posted January 14, 2012 11:12 PM            

Question: Will there be a new relationship on the horizon, when will that be and where will i meet him?

posted January 15, 2012 10:30 AM            

Anongrl10

posted January 15, 2012 10:31 AM            

Both, DESC and Moon, are JUST out of orbs for being on the fixed star VINDEMATRIX, the star of "widowhood" (separation).
If you had asked that question just 2 minutes later, it would have influenced it all!
But as it is, I think it is out of the question, which is good.

The ruler of the ASC is in Virgo in 6th house; I have read that the ruler of the ASC often indicates what is REALLY on the querent`s mind; though even though emotionally you want a new relationship very much (Moon in Libra on DESC - two very strong testimonies for that), Virgo/ 6th house issues seem to be prominent for you as well.

So your significators are:
Mars in Virgo in 6th house
Moon in Libra in 7th house

Let`s see what that means for you individually.
First of all Mars is peregrine in Virgo with not much possibilities to act.

Moon is in Libra in the detriment of Mars.
There is a real war going on inside of you. Your emotions are not in tune with your thinking (Mars in Virgo is yuor thinking), even though emotionally you are so interested in a relationship, it is clear to see. But your head remains sceptical after the most recent emotional blow.

Anyway let us see what your significators would be interested in.

Mars is ruled by Mercury, in the exaltation of Mercury, and in the face of Mercury.
So whatever Mercury signifies we can be very sure, you are totally interested in it; the two strongest receptions plus one minor reception show that.

Moon is in the exaltation and triplicity of Saturn - two strong recpetions to Saturn.

So in any case you are interested in Mercury and Saturn.

(Not yet sure what these mean, but a potential lover would need to "beat" these strong receptions .

Your potential future partner is signified by:
Venus in Pisces
Sun in Capricorn

Venus in Pisces is exalted, showing a good position for him.
Venus also falls into your 11th house, showing your hopes and wishes.

So what is he interested in:
Well Venus is ruled by Jupiter.
(that is interesting you both are interested in the respective 3rd house ruler, maybe siblings / neighbourhood or even communication like mailing or internet would play a role for the two of you).

Venus is also in the face of Saturn, though this is a minor dignity. Saturn rules his 5th house - so there is a vague interest in romance from his side.

Sun is ruled by Saturn, which shows that his man would have a very healty sexual appetite. lol This is so because Sun describes his "animal/ hormonal" side, and is very interested in the ruler of his turned 5th house of romance, fun and sex.

But let`s see if you are interested in each other. In the next post.

posted January 15, 2012 10:33 AM            

What`s that about.
The chart I started interpreting had ASC on 8 Aries. Where did it go?

posted January 15, 2012 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Lilith, hi!
Are you better?
I just recalled that you had sent me your chart and never got back to you as I fell sick!
I'm better now but swamped!
If you like, please remind me again via email. Otherwise, I can easily forget it. You have no idea how many balls I have in the air. Just remind me in a couple of days or so if you are still interested and waiting for it.

Anongrl10

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posted January 15, 2012 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Moon is on the DESC in Libra, very indicative of your emotional yearning for a new relationship, a true partnership between equals.

Both, DESC and Moon, are JUST out of orbs for being on the fixed star VINDEMATRIX, the star of "widowhood" (separation).
If you had asked that question just 2 minutes later, it would have influenced it all!
But as it is, I think it is out of the question, which is good.

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posted January 15, 2012 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You changed the chart. Hu?

What`s that about.
The chart I started interpreting had ASC on 8 Aries. Where did it go?

BTW you cannot ask the same question twice a day, it will render the second chart invalid. So what is the first chart to that question?

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Oh? I din know that? I thought the chart "expired" since you did not answered so I have to get a new one.

the first chart... v. sorry.

posted January 15, 2012 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
thanks. This one has much better receptions anyway.

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Many thanks!!! I feel so much happier after you replied!! Gonna have great sleep and sweet dreams tonight.

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And whenever you have cast the chart for a question, it stands. Even if you will interprete it 20 years later. And you cannot cast it again.

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posted January 15, 2012 11:28 AM            

This is a mixed recpetion; the fall positions often is associated with loathing, while triplicity indicates very warm feelings. I have found that if there are positive AND negative receptions to the same significator, it might more be a sort of "holding back", or not clearly showing what one really feels,a cting more unimpressed than you feel.

Moon is in Libra, ruled by Venus, in the term of Venus, but also in the fall of Sun.
Moon genuinely loves Venus, so indeed you would love that man, but I am not sure how strong the physical attraction would be on your part. Or maybe, since the fall position always indicates an exaggeration and things usually are not THAT bad as they seem at first, maybe you would not recognize him as a possible partner immediately, or will need time to warm up to him.

Well, how is it about him?

Venus is in Pisces, in his turned 5th house, a truely romantic guy.
he is in the triplicity of Mars, so he would have very warm feelings towards you as well.

This actually is a pretty positive sign: your main significators are in each other`s triplicity. It is not as strong as rulership (genuine love) or exaltations (being infatuated and besotted), but triplicity still evokes warm affections for each other.

His other significator, his animal nature, Sun in Capricorn.
it`s in the detriment of Moon, which is not a good sign. Maybe your emotional state will not allow him showing his passionate sexual side as he would like to.
But at the same time Sun is in the exaltation of Mars - wow! (and the term of Mars, a minor reception).
But wow, his significator being in exaltation of yours indicates that he is completely head over heels in love and infatuated with you. Your personality as a whole. Since Sun is his animal nature, his sexual attraction to you would be very strong.

So the reception,t hough not totally positive, look very strong (you never get perfection. lol).

posted January 15, 2012 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

But will you even meet?

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posted January 15, 2012 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Wow... that means the same question cannot be cast twice!!

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Oh well, I was exaggerating a bit.
You actually can cast the same question again, since every horary chart has only a certain duration where it is valid, appr. a few months.
You can of course ask the same question again, if some changes have occurred.
But asking the same question over and over within a week, just becuase you didn´t like the first chart, doesn´t work. Subsequent charts will simply be useless, vague and deliver wrong results. as you have already had your answer.

Personally I really dislike that. lol

posted January 15, 2012 12:23 PM            

-Sun has a trine to Mars, but it is separating: so a meeting was in the past

- Venus will eventually opposing Mars, but first of all it is such a long way until there, that all sort of things could happen in between, plus it will be an opposition, indicative of a separation, so it is of no real use here either.

- Moon will be squaring Sun, even though it is still a LONG way to go.

- and before that Moon will be square Mercury, which will possibly prohibit a meeting with Sun. Remember Mercury your significators are so interested in? I think it could indicate your (Ex)boyfriend, and the upcoming square might indicate a further contact with him, which will be "bumpy" and maybe lead to a separation. Though even if after that you contact Sun, the contact will not be what you are wishing for (square).
I also read that the square relates to difficulties and delays, but if the receptions are good the outcome might be good as well; but as I said, Mercury, is in between you and the new man.

- Moon does not contact Venus

Hmm it really seems that the only aspect in the future with a new lover would be the square of Moon to Sun, but Mercury will be in between and probably prohibit.
Interestingly Mercury will ALSO prohibit the aspect between Venus and Mars as it will trine Mars, before Venus can aspect it.
Funnily that trine of Mercury to Mars looks a lot more smoothly than all the other aspects.

So I guess, that probably you will have to really find closure about your Ex, before you can meet someone new.

If howeve Mercury`s intermission just delays the contact with Sun, then the c ontact would happen.

Moon is 16 degrees of Sun.

Moon is in a kardinal sign and kardinal house and is the one applying.

So it could happen within 16 days, maybe earlier (and meeting Mercury maybe within 2 days).

This is the method Hamaker-Zondag proposes in her book.

Frawley has a different one, more complicated, but I will try it out as well.

Here we have to check when the aspect will actually be perfect. Which will be in 17 degrees (Moon has to travel 17 degrees to catch up with Sun).

We need to take the shortest time frame here, because significators in an angular house tend to want to act NOW rather than later, so we would be at 17 days.

BTW I forgot to check the receptions with the squaring aspects. If the receptions are good, a square can signify just a bump in the road, an obstacle, but you will get over it, if you and Mr X really like each other. If the receptions are bad, it probably will not happen.
You will be in each other`s fall, which is not good. Though he will be in your triplicity, and therefpore probably will have more interest in a contact or wanting to connect.

Usually it would be you, as the Moon, going to HIM, as you are the applying one and hav a tiny bit more accidnetal dignity, though both of you are in angular houses and therefore strong. Since his significator is in the 10th house, you probably would meet him at work.

BUT your significator is besieged, which means that it is surrounded by two malefics, SAturn and Mars; even worse both benefics are widest away, this will limit your strength to act and connect.

So all in all I say, it still is too early for a new relationship. You first have to really get rid of your EX from your system. Or at least get some closure.

posted January 16, 2012 12:20 AM            

At work i'll meet him and the meeting was in the past, u say? How long in the past? Hmmmm... i think i vaguely knw who. .

posted January 16, 2012 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
How long in the past? Hmmmm... i think i vaguely knw who. .

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Hmm, the orb is 2 degrees, so it is a timeunit of two probably. Approximately two month or two years.

I would definitely take that with a grain of salt though. lol