks!

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lilithpluto
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posted January 14, 2012 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow, I just had a flashback. I dreamed of you. Well seeing your username at least. But there was another one with a very similiar name, Lilith2Pluto (or something like this), but it was a different user. *scratches head* Not sure why I recalled that now or why I dreamed of your username.


Wow... you dreamt of me? hehehe... maybe you knew I will get you soon to look at my horary chart?

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Ceridwen
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posted January 14, 2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Yep, your right, my interest is fading in recent days. "
I am so relieved to hear that, for two reasons.
A selfish one first, because I find it reassuring that I was right.

But also because so it will be easier for you, when you really part ways.


"but yes, I still love him emotionally kinda in a hard to move on type of way."
I think there could be also a bit of nostalgia involved.


"peaking of contact... will you know when that will be or if it will be him or me making the contact?"

That is very hard to tell. I mean there are calculations and tables and stuff for that, and Hera had it down so well in my chart, but I am very hesitant with these things. But I am giving it a try anyway.


Sun is about 5 degrees away from Saturn - so the number would be 5x.
Sun is in a cardinal sign and a mutable house.
This relates to months or weeks.

Sun is applying to Saturn, so Sun is probably making the contact.

Judging from this you probably will be initiating contact with him in 5 months or 5 weeks (I guess weeks is more likely), or you will run into him.
He is in your 3rd house, so it could also be over mail or telephone or chat or in some every-day life situation.

The aspect being a square, it will not be smooth or harmonious.

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lilithpluto
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posted January 14, 2012 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But also because so it will be easier for you, when you really part ways.

Yeah, your right. he's not good for me. He broke my heart..

I can swear tat I won't be making the contact.. but can't tell if 5 weeks or 5 months down the road i may feel less determination to avoid him.

Another favour... if it is not too much of a bother to you... do you look at natal transits and progressed charts?

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Ceridwen
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posted January 14, 2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WEll, he clearly is not good for you. And you always have a choice. Seems you already have made yours and now you just have to stick with it.


I generally look at transits and progressed charts, but quite honestly, I donīt have the energy to do so now. Besides I am so focused on horary charts and synastries at the moment, that there is not much brain-space for anything else.
But I guess I should put these charts aside for a while to cure my headache, I have been ignoring since yesterday. But surprisingly ignoring it does not make it go away.

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lilithpluto
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posted January 14, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just deleted and blocked him for the umpteen time I really hope I stick with it for good this time. I blame the venus-pluto double whammy bet us together with the other lust/union/valentine asteriods aspects etc.

Understand your tired.. will check back with you another time I just am interested to know when will the next guy appear so I can totally move on for good.

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Ceridwen
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posted January 14, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know that you can cast a horary chart for any question, so you could be asking for if a new relationship is on the horizon, too.

Progressions and transits could also highlight potential timeframes, but it is never for certain.
For ex. I had pr ASC conjunct Venus for the last 2 years, and did not start a relationship, though other Venusian things def. were triggered.

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